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Hello, I'm looking for Legacy PCI motherboard that has Legacy BIOS, not PCIe, don't get confused, the old PCI, can someone please link me at least a model? I cannot find any when I google it.

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4 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

Hello, I'm looking for Legacy PCI motherboard that has Legacy BIOS, not PCIe, don't get confused, the old PCI, can someone please link me at least a model? I cannot find any when I google it.

To do what with PCI? A lot of (I'd argue "most", at this point) PCI cards no long have driver support.

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What PCI card do you need to plug in?

 

If you google am4 pci there are a good amount of boards out there.

 

Also there are adapters. They should work the same as the board is using a pcie to pci adapter on board anyways.

 

Legacy boot should be on almost all am4 boards too, you many need to enable it in the bios.

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Well, I'm not the one who needs it, its my dad, he's an engineer and wants to upgrade his pc and has lots of PCI cards that will only work with that, he uses linux at max, sometimes not even an os... So no clue as why exactly he's still keeping those old af cards and stuff, but he cannot find one himself and asked me to help

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Are there options with at least like 2 or 3 pci? When I google that it shows me only PCIe news and motherboards with '"LATEST PCIe 4.0 EXTRA FAST" or some shit like that

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2 minutes ago, Lotinsh said:

Well, I'm not the one who needs it, its my dad, he's an engineer and wants to upgrade his pc and has lots of PCI cards that will only work with that, he uses linux at max, sometimes not even an os... So no clue as why exactly he's still keeping those old af cards and stuff, but he cannot find one himself and asked me to help

What version of linux? many older distros don't work well on am4.

 

Why do you need am4?

 

Id just get a older system. If you need pci cards, you probably don't need the latest platform.

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Isn't that like the whole point of getting an upgrade..? Am4 with new ryzen cpu? I don't understand what you mean by buy an older one, he needs a good cpu for work...

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1 minute ago, Lotinsh said:

Well, I'm not the one who needs it, its my dad, he's an engineer and wants to upgrade his pc and has lots of PCI cards that will only work with that, he uses linux at max, sometimes not even an os... So no clue as why exactly he's still keeping those old af cards and stuff, but he cannot find one himself and asked me to help

This gigabyte motherboard maybe

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A320m-hd2

 

Or this....

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Honestly tho, it's probably worth to use older system... And a320 suck if you try to use it with anything more than ryzen 3 or athlon

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But without more information we can't really help. Even if you get the cards to physically connect, my guess is your going to have issues with software. When your getting into that old territory you could have issues with 16bit support and older OS not playing nice with newer hardware/older software not playing nice with newer OS. Remember even Windows 7 will have a hard time running on the latest hardware and that is relativity new in the context of this discussion.  I am not sure about the Linux it really depends on what your using.

 

Not saying it is impossible but if I had to guess it will be harder then plugging in a card and installing some software.

 

Have you thought of buying/keeping older hardware and then  buying a new computer. The old stuff does whatever he is doing with the older cards and the new stuff is everything else.

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That might be, but if it costs that much as in your link, no. thats not an option sadly

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I would recommend sticking to socket AM3+  and FX series processors or Intel platforms that still have PCI natively  ( see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#LGA_1156 - lga1156 and lga1155 sockets seem to be the last with PCI,  and maybe x58 chipset based boards, chipset used on socket 1366)

 

 

AM4 chipsets don't have legacy PCI in the chipset, so any solution is through PCIe to PCI bridge chips, which may or may not be 100% compatible with the PCI cards your father has. You get interrupts issues, latency,  firmware options on pci cards may not be accessible at startup, all kinds of quirks.

 

I still use a FX-8320 processor, with a Gigabyte motherboard that was mid-high end back then, and it's still rock solid, and it has good PCI support. I used to have a Leadtek TV tuner on PCI and it worked perfectly fine.

Performance wise, it would probably be comparable with a quad core AM4 processor like Ryzen 1200 (quad core, no hyperthreading) but consuming a bit more power... so pretty weak, but can't beat when it comes to legacy pci compatibility. 

 

 

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You will find a few am4 boards listed in this thread below which has legacy pci. 

 

 

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