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For those not online, all the cases are ditching ODDs, odd software is still sold on DvDs.

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I haven't purchased optical media of any kind in over a decade and having nothing in my house/car that would even play it if I did.

 

I had no idea anything at all was only sold on DVD's. 

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5 minutes ago, rickeo said:

I haven't purchased optical media of any kind in over a decade and having nothing in my house/car that would even play it if I did.

 

I had no idea anything at all was only sold on DVD's. 

Softwre stores still sell that way right?

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Just now, Edward78 said:

Softwre stores still sell that way right?

There are software stores?

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Just now, rickeo said:

There are software stores?

Microcenter has software right?

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3 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

Microcenter has software right?

I suppose you’re right. I would think even if you can buy a DVD, there is probably a license key and a digital download URL. 

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you do realize how much cheaper optical media is right. its pennies to get a dvd with software burned. flash drives cost 1.5-2.5$

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13 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

Microcenter has software right?

 

Not really. 

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5 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

you do realize how much cheaper optical media is right. its pennies to get a dvd with software burned. flash drives cost 1.5-2.5$

Ok, just having a Ext. drive sitting around to install something on OD seems unneeded when a case can have a slim ODD with no trouble.

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Ok, just having a Ext. drive sitting around to install something od ODD seems un needed when a case can have a slim ODD with no trouble.

I still don't understand what software you're buying that only comes on DVD's in 2021.

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1 minute ago, Edward78 said:

Ok, just having a Ext. drive sitting around to install something on OD seems unneeded when a case can have a slim ODD with no trouble.

I've got one sitting around for laptops and doing OS installs.
there isn't a lot of reason to update a case. there are plenty that still have optical drives that are easy to find new.

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Apart from old games, old versions of Windows, and my music library (which is functionally just a very cumbersome backup at this point since 99% is already on my computer), I have no need for optical media. Frankly, I don't even need external media, unless you count Windows 10/Linux, but those I downloaded to a flash drive. The last game I bought on a disc was Spore in 2009, over a decade ago. Everything since then has been via downloads.

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27 minutes ago, Edward78 said:

Ok, just having a Ext. drive sitting around to install something on OD seems unneeded when a case can have a slim ODD with no trouble.

 

Adding an ODD to my case would increase it's overall size by about 33% for something I use maybe twice a year.

 

Or I can just pull my USB slim ODD out of a drawer for those two times and chuck it back in the drawer the rest of the time. 

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1 hour ago, Edward78 said:

For those not online, all the cases are ditching ODDs, odd software is still sold on DvDs.

A flash drive costs about 100x more than a optical disk, which itself costs about 100x more than a digital download, and retail of physical commodity items is a slim margin business.

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4 minutes ago, whispous said:

A flash drive costs about 100x more than a optical disk, which itself costs about 100x more than a digital download, and retail of physical commodity items is a slim margin business.

A Flash FOB is also way more durable then Discs are. A Friend of mine ordered a Windows 7 DVD from Newegg and it arrived cracked. This was due to being shipped in a soft package instead of a box.

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1 hour ago, GDRRiley said:

you do realize how much cheaper optical media is right. its pennies to get a dvd with software burned. flash drives cost 1.5-2.5$

Optical media is also read only.  A flash drive doesn't so much have a read only variation, even with some partition fun to make some of the data read only, you can change that since the drive is read/write still.  So your install flash drive could be infected by your system or someone elses systems you loan it to.  Or you could accidently modify data or rewrite it to use it for something else and forget.  It's a pretty bad option for giving out software outside of enterprise situations.  And sure you can even buy full retail Windows copies with a flash drive if you really want?  But yeah for safe software distribution, optical is way safer, cheaper, and more reliable.

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Hmmm, storing flash drives for years on end without power and with dubious conditions (like storage facilities). Seems like a recipe for disaster on the consumer side, not the software vendor. True, some types of flash storage fare better but they don't fare that much better for truly prolonged periods of time.

Optical drives have their place when it comes to durability and this particular use case, just like spinning rust can be useful in your NAS 🙂

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21 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

A Flash FOB is also way more durable then Discs are. A Friend of mine ordered a Windows 7 DVD from Newegg and it arrived cracked. This was due to being shipped in a soft package instead of a box.

Depends.
If proper care is given to the discs they will last a long time, I've got some that's nearly 20 years old and still do fine. Yes, it's easy to damage a disc if you're being clumsy or the sort.
It's the same with flashdrives but I've had more flash drives go bad than discs over time, I still use discs and not having any real problems here over it. Have a re-enforced disc holder/book I use and even still have plenty of blank discs here I can use whenever I need to.
FD's are more convenient but if any corruption takes place, that's it - End of the data if not the drive itself and I've got at least one of each right now that way.

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3 minutes ago, Beerzerker said:

Depends.
If proper care is given to the discs they will last a long time, I've got some that's nearly 20 years old and still do fine. Yes, it's easy to damage a disc if you're being clumsy or the sort.
It's the same with flashdrives but I've had more flash drives go bad than discs over time, I still use discs and not having any real problems here over it. Have a re-enforced disc holder/book I use and even still have plenty of blank discs here I can use whenever I need to.
FD's are more convenient but if any corruption takes place, that's it - End of the data if not the drive itself and I've got at least one of each right now that way.

Microsoft could also have put the Windows 7 Disc in a DVD soft plastic case instead of that type of paper one they use,

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Flashdrives cost far more than optical disks, and purchasing software on physical media is a minority usecase. It really wouldn't make sense for any software company to do this 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MiniDVD these would be a great option to save space. Little mini ODD also.

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