what if amd and nivida decided stopp selling gpus directly and started selling gpus on prebuilt system only to prevent cryptomminer buying all gpus

[Boomwebsearch]

On 6/23/2021 at 10:18 AM, tkitch said:

Do you like building computers?

 

This is how you can no longer build computers, ever.  

 

Integrated graphics on newer processors are getting significantly better over the years, even if something like what the OP mentioned were to happen, you could still build a computer and run it using integrated graphics.

[WhitetailAni]

1 minute ago, Boomwebsearch said:

Integrated graphics on newer processors are getting significantly better over the years, even if something like what the OP mentioned were to happen, you could still build a computer and run it using integrated graphics.

Run? Yes.

Game? Not really.

I mean, if you're fine with 720p60 at ~40 FPS that's fine, but I'm definitely not - I prefer 1080p75. Integrated graphics are NOT going to run Battlefield 4 at 1080p 75 FPS.

[Imapancake15]

On 6/23/2021 at 7:56 AM, aqarwaen29 said:

what if amd and nivida decided stopp selling gpus directly and started selling gpus on prebuilt system only to prevent cryptomminer buying all gpus.

how would u react if amd or nivida made such move and where unable anymore buy only buy new gpu for your computer from shop.

In theory that kinda wouldn't stop crypto miners they would just start buying prebuilts, And there's still Ebay....

[Imapancake15]

NVIDIA and AMD "Sells gpu separately" 

 

[Jarsky]

Even if they wanted to, their shareholders wouldn't allow it. Theyre publicly traded companies, therefor they have a responsibility to maintain margins with their shareholders. 

They could possibly even have a class action taken against them for 'fixing' their shares if they made this move, it would be corporate suicide. So it's never going to happen. 

 

[tkitch]

25 minutes ago, Boomwebsearch said:

Integrated graphics on newer processors are getting significantly better over the years, even if something like what the OP mentioned were to happen, you could still build a computer and run it using integrated graphics.

lets go with "no"

I prefer things that're heavier than netflix to run at over 60fps.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

2 hours ago, tkitch said:

lets go with "no"

I prefer things that're heavier than netflix to run at over 60fps.

You... You do know that there are better gpus than a vega3/uhd750, right? The vega 11 really is pretty compitent.

The best Intel has is as good as a Vega 3, to the point where in gaming, a 3000g is as good as a 11900k.

A 5800g would absolutely trounce it. It may not get a good framerate in y'all's eyecandy games, but in a esports games, like fortnite, csgo, or rocket league (lol can run on the igpu of my 7400 at ~81738726262782fps, that's a non issue here), it's more then compitent.

[tkitch]

3 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

You... You do know that there are better gpus than a vega3/uhd750, right? The vega 11 really is pretty compitent.

The best Intel has is as good as a Vega 3, to the point where in gaming, a 3000g is as good as a 11900k.

A 5800g would absolutely trounce it. It may not get a good framerate in y'all's eyecandy games, but in a esports games, like fortnite, csgo, or rocket league (lol can run on the igpu of my 7400 at ~81738726262782fps, that's a non issue here), it's more then compitent.

First:  The Vega 11 CPU's are basically not available in retail still.  4000's are not for sale, and last I saw 5000G's are also not out yet.

 

Also?  Eff E-Sports games.  I haven't played any of them, and have basically 0 interest in playing any of them, either.

 

Secondly...  If the iGPU get smoked by a 1030?  It doesn't count as useful.

 

 

[Helpful Tech Witch]

5 minutes ago, tkitch said:

Secondly...  If the iGPU get smoked by a 1030?  It doesn't count as useful.

I didn't say it was useful, I'd suggest reading my quote.

11 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

The best Intel has is as good as a Vega 3, to the point where in gaming, a 3000g is as good as a 11900k.

 The CPU that costs 1/11 of the price is just as good

Its known intels igpus are shitty, but there's good Vegas, in the 3200g and 3400g, the Vega 8and 11 respectivly

[tkitch]

6 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

I didn't say it was useful, I'd suggest reading my quote.

 The CPU that costs 1/11 of the price is just as good

Its known intels igpus are shitty, but there's good Vegas, in the 3200g and 3400g, the Vega 8and 11 respectivly

 

The i9-11900k is ~550 retail.

The Ryzen 3200G is about 200$ retail.

 

1/11th?  Really?

 

The i5 11500 (same GPU as i9 11900k) is ~240.  And given the CPU power?  The 11500 is probably the super chip compared to the 3200G.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

1 minute ago, tkitch said:

The i9-11900k is ~550 retail.

The Ryzen 3200G is about 200$ retail.

 

1/11th?  Really?

Omfg. Read.

21 minutes ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

The best Intel has is as good as a Vega 3, to the point where in gaming, a 3000g is as good as a 11900k.

The athlon 3000g retails at 50$

The 11900k retails at 550$

1/11

[Blademaster91]

10 minutes ago, tkitch said:

 

The i9-11900k is ~550 retail.

The Ryzen 3200G is about 200$ retail.

 

1/11th?  Really?

 

The i5 11500 (same GPU as i9 11900k) is ~240.  And given the CPU power?  The 11500 is probably the super chip compared to the 3200G.

A 3200G is $200? I wouldn't recommend paying more than $150 for one.

And a i5 11400 has a faster CPU, but that doesn't matter if you can't buy a dedicated GPU, also comparing a cpu you need a GPU to play any games to one you can do some light gaming with isn't even a comparison IMO.

[tkitch]

Just now, Blademaster91 said:

A 3200G is $200? I wouldn't recommend paying more than $150 for one.

And a i5 11400 has a faster CPU, but that doesn't matter if you can't buy a dedicated GPU, also comparing a cpu you need a GPU to play any games to one you can do some light gaming with isn't even a comparison IMO.

current stupid market, the chip is 200$.

 

And FYI:  The 11400 has a 730 GPU, the 11500+ has the 750 GPU, and the 730 is absolutely slower.

[Moonzy]

This is already happening in Malaysia since forever, u can't buy a GPU standalone, have to buy a full set of system to get a GPU

 

So I bought two whole systems to get GPUs, because it's still profitable to mine

And I get two spare systems yay

[Moonzy]

On 6/24/2021 at 6:53 PM, Amias said:

Everyday I wish f***ing cypto would crash down and price these miners out the market.

Gosh I wish GPU price would crash down too

I sold my crypto near the peak so I'm sitting on all cash waiting to scoop up more GPUs *-*

[Helpful Tech Witch]

14 hours ago, Moonzy said:

waiting to scoop up more GPUs *-*

How many gpus you got now?

[thrasher_565]

On 6/23/2021 at 7:19 AM, tikker said:

 I can't buy one at all at the moment.

you can buy one thoe...

[Moonzy]

9 hours ago, HelpfulTechWizard said:

How many gpus you got now?

21 Ampere, sitting on >$10k from past three months of mining profit so I'm looking to buy ~10 more GPUs when prices comes down, but we'll see, coz idk GPU prices recently

[tikker]

9 hours ago, thrasher_565 said:

you can buy one thoe...

Well yes because now they're back in stock. They weren't when I posted that comment

5 hours ago, Moonzy said:

21 Ampere, sitting on >$10k from past three months of mining profit so I'm looking to buy ~10 more GPUs when prices comes down, but we'll see, coz idk GPU prices recently

Dang. Sadly GPU prices and crypto prices are correlated It's getting awfully tempting now though with dropping prices.