new installed evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming causing random restarts

[JayL]

Hello ,

 

I just recently bought the evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming gpu and installed it. after 3 days of use, my PC started to restart out of no where, sometimes just browsing youtube and sometimes just turn on to play some steam gaming and browse the internet. 

my setup.

i7- 6700k @4.00 GHZ

gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 7 with bios version F22m ( latest)

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0

samsung 970 evo NVMe m.2 1tb

Corsair RMx850 ( from 2016)

evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming 

 

 

I've tried all the troubleshooting of using DDU to reinstall drivers clean and putting the nvidia control panel to debug mode. Monitor the PSU voltage and it fluctuates around 12.096v - 12.168v. 

 

I had the msi GTX 1070 before and it was working perfectly fine with no problems for over 4 years. This random reboot been happening for about 1 week since installation. I've swap back to my gtx 1070 and so far no random reboots for the pass 3 days. I don't have another setup to test the evga rtx 3080 and don't have another psu unless I buy another one. I've attach the screenshot of the System Event when the restart happens. Can anyone help with this problem??

 

 

[Falkentyne]

42 minutes ago, JayL said:

Hello ,

 

I just recently bought the evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming gpu and installed it. after 3 days of use, my PC started to restart out of no where, sometimes just browsing youtube and sometimes just turn on to play some steam gaming and browse the internet. 

my setup.

i7- 6700k @4.00 GHZ

gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 7 with bios version F22m ( latest)

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0

samsung 970 evo NVMe m.2 1tb

Corsair RMx850 ( from 2016)

evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming 

 

 

I've tried all the troubleshooting of using DDU to reinstall drivers clean and putting the nvidia control panel to debug mode. Monitor the PSU voltage and it fluctuates around 12.096v - 12.168v. 

 

I had the msi GTX 1070 before and it was working perfectly fine with no problems for over 4 years. This random reboot been happening for about 1 week since installation. I've swap back to my gtx 1070 and so far no random reboots for the pass 3 days. I don't have another setup to test the evga rtx 3080 and don't have another psu unless I buy another one. I've attach the screenshot of the System Event when the restart happens. Can anyone help with this problem??

 

 

 

Use Display Driver Uninstaller in safe mode, and then reboot (with internet unplugged) and install the driver 456.98 Hotfix driver.

See if that fixes your problem.  Of course you should have it downloaded before going to safe mode to run Display Driver Uninstaller.

[JayL]

16 hours ago, Falkentyne said:

 

Use Display Driver Uninstaller in safe mode, and then reboot (with internet unplugged) and install the driver 456.98 Hotfix driver.

See if that fixes your problem.  Of course you should have it downloaded before going to safe mode to run Display Driver Uninstaller.

I've recently updated to the 460.89 drivers. Shouldn't the newer drivers contain this fix also?

 

[artificialint3000]

i had this same issue. i replaced my power supply with a Be quite! 1000 watt platinum and never had the issue again previously i was using an 850 watt evga gs power supply. ive read quite a few other places that many had the same issue

[Falkentyne]

1 hour ago, JayL said:

I've recently updated to the 460.89 drivers. Shouldn't the newer drivers contain this fix also?

 

Unknown.  Nvidia drivers sometimes get worse.  Try 456.98 first.  A lot of people are crashing on the latest drivers.

[jtraccsy]

Sounds like PSU issue.

[Mark Kaine]

19 hours ago, JayL said:

Hello ,

 

I just recently bought the evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming gpu and installed it. after 3 days of use, my PC started to restart out of no where, sometimes just browsing youtube and sometimes just turn on to play some steam gaming and browse the internet. 

my setup.

i7- 6700k @4.00 GHZ

gigabyte Z170X-Gaming 7 with bios version F22m ( latest)

CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel XMP 2.0

samsung 970 evo NVMe m.2 1tb

Corsair RMx850 ( from 2016)

evga rtx 3080 ftw3 ultra gaming 

 

 

I've tried all the troubleshooting of using DDU to reinstall drivers clean and putting the nvidia control panel to debug mode. Monitor the PSU voltage and it fluctuates around 12.096v - 12.168v. 

 

I had the msi GTX 1070 before and it was working perfectly fine with no problems for over 4 years. This random reboot been happening for about 1 week since installation. I've swap back to my gtx 1070 and so far no random reboots for the pass 3 days. I don't have another setup to test the evga rtx 3080 and don't have another psu unless I buy another one. I've attach the screenshot of the System Event when the restart happens. Can anyone help with this problem??

 

 

it's a PSU issue... ya'll are falling for the recommended PSU thing (which is frankly reckless at this point from whoever says it, and that includes manufacturers...) 

 

1000W high quality PSU and the issues will vanish (most likely) 

[m9x3mos]

I run a 3090 off a 850w no issues. Make sure you are not using the pig tails on the pcie power cables. Run one from the power supply for each of the connectors on the card. 

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, m9x3mos said:

I run a 3090 off a 850w no issues. Make sure you are not using the pig tails on the pcie power cables. Run one from the power supply for each of the connectors on the card. 

Not all GPUs and PSUs are equal... maybe you have a really good PSU, maybe you just lucked out, that doesnt change that a 1000w supply is basically recommended at this point (funny all the reviewers like Linus, GN, etc are using one...) and that *if* you had issues the recommendation would be the same, get a better PSU, best with around 1000w to be on the safe side. 

 

The days you can get by with an underpowered, low quality PSU are over as efficiency wasn't exactly a concern for Nvidia this time around (they're basically scrambling to get their 2x over previous generation, which will likely only get worse going forward) 

[m9x3mos]

20 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

Not all GPUs and PSUs are equal... maybe you have a really good PSU, maybe you just lucked out, that doesnt change that a 1000w supply is basically recommended at this point (funny all the reviewers like Linus, GN, etc are using one...) and that *if* you had issues the recommendation would be the same, get a better PSU, best with around 1000w to be on the safe side. 

 

The days you can get by with an underpowered, low quality PSU are over as efficiency wasn't exactly a concern for Nvidia this time around (they're basically scrambling to get their 2x over previous generation, which will likely only get worse going forward) 

You are right. Not all components are created equal. But they do have to follow a specification. 

Reviewers also run them since they are practically given them and have them laying around Jay has even stated that outright. During a recent video, even just pointed out the pig tail issue. 

They also over clock the snot out of the cards at times. 

From reviews at stock this card doesn't pull more than 500w peak. It is possible that it is bad but I highly doubt that it is under powered. 

Still think it is more likely a cable issue, bad power supply, or bad card. 

[JayL]

Since my PSU was purchase in 2016 that's what I was thinking of doing. I did start RMA for the psu RMx850. I will replace it anyways since I'm going to start a new build very soon, which 1000w psu should would be better quality -  corsair ax1000 or hxi1000 ?

 

Thanks for the help.

[xg32]

6 minutes ago, JayL said:

Since my PSU was purchase in 2016 that's what I was thinking of doing. I did start RMA for the psu RMx850. I will replace it anyways since I'm going to start a new build very soon, which 1000w psu should would be better quality -  corsair ax1000 or hxi1000 ?

 

Thanks for the help.

before you switch psus, try looking up some undervolting guide on youtube, you lose like 1% performance while the powerdraw goes down by 25%. If you still wanna oc, you'll likely need a power supply, the spikes in ampere gpus are crazy (tripping ovp in the older/weaker units), look for single rails on the psu tier list.

[JayL]

Thanks for the help everyone. I ended up getting a new psu corsair axi16000 end though I would've prefer a 1000w or 1200w. The cost of the 1000w and 1200w is the same as me picking up a 1600w in person. These prices are crazy and no stock on them so only choice was 1600w in stock near me. Will see how it runs for the next few days but I will still rma my old RMx850 since it's an older model. Hope they give me a newer model or maybe even up a tier if can I pay the difference.

 

Thanks.

 

[Mister Woof]

On 12/20/2020 at 9:41 AM, Mark Kaine said:

it's a PSU issue... ya'll are falling for the recommended PSU thing (which is frankly reckless at this point from whoever says it, and that includes manufacturers...) 

 

1000W high quality PSU and the issues will vanish (most likely) 

I'm on what LTT now (i say now, because it used to be an A+ tier) considers a shit-tier PSU because of some alleged protection fault, Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850W.

 

I have a 3080 with a +10% power limit (pulls as much as 360w), and an overclocked 8700k at 5ghz/1.375v. Also using two individual PCIE cables.

 

Runs fine. Been playing CP2077 all day/every day since launch at full GPU and nearly full CPU load.

 

1000w isn't necessary IMO as a stand-alone spec. Obviously the quality is what's important.

[xg32]

5 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I'm on what LTT considers a shit-tier PSU because of some alleged protection fault, Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850W.

 

I have a 3080 with a +10% power limit (pulls as much as 360w), and an overclocked 8700k at 5ghz/1.375v. Also using two individual PCIE cables.

 

Runs fine. Been playing CP2077 all day/every day since launch at full GPU and nearly full CPU load.

 

1000w isn't necessary IMO as a stand-alone spec. Obviously the quality is what's important.

i used a focus 850 before, works fine, far from what i'd consider shit-tier, the older corsair psus however... still looking around for a psu for zen 3 build, saw a p2 for 250usd yesterday and it immediately sold out XD

[Mark Kaine]

49 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I'm on what LTT now (i say now, because it used to be an A+ tier) considers a shit-tier PSU because of some alleged protection fault, Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850W.

 

I have a 3080 with a +10% power limit (pulls as much as 360w), and an overclocked 8700k at 5ghz/1.375v. Also using two individual PCIE cables.

 

Runs fine. Been playing CP2077 all day/every day since launch at full GPU and nearly full CPU load.

 

1000w isn't necessary IMO as a stand-alone spec. Obviously the quality is what's important.

we had people with this psu and issues with 3xxx cards tho... so basically it boils down to if you have issues that sound like it's likely psu, change it. : P

 

And yeah, 1000 w isn't *necessary* but it can't hurt either, 850, 900... prices are all over the place anyway. 

 

And yeah, idk about those tier lists... seems a lot is based on prejudice and anecdotal evidence. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

Personally I don't care about "tier lists" at all, they're usually wrong and I'll likely choose low tier character (I mean before fighting games were killed by an unholy Namco + zoomers corporation that is lol) 

[JayL]

49 minutes ago, xg32 said:

i used a focus 850 before, works fine, far from what i'd consider shit-tier, the older corsair psus however... still looking around for a psu for zen 3 build, saw a p2 for 250usd yesterday and it immediately sold out XD

I was considering the focus 850 too but I rather play safe and plus I'm going to build the a new setup for the amd 5950x. Soon as corsair sends me back my newer rmx850 hopefully, I will put back my gtx 1070 and I will give my old build to my kids to toy around with. Transfer my new psu and 3080 over to new build.

 

[artificialint3000]

On 12/20/2020 at 12:41 PM, Mark Kaine said:

it's a PSU issue... ya'll are falling for the recommended PSU thing (which is frankly reckless at this point from whoever says it, and that includes manufacturers...) 

 

1000W high quality PSU and the issues will vanish (most likely) 

thats what i did and it fixed the issue

[Mark Kaine]

3 minutes ago, artificialint3000 said:

thats what i did and it fixed the issue

 like I said you can't even trust the manufacturer recommendations anymore nowadays lol. 

[Mister Woof]

35 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

we had people with this psu and issues with 3xxx cards tho... so basically it boils down to if you have issues that sound like it's likely psu, change it. : P

 

And yeah, 1000 w isn't *necessary* but it can't hurt either, 850, 900... prices are all over the place anyway. 

 

And yeah, idk about those tier lists... seems a lot is based on prejudice and anecdotal evidence. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

 

Personally I don't care about "tier lists" at all, they're usually wrong and I'll likely choose low tier character (I mean before fighting games were killed by an unholy Namco + zoomers corporation that is lol) 

 

Yeah, prices are fucked. It actually  makes more sense to buy the higher end stuff because at least you're getting something for your money vs paying extra for junk.

 

Mine was only $90 back in 2017 LOL

[JayL]

Thanks again for all the help but after 2 days of running the evga ftw3 ultra 3080 it rebooted on me "RAGE!!!!"  after replacing the psu. I gave up and camp MicroCenter and exchanged it for the Msi SuprimX 3080 today and way better temps and quiet.

 

 

[Blai5e]

3 hours ago, JayL said:

Thanks again for all the help but after 2 days of running the evga ftw3 ultra 3080 it rebooted on me "RAGE!!!!"  after replacing the psu. I gave up and camp MicroCenter and exchanged it for the Msi SuprimX 3080 today and way better temps and quiet.

 

 

The 30-series has certainly been responsible for shaking a few cobwebs in people's rigs...

 

Sometimes, you can run into trouble with wild transients in power which can occur in something as innocuous as a browser. To attempt to prove this, open the NCP (NVIDIA Control Panel) and in the ""Manage 3D Settings", change "Power Management Mode" from "Normal" to "Prefer Maximum Performance". Your GPU won't downclock (you'll be stuck at maximum clocks) but give it a try and see how it goes. The transients will be less harsh if you are higher up the power draw already (at the expense of costing a few extra cents per hour on the power bill).

 

Another thing you might want to try is to set your Corsair AXI 1600W PSU to "Single Rail OCP" rather than "Multi Rail OCP" (do this from ICUE's "Settings" page under the PSU). You might be tripping the PSU when running with the Multi Rail OCP option. Luckily, I don't suffer your problems using a Corsair AXI 1200W and an EVGA 3090 FTW3 Ultra but I do have my PSU set to "Single Rail OCP".

[Rykane]

I've been using a Corsair RM1000x PSU and I've been getting the same issue of random restarts, Don't assume a 1000w PSU will magically fix the issue. I've tried multiple things as stated in my thread that I've made here and I've still been having issues. Tried replacing many parts yet it still happens.

[KoreyCreative]

On 12/20/2020 at 1:42 PM, JayL said:

Since my PSU was purchase in 2016 that's what I was thinking of doing. I did start RMA for the psu RMx850. I will replace it anyways since I'm going to start a new build very soon, which 1000w psu should would be better quality -  corsair ax1000 or hxi1000 ?

 

Thanks for the help.

Seasonic

I seem to have confused some un-aware people with my post of just the words of "Seasonic", my bad. The "corsair ax1000" is what I would pick being it's a Seasonic PSU just with corsair branding. I'm not sure about the hxi1000.

I've had my plat Seasonic 660 XP2 from 2013 without one issue, not one, plus the support from the company is downright amazing++. If a PSU has a 10 year warranty, good chance it's from Seasonic.

Still think it's funny someone called me a fanboy because I said Seasonic lol.

[Mark Kaine]

but not focus Gold... something something "platinum"... (those cost about as much as a house, but only the best for new shiny, inefficient gpu ;))  sadly