retro game Can i play this on flat screen tv?

[Freakwise]

So simply put i decided to play my collection of ps2 games after couple of years...

The problems is last time i know where my ps2 is stored is like 2yrs ago and my house definitely get reconstruct and rearrange couple times since then

 

Ok so to the main problems can i just "plug and play" my upcoming ps2 (which I'm planning to buy a new one) into flat screen tv with components cables? Is there any tips and tricks i could use?

 

I technically have a crt tv but that was in the living room and was the only tv my family have (i know sound kinda weird) and I don't want to play with interruption of my family member also trying to use the tv

Edited September 8, 2021 by Freakwise

[dilpickle]

As long as you have the same output and input on your PS2 and TV of course it will work.

[NineEyeRon]

My Wii runs over HDMI...

[Mark Kaine]

well, it should work. it will also look terrible, hd tvs aren't made to display this sort of source material even though they'll do it, it just looks awful.

if you have a pc you could  use pcsx2 emulator instead of original console.

[Beerzerker]

17 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

well, it should work. it will also look terrible, hd tvs aren't made to display this sort of source material even though they'll do it, it just looks awful.

if you have a pc you could  use pcsx2 emulator instead of original console.

Yes, the flat screens will reveal the limitations of the console due to the flatscreen's increased resolution.
Only real way to make it look good would be to find an old CRT TV and use that like I do for mine.

Aside from that, if you can get the adapters required it will work.

[Mark Kaine]

2 hours ago, Beerzerker said:

Yes, the flat screens will reveal the limitations of the console due to the flatscreen's increased resolution.
Only real way to make it look good would be to find an old CRT TV and use that like I do for mine.

Aside from that, if you can get the adapters required it will work.

yup, i rather have it look like this with pcsx2 instead of the pixelated mess that would be the original console on a hdtv

 

But yeah, crt tv is also an option that  won't look too bad. 

[Freakwise]

2 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

you have a pc you could  use pcsx2 emulator instead of original console.

I would like to but, The game that i want to run is barely run on my poor laptop, unless I'm want to build my first pc which i plan to but not anywhere near future

[Mark Kaine]

24 minutes ago, Liam danu said:

I would like to but, The game that i want to run is barely run on my poor laptop, unless I'm want to build my first pc which i plan to but not anywhere near future

you could try getting a cheap crt , it'll look miles better than on hdtv, which can be a real issue for ps2  with text and stuff...  

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to Console Gaming

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My friend was running his PS2 with computer monitor some 6-7 years ago. So its will work, just have correct adapters.

[SteveGrabowski0]

16 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

well, it should work. it will also look terrible, hd tvs aren't made to display this sort of source material even though they'll do it, it just looks awful.

if you have a pc you could  use pcsx2 emulator instead of original console.

Disagree, PS2 looks alright with component cables. Awful with composite, but component is decent. Still not as good as it would look on a healthy CRT TV though. Preferably a 19 inch CRT or below though.

[SteveGrabowski0]

17 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

well, it should work. it will also look terrible, hd tvs aren't made to display this sort of source material even though they'll do it, it just looks awful.

if you have a pc you could  use pcsx2 emulator instead of original console.

As for PCSX2, I just can't ever get it looking good and don't see what others see in it. Like in Persona 3 FES I get all kinds of graphical bugs, for instance, the minimap in Tartarus is all screwed up. I tried playing Dragon Quest VIII on the newer 1.6 release and it kind of looked crap, like the 30 fps it ran at looked worse than the 30 fps my real PS2 plays it. I have a Xeon E3-1231v3 (4C/8T Haswell chip at 3.6 GHz), 16GB of DDR3-2400, and GTX 1660 Super, I know a little low end for 2021, but still something that you would think could run PCSX2 well. PCSX2 always looks amazing for the first 5 minutes I turn a game on but I always seem to run into immersion breaking bugs that push me to just play the games on my real PS2 instead. Unlike say Dolphin or Cemu that feel awesome to play for hours at a time.

[Freakwise]

7 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

As for PCSX2, I just can't ever get it looking good and don't see what others see in it. Like in Persona 3 FES I get all kinds of graphical bugs, for instance, the minimap in Tartarus is all screwed up. I tried playing Dragon Quest VIII on the newer 1.6 release and it kind of looked crap, like the 30 fps it ran at looked worse than the 30 fps my real PS2 plays it. I have a Xeon E3-1231v3 (4C/8T Haswell chip at 3.6 GHz), 16GB of DDR3-2400, and GTX 1660 Super, I know a little low end for 2021, but still something that you would think could run PCSX2 well. PCSX2 always looks amazing for the first 5 minutes I turn a game on but I always seem to run into immersion breaking bugs that push me to just play the games on my real PS2 instead. Unlike say Dolphin or Cemu that feel awesome to play for hours at a time.

You could change the render settings you know

[Mark Kaine]

8 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

PCSX2 always looks amazing for the first 5 minutes I turn a game on but I always seem to run into immersion breaking bugs that push me to just play the games on my real PS2 instead. Unlike say Dolphin or Cemu that feel awesome to play for hours at a time.

PCSX2 is really difficult to set up properly due to several factors, like deinterlacing, and other quirks the PS2 had, but they improved it a lot by now, it's still a bit tricky sometimes to find the right settings, which means you usually can't just play without some tinkering , I've noticed a lot of widescreen patches have issues with input lag ,which doesn't bother me much , except fighting games, often it's best to run those games as close to the original as possible, but that looks still better than original console on hdtv imo .

 

Also just learned a lot of games have no deinterlacing patches which helps with the blurriness.

 

i did run into similar issues with other emulators though, mostly glitches and just general incompatibility...

 

Also yeah, it's not your specs, it's that a lot of games need tinkering out of the box, i can run any ps2 game that's compatible just fine on my laptop with i5u and 940mx, at double the resolution minimum (lol)

 

But on my desktop PC some games like Fatal Frame series at 60fps 4k are just gorgeous!

 

42 minutes ago, Liam danu said:

You could change the render settings you know

its definitely a settings thing usually, alone openGL vs Directx can make a huge difference and you need to try it out to know ...

 

 

 

 

[Beerzerker]

23 hours ago, LogicalDrm said:

-> Moved to Console Gaming

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My friend was running his PS2 with computer monitor some 6-7 years ago. So its will work, just have correct adapters.

For a PS2 a CRT TV would be best to use but as said a flatscreen will work, it just won't look as good.
My CRT was to be recycled some time ago but it works perfectly and after thinking about it, I decided to keep it and run it as a dedicated gaming display only TV.
I also like that it's one of the larger ones (21') so it's perfect.

 

Speaking of flatscreens I've been using the monitor on this machine for my PS3 Fat and it's a 4K monitor but still looks good when using it for that.
It switches inputs and resolution automatically like most will and that's how I've got it setup.

 

[SteveGrabowski0]

4 hours ago, Liam danu said:

You could change the render settings you know

I know, I look on the wiki to find the best settings people have tested but it still seems like a mess when when I use them.

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

I know, I look on the wiki to find the best settings people have tested but it still seems like a mess when when I use them.

that info is also often outdated, or simply incorrect.

 

but yeah, im not saying its easy, depending on the games, some will just work, some need tinkering.

 

also are u using 1.5 dev-2406 version?  that one is really good in my experience, loads patches and stuff mostly automatically ,which really usually works fine (doesnt  seem to work for no deinterlacing fixes, those need to be installed manually)

 

im not sure if there's a 1.6 version yet, but otherwise 1.5 dev-2406 gave me the least issues ..  lots of stuff greyed out because it does it automatically , which leaves troubleshooting to only a few options really .

 

 

[Colty]

18 hours ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

As for PCSX2, I just can't ever get it looking good and don't see what others see in it. Like in Persona 3 FES I get all kinds of graphical bugs, for instance, the minimap in Tartarus is all screwed up. I tried playing Dragon Quest VIII on the newer 1.6 release and it kind of looked crap, like the 30 fps it ran at looked worse than the 30 fps my real PS2 plays it. I have a Xeon E3-1231v3 (4C/8T Haswell chip at 3.6 GHz), 16GB of DDR3-2400, and GTX 1660 Super, I know a little low end for 2021, but still something that you would think could run PCSX2 well. PCSX2 always looks amazing for the first 5 minutes I turn a game on but I always seem to run into immersion breaking bugs that push me to just play the games on my real PS2 instead. Unlike say Dolphin or Cemu that feel awesome to play for hours at a time.

I was running PCSX2 on an i3 2120 and a GTX 760 so your specs are more than up for the task. I haven't used it much recently, but I can tell you that you'll have slowdowns, not graphical glitches if your specs aren't up for the task. Cemu is certainly more demanding than PCSX2. For a while, I had to look up specific YouTube videos where people had already figured out  the right settings for each game. Various speedhacks, skipdraw settings, and specific deinlteracing, but I got Crash Twinsanity (a very buggy game on default settings) looking great. 
 

I still think there was a weird bug with the animation keyframes/framerate due to deinterlacing, but it was much better than the PS2 being played on a monitor. A 16:9 CRT can be found (in fact I've got one at my parents that even has HDMI/1080i support), but short of finding a holy grail CRT like I did, and living with the fat pig of a CRT for a handful of games, a PS2 HDMI adapter is a great investment for the $8-12 it costs.

https://www.amazon.com/Converter-Adapter-Monitor-Supports-Display/dp/B07FCYLVVY/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ps2+hdmi&qid=1619465199&sr=8-3

[SteveGrabowski0]

43 minutes ago, Colty said:

I was running PCSX2 on an i3 2120 and a GTX 760 so your specs are more than up for the task. I haven't used it much recently, but I can tell you that you'll have slowdowns, not graphical glitches if your specs aren't up for the task. Cemu is certainly more demanding than PCSX2. For a while, I had to look up specific YouTube videos where people had already figured out  the right settings for each game. Various speedhacks, skipdraw settings, and specific deinlteracing, but I got Crash Twinsanity (a very buggy game on default settings) looking great. 
 

I still think there was a weird bug with the animation keyframes/framerate due to deinterlacing, but it was much better than the PS2 being played on a monitor. A 16:9 CRT can be found (in fact I've got one at my parents that even has HDMI/1080i support), but short of finding a holy grail CRT like I did, and living with the fat pig of a CRT for a handful of games, a PS2 HDMI adapter is a great investment for the $8-12 it costs.

https://www.amazon.com/Converter-Adapter-Monitor-Supports-Display/dp/B07FCYLVVY/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=ps2+hdmi&qid=1619465199&sr=8-3

LOL I just bought a fat pig of a CRT, a 27 inch one, a couple of weeks ago. And quickly realized PS2 looks a lot better on a CRT 19 inches or below.