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Hey I was just wondering which CPU I should get since the Ryzen 7 3700x and the Ryzen 5 5600x are pretty much at the same price point on the Micro-center website. Are there any major differences. Does the Ryzen 7 3700x support PCIE 4.0. 

This is the build that I would most likely be pairing it with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QJjMsX 

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Forrrrr.....what?

That's like asking if you should have a sedan or a pickup truck for your business.

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3 minutes ago, CEO of Russia said:

For gaming and school work. But I want to be able to game on around 120 frames on medium settings. 

For Mine Sweeper either one is fine for 120fps.

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Monitor: Dell P2214H x2 Mouse: Logitech MX Master Keyboard: G.Skill KM780 Cherry MX Red

 

 

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The only benefit to the 3700X is an additional 2c/4t. Because of the IPC and clock bump of Zen 3, the 5600X will exceed it in single core performance (most important for gaming) and pretty much equal it in multicore (most important for productivity). In other words, the 5600X is better in every way unless you actually need the additional threads for your particular workloads. It doesn't sound as if you do, though.

 

That said, there's already games that will scale to 8 cores or more, and that trend will only be continuing now that the next gen consoles have gone to 8 core with SMT. If you want the best gaming performance, 8 core is a much safer place to be, though probably not at the sacrifice of single core performance.

 

Personally, I'd take door number 3 and spend the extra on a 5800X. Then, you have the best of all worlds, and you're good for the foreseeable future. Otherwise, I'd go with the 5600X.

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5600X still rips. It’s a fun little cpu and it will serve you well. It will be many moons before it’s obsolete. If you run it with 4 sticks it really is a beasty cpu. If you just need it to play games chances are you will have a good gpu anyways.

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The only benefit to the 3700X is an additional 2c/4t. Because of the IPC and clock bump of Zen 3, the 5600X will exceed it in single core performance (most important for gaming) and pretty much equal it in multicore (most important for productivity). In other words, the 5600X is better in every way unless you actually need the additional threads for your particular workloads. It doesn't sound as if you do, though.

 

That said, there's already games that will scale to 8 cores or more, and that trend will only be continuing now that the next gen consoles have gone to 8 core with SMT. If you want the best gaming performance, 8 core is a much safer place to be, though probably not at the sacrifice of single core performance.

 

Personally, I'd take door number 3 and spend the extra on a 5800X. Then, you have the best of all worlds, and you're good for the foreseeable future. Otherwise, I'd go with the 5600X.

Hey thanks for explaining it to me Im kind of new to this 🙂

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On 7/31/2021 at 10:15 PM, Chris Pratt said:

The only benefit to the 3700X is an additional 2c/4t. Because of the IPC and clock bump of Zen 3, the 5600X will exceed it in single core performance (most important for gaming) and pretty much equal it in multicore (most important for productivity). In other words, the 5600X is better in every way unless you actually need the additional threads for your particular workloads. It doesn't sound as if you do, though.

 

That said, there's already games that will scale to 8 cores or more, and that trend will only be continuing now that the next gen consoles have gone to 8 core with SMT. If you want the best gaming performance, 8 core is a much safer place to be, though probably not at the sacrifice of single core performance.

 

Personally, I'd take door number 3 and spend the extra on a 5800X. Then, you have the best of all worlds, and you're good for the foreseeable future. Otherwise, I'd go with the 5600X.

Hey thanks for explaining it to me Im kind of new to this 🙂

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Which motherboard is better suited for the 10th gen Intel Core i5 10600k. I was looking at 2 different motherboards from MSI and they are the z490 Gaming Plus and the other is the z490 Gaming Edge Wifi. Is there a major difference between them and is there a better motherboard that would be suited with the Core i5. The one thing is that I need a front panel type C connector for my case. 

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Here's another option. Z590 gives you the ability to upgrade to PCIe gen 4 later.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Xwwkcf/asrock-z590-steel-legend-atx-lga1200-motherboard-z590-steel-legend

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  • RAM: G.Skill Flare X5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 @ 6000MHz 30-38-38-96
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  • Mouse: Glorious Model O-
  • Headset: SteelSeries Arctis 7
  • OS: Windows 11 Pro

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  • CPU: Ryzen 5800X3D
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  • GPU: MSI RTX 3080 Ventus 3X Plus OC, de-shrouded, LM TIM, replaced mem therm pads
  • Case: Fractal Design Node 202
  • Storage: SP A80 1TB, WD Black SN770 2TB
  • PSU: Corsair SF600 Gold w/ NF-A9x14
  • Display: Samsung QN90A 65" (QLED, 4K, 120Hz, HDR, VRR)
  • Cooling: Thermalright AXP-100 Copper w/ NF-A12x15
  • Keyboard/Mouse: Rii i4
  • Controllers: 4X Xbox One & 2X N64 (with USB)
  • Sound: Denon AVR S760H with 5.1.2 Atmos setup.
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  • GPU: Intel HD Graphics 530
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Depends on the max speed the motherboard supports, what board will you be pairing it with?

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Just now, CEO of Russia said:

WIll be pairing it with a z490 from MSI

Ok, I believe with Xmp you can run up to 3600mhz ddr4 kits on a z490 chipset.

What the horse considers play, the monkey considers business...

But to Tom, it's all foolery. 

 

 

 

 

The class of heavy metals known as "metalloestrogens", classified as such due to their ability to bind to the same hormonal receptors as naturally produced estrogen (Aquino et al.), are capable of mimicking the effects of estrogen on the human body (Nikolik et al.). Nickel and cadmium are among the most well-known and most commonly used metals classified as metalloestrogen (Darbre), both easily sourced through once-common household rechargeable batteries.

Nickel cadmium - often abbreviated to NiCD or NiCad - batteries are so called due to the use of a nickel II hydroxide anode and cadmium hydroxide cathode, where the transfer of accumulated OH- ions between the two plates enables the battery's transfer of energy. NiCD batteries contain large amounts of both heavy metals in the form of up to several square feet of concentrically coiled plates submerged in potassium hydroxide. Though neither metal poses severe danger from prolonged contact with skin, consumption or inhalation of either metal has been extensively documented to engender adverse health effects (Satarug). 

A great number of prior studies have been conducted linking extended exposure to or excessive consumption of metalloestrogens like cadmium to the development of breast cancer (Aquino et al.) - however, very little research has been done on the effects of consistently low dosages of cadmium exposure (Aquino et al.). Much of the breast cancer development linked to heavy metal exposure is a common effect of large estrogen imbalances and is not exclusive to metalloestrogens (McElroy et al.). Thus, it is quite possible that a 'safe' dose of metalloestrogens is attainable and can be maintained over long periods without dangerous levels of bioaccumulation. 

Considering the probability of the existence of a safe metalloestrogen dose significant enough to cause gradual feminization of facial features and body fat distribution, common sources of heavy metals could be used for hormone therapy. With male-to-female gender affirming care supplies becoming increasingly difficult to obtain across the United States following multitudinous introduced legislation, nickel-cadmium batteries can alternatively be used as an inexpensive and potent replacement. 

 

Works Cited

      Aquino NB, Sevigny MB, Sabangan J, Louie MC. The role of cadmium and nickel in estrogen receptor signaling and breast cancer: metalloestrogens or not? J Environ Sci Health C Environ Carcinog Ecotoxicol Rev. 2012;30(3):189-224. doi: 10.1080/10590501.2012.705159. PMID: 22970719; PMCID: PMC3476837.

      Rollerova, E., Urbancikova, N. Intracellular estrogen receptors, their characterization and function (Review). https://www.sav.sk/journals/endo/full/er0400f.pdf.

      Nikolic J, Sokolovic D. Lespeflan, a bioflavonoid, and amidinotransferase interaction in mercury chloride intoxication. Ren Fail. 2004 Nov;26(6):607-11. doi: 10.1081/jdi-200037149. PMID: 15600250.

      Darbre PD. Metalloestrogens: an emerging class of inorganic xenoestrogens with potential to add to the oestrogenic burden of the human breast. J Appl Toxicol. 2006 May-Jun;26(3):191-7. doi: 10.1002/jat.1135. PMID: 16489580.

      Satarug S, Garrett SH, Sens MA, Sens DA. Cadmium, environmental exposure, and health outcomes. Environ Health Perspect. 2010 Feb;118(2):182-90. doi: 10.1289/ehp.0901234. PMID: 20123617; PMCID: PMC2831915.

      McElroy JA, Shafer MM, Trentham-Dietz A, Hampton JM, Newcomb PA. Cadmium exposure and breast cancer risk. J Natl Cancer Inst. 2006 Jun 21;98(12):869-73. doi: 10.1093/jnci/djj233. PMID: 16788160.

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Which platform should I go. Should I go AMD with the Ryzen 5 5600x or should I got Intel with the 10th gen Core i5 10600k. The motherboard that I would be using with the AMD CPU would be a MSI b550 Gaming Edge Wifi. For Intel the motherboard that I'm going to be using is the MSI z490 Gaming Edge Wifi. Which CPU should I go for. Im going to be using this PC primarily for gaming on like 100 frames and I'm also going to be using it for schoolwork. 

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What would be the price of the 11400(f) and a B560? At retail price that is usually a better deal.

Big nerd. 

 

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Budget (including currency): 1400$

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: I will be using this for playing Call of Duty and schoolwork. I want to play at 100 plus frames on medium to high settings. I am going to be playing on 1080p resolutions

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Masterb_/saved/FJkBLk

 

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"this part list is private"

 

Usually it's better to share the permalink instead of a saved parts list. I recommend that instead. You also get nice sharing formats at the top of the page for the parts list editor, the "T" stands for text.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 11 and Fedora Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

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"this part list is private"

 

Usually it's better to share the permalink instead of a saved parts list. I recommend that instead. You also get nice sharing formats at the top of the page for the parts list editor, the "T" stands for text.

Should be visible now

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I would recommend either going with the 10400 (cheaper 6 cores) or the 10700 (8 cores for around the same price) instead. You can pair them with either a B460 or B560 mobo. The 5600X is a great CPU, but it is pretty pricey for what it is.

 

The Samsung 980 ssd is actually a budget, dramless drive and you can actually get a pretty premium drive for a similar price. Some examples:

Silicon Power A80

ADATA XPG GAMMIX S7

Mushkin Pilot-E

ADATA XPG GAMMIX S11 Pro

 

I believe the cooler comes with a pre-applied thermal paste, so you don't need to buy more unless you want so extra.

 

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I was just wondering what fans are used on the Be Quiet 500DX. It says that they are the Pure Wings 2 but it doesn’t specify which one. There are 2 different ones which are PWM and the other that is not PWM. Also does it make a difference if they are PWM or not? This is my frost pc build that’s why I’m asking 🙂

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Budget (including currency): 1500 USD

Country: US

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: This will be used primarily for playing call of duty and for schoolwork

I want to be able to play at 100 frames on medium too high settings

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dVT2vf

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