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Hello every one,

Hope you are doing well,

I need a high-end pc for solidworks that can handle at least 10000 components in assembly, 

I already have a pc and ı am planning for  upgrade, 

Budget is no issue...

 

I HAVE RYZEN 3900X AND RTX 2070 

X570 AORUS ELITE 

 

thank you 

 

 

Budget (including currency): OPEN ( UP TO 10000 USD )

Country: 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: MAINLY SOLIDWORKS 3D MODELING AND RENDERING ( MOST OF THE TIME 3D MODELING AND LARGE ASSEMBLIES STARTING FROM 10000 UP TO COMPOENENTS 50000... 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  I HAVE RYZEN 3900X AND RTX 2070 

 

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31 minutes ago, MOHMAD1315 said:

Hello every one,

Hope you are doing well,

I need a high-end pc for solidworks that can handle at least 10000 components in assembly, 

I already have a pc and ı am planning for  upgrade, 

Budget is no issue...

 

I HAVE RYZEN 3900X AND RTX 2070 

X570 AORUS ELITE 

 

thank you 

 

 

Budget (including currency): OPEN ( UP TO 10000 USD )

Country: 

Games, programs or workloads that it will be used for: MAINLY SOLIDWORKS 3D MODELING AND RENDERING ( MOST OF THE TIME 3D MODELING AND LARGE ASSEMBLIES STARTING FROM 10000 UP TO COMPOENENTS 50000... 

Other details (existing parts lists, whether any peripherals are needed, what you're upgrading from, when you're going to buy, what resolution and refresh rate you want to play at, etc):  I HAVE RYZEN 3900X AND RTX 2070 

 

You could pair your system with 64 to 128 gigs of memory of 3600 Mhz RAM having CL 16-18, like Crucial Ballistix Memory, I'm not sure how much max capacity a single stick can go up to.

 

Idk if you already have the X570 motherboard, but if you're going for costs, you could use a b550 motherboard. For storage you could go for Samsung 970 evo plus 1 tb of m.2 nvme storage and increase later down the line if you need.

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Core count rules for flat out rendering performance but core speed and efficiency are best for assemblies, simulations, loading times etc.

So essentially a Threadripper for rendering, a core i9 X will beat a threadripper in other ways like large assemblies and simulations.

Consumer wise a 5950X or a 10900K will perfrom really well. Intel prob best for assembly work.

Quadro GPUs are the go-to for most professionals due to the amount of VRAM and the fact that they are designed for this purpose.

You'll want no less than 64GB of the fastest RAM you can get hold of.

A fast SSD also helps but not as much as the above

 

Edit: Forgot to mention that lower spec PCs will "handle" 10k assemblies as in you'll be able to work with them but your experience will be better the higher end you go

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you could wait for am5, but it's not guaranteed and it might be coming at the end of this year.. (use your old drives and motherboard for the build below)

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor $1249.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler $89.90 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix MAX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory $399.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix MAX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory $399.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $229.25 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB TUF GAMING Video Card $1500.00
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Best Buy
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $4166.10
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-19 08:40 EST-0500  

you could use threadripper or i9x as @Shabba said

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i9-10900K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor $409.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler $89.90 @ Amazon
Motherboard Gigabyte Z490 AORUS MASTER ATX LGA1200 Motherboard $368.99 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Royal 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL18 Memory $364.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $229.25 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $229.99 @ Adorama
Video Card PNY Quadro RTX 6000 24 GB Video Card $3460.99 @ Amazon
Case Fractal Design Meshify S2 ATX Mid Tower Case $209.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply be quiet! Straight Power 11 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $219.00 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $5583.09
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-19 09:02 EST-0500  

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU Intel Core i9-10980XE 3 GHz 18-Core Processor $1019.99 @ B&H
CPU Cooler NZXT Kraken Z73 73.11 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler $270.17 @ Amazon
Motherboard ASRock X299 Steel Legend ATX LGA2066 Motherboard $343.36 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-4000 CL18 Memory $379.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $229.25 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 860 Evo 2 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive $229.99 @ Adorama
Video Card PNY Quadro RTX 6000 24 GB Video Card $3460.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair 5000D AIRFLOW ATX Mid Tower Case $149.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply be quiet! Straight Power 11 1000 W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $219.00 @ B&H
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $6302.73
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-19 09:10 EST-0500  

 

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https://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/SOLIDWORKS-2020-SP5-AMD-Ryzen-5000-Series-CPU-Performance-2011/ is a good read. The data suggests that for a mixed use system, (modelling & rendering), the 5900X and 5950X are optimal. For larger sets and rendering the 5950X  looks to be the best choice.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor  ($1249.00 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($89.90 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: MSI MEG B550 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($289.99 @ B&H) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR4-3600 CL16 Memory  ($347.95 @ B&H) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($399.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PNY Quadro RTX 6000 24 GB Video Card  ($3460.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design Meshify 2 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($141.98 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($144.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $6524.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-19 09:19 EST-0500

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excuses me for the caps ı didn't notice.

Thank you all for your responses,

I will consider you responses for sure, once I buy them I will give you results 🙂 

 

is it really worth it to buy Quadro rtx 6000 rather than rtx 3090 ?

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On 2/19/2021 at 5:45 AM, Duckster said:

Memory Crucial Ballistix MAX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory $399.99 @ Amazon Memory Crucial Ballistix MAX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory $399.99 @ Amazon

why 4400? lol 
4400 cl19= 8.63636363 first word latency

3600 cl15= 8.333 first word latency

lower = better

 

not to mention infinity fabric can't run 1:1 with a memory speed that high. 

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cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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The Quadro series are meant for workstations using CAD, CGI, general work, etc.

The RTX 30 series, on the other hand, are mainly used for games, especially for ones that have ray tracing.

 

I've gamed on a Quadro on my dad's old PC, and Minecraft runs at quite decent FPS with low to mid settings.

And since you're using this PC build for a workstation, I'd recommend a Quadro RTX 6000.

If you want to game at any point down the line and have very good gaming quality and graphics, then you can use a RTX 30 series card.

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6 hours ago, MOHMAD1315 said:

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is it really worth it to buy Quadro rtx 6000 rather than rtx 3090 ?

 

Given current market conditions it's probably going to come down to what is available.

 

One consideration may be support. As far as I know only workstation gpu like Quadro are officially supported in Solidworks.

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I work in Inventor and have a QuatroM2000 works just fine up to few hundreds parts plus additional software that i use parallel, so i would recommend Quadro over a RTX if you are going the professional path.

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On 3/8/2021 at 1:21 AM, MOHMAD1315 said:

excuses me for the caps ı didn't notice.

Thank you all for your responses,

I will consider you responses for sure, once I buy them I will give you results 🙂 

 

is it really worth it to buy Quadro rtx 6000 rather than rtx 3090 ?

Yes. Solidworks makes heavy use of Quadro-only features like antialiased lines, and there are some features of Solidworks that are only available on a Quadro.

 

It might be worth keeping an eye out for Quadro RTX A6000s as well - these are essentially a Quadro 3090 where the RTX 6000 is essentially a Quadro 2080ti.

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On 2/19/2021 at 8:45 AM, Duckster said:

you could wait for am5, but it's not guaranteed and it might be coming at the end of this year.. (use your old drives and motherboard for the build below)

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor $1249.00 @ Amazon
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-D15S chromax.black 82.51 CFM CPU Cooler $89.90 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix MAX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory $399.99 @ Amazon
Memory Crucial Ballistix MAX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-4400 CL19 Memory $399.99 @ Amazon
Storage Samsung 980 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $229.25 @ Amazon
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $52.99 @ Newegg
Video Card Asus GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB TUF GAMING Video Card $1500.00
Case Corsair 4000D Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case $94.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $149.99 @ Best Buy
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $4166.10
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-02-19 08:40 EST-0500  

you could use threadripper or i9x as @Shabba said

that expensive and theres an unreliable hard drive lol

my signiture was cool, but its a lie now

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On 3/8/2021 at 1:35 AM, Jayzer said:

The Quadro series are meant for workstations using CAD, CGI, general work, etc.

The RTX 30 series, on the other hand, are mainly used for games, especially for ones that have ray tracing.

 

I've gamed on a Quadro on my dad's old PC, and Minecraft runs at quite decent FPS with low to mid settings.

And since you're using this PC build for a workstation, I'd recommend a Quadro RTX 6000.

If you want to game at any point down the line and have very good gaming quality and graphics, then you can use a RTX 30 series card.

i would say, rtx 3090 is very good for what he wants to do. Every other 3000 series card wont be good for workstations.

my signiture was cool, but its a lie now

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On 3/9/2021 at 5:47 PM, King of Memes said:

that expensive and theres an unreliable hard drive lol

because GB/$ was the focus

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2 hours ago, Rhebucks said:

because GB/$ was the focus

but still, getting two of these isnt a lot more expensive, but much better 

my signiture was cool, but its a lie now

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