Food & Cooking

[Tristerin]

Just now, whm1974 said:

Whole Wheat bread and Brown Mustard isn't that expensive. Well for that matter package sliced turkey breast cost around the same as bologna.

 

Wait, which Decade was this?

Late 90's when I emancipated.

 

The cheapest packaged sliced meat was more expensive than bologna.  Sometimes one could splurge on such niceties but not always lol

 

As for topic at hand, no, no thank you I dont want bologna - I eat healthy 80% of the time, when I eat unhealthy no way Im choosing bologna LOL

[whm1974]

7 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Late 90's when I emancipated.

 

The cheapest packaged sliced meat was more expensive than bologna.  Sometimes one could splurge on such niceties but not always lol

 

As for topic at hand, no, no thank you I dont want bologna - I eat healthy 80% of the time, when I eat unhealthy no way Im choosing bologna LOL

Where did you shopped for food? I went to Audi's or sometimes Shop n Save stores at the time. 

[Blademaster91]

31 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

I brought and eaten dollar store canned meats before, but I tend to go for something like Underwood instead of the really cheap stuff.

Yeah I'd look for a known brand, the Underwood corned beed or deviled ham is good in a sandwich.

[whm1974]

4 hours ago, Blademaster91 said:

Yeah I'd look for a known brand, the Underwood corned beed or deviled ham is good in a sandwich.

don't get me started on Amour Treet... I once tried to eat a small can of their potted meat and the dog wouldn't eat it. SPAM potted meat is way better. That comes in seasonings.

[SpikeSpiegel]

If you're on KETO or a low carb diet.  Use this bread,

 

The Best Lunch Meat To Buy At The Grocery Store...And What To Avoid!

 

This guy knows what he talks about meats/veggies/breads/etc.

[whm1974]

2 minutes ago, CalintzJerevinan said:

If you're on KETO or a low carb diet.  Use this bread,

Every time I read about the Keto diet , I keep thinking Fad Dieting...

[whm1974]

So reading about Tsampa which is Barley Roasted Flour from Tibet. But I am wondering if the word is referring to the flour itself or food made from the flour, tea, and yak butter? Maybe both? Yes the Tibetan Barley is grown in the US, abet in small numbers...

 

The link from NPR does describe Tsampa and the reason many Tibetans left Tibet and escape to other Lands.

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/06/23/730718588/tsampa-the-tibetan-cereal-that-helped-spark-an-uprising

 

You can buy the flour and Energy Bars here:

http://www.tibetantsampa.com/

 

While I could make Porridge with this instead of oatmeal, I would like to make the Balls themselves. Has anyone eaten this before?

[Zando_]

Just now, whm1974 said:

But I am wondering if the word is referring to the flour itself or food made from the flour, tea, and yak butter? Maybe both?

It's the flour. Less than one second on Google gives you the Wikipedia page as the first result:

 

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsampa

Relevant quote: "It is glutinous meal made from roasted flour, usually barley flour and sometimes also wheat flour. It is usually mixed with the salty Tibetan butter tea. It is also eaten in Turkestan and Mongolia, where it is known as zamba."
 

Aaaand checking back in uh the article you linked flat out says it too: "The word tsampa in Tibetan usually refers to ground-up, roasted barley flour, although occasionally the flour comes from wheat or another grain."

[whm1974]

9 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

It's the flour. Less than one second on Google gives you the Wikipedia page as the first result:

 

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tsampa

Relevant quote: "It is glutinous meal made from roasted flour, usually barley flour and sometimes also wheat flour. It is usually mixed with the salty Tibetan butter tea. It is also eaten in Turkestan and Mongolia, where it is known as zamba."
 

Aaaand checking back in uh the article you linked flat out says it too: "The word tsampa in Tibetan usually refers to ground-up, roasted barley flour, although occasionally the flour comes from wheat or another grain."

Thank you for clearing this up for me. At first I was looking for if the Tibetan Barley itself was being grown in the US. According to Wikipedia it also called Highland Barley.

 

When I first read about the way people in Tibet consume the Barley Flour, all that was mentioned was, that it was toasted, mixed with tea, yak butter, and salt, then rolled into a ball and eaten. I was under the impression that it is the main stable of Tibet, included with every meal.

 

I do enjoy eating Ethnic Foods, and to my surprise, I yet to find a dish I didn't like.

 

 

[whm1974]

I just found this on how to prepare the "ball" from Tsampa flour.

[whm1974]

3 hours ago, whm1974 said:

I just found this on how to prepare the "ball" from Tsampa flour.

Oops forgot to including the Link: 

http://tsampa.org/tibetan/tsampa/theory_and_practice/

 

[whm1974]

The easiest way I'm thinking of is to simply buy a bag of Hulless AKA Naked Barley. Roast it myself, but how will I grind it into flour?

[whm1974]

1 minute ago, DanielPe said:

I am wondering if the word is referring to the flour itself or food made from the flour

It is the flour made from the Roasted Grain. Not sure but the "Ball" made with the flour and Butter and Salt Tea in Tibet is called "Pa" or "Just Pa".

[whm1974]

This video here shows how to prepare the Tsampa Pa:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQfvR731p04

 

Of course I'll skip the sugar since I do have Type II Diabetes.

[whm1974]

So I just learned about this Tree and what Nature Provides from this video:

I might have heard about the Nuts back when I was a kid, but don't recall. One of the hardest Nuts to crack. Never heard of the drink from the Bark however, or the Syrup. Haven't tried these before.

 

You can buy the Syrup here if you want to try:

https://vermontshagbarksyrup.com/store

 

Never brought from this Vendor before, so...

[whm1974]

There is or was, a Dish that the US Military served up for breakfast especially in Field Mess Halls. It was often referred to as "Shit On a Shingle" or "Save Our  Stomachs". This was due to being Cheap, Easy and Quick to Prepare, and the ingredients widely available.

 

All the Entree was is Chipped Beef, Toast, and Milk Gravy. Nearly the same thing as "Biscuits and Gravy".

 

Is Chipped Beef available anywhere in the US? I never even seen this food item at sold anywhere.  

[Mister Woof]

https://www.walmart.com/grocery/ip/Armour-Star-Sliced-Dried-Beef-Jarred-Meat-2-25-OZ/10290797?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=0&wl13=2464&adid=22222222421&wmlspartner=wmtlabs&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=m&wl3=501107745824&wl4=aud-359046954207:pla-293946777986&wl5=9032518&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=120643079&wl11=local&wl12=10290797&wl13=2464&veh=sem_LIA&gclid=Cj0KCQjwutaCBhDfARIsAJHWnHutaqPBZYxq3b_6AL84nyCx2gA8pbN5fSDuA8DsvMTp82M_HijQ34oaAqZfEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

[whm1974]

Amazon has the same Brand, but one is Dried beef, another is Chipped Beef. So that to me imply two very different products of beef.

[whm1974]

Here is a video of a Young Woman who calls this "Hard Times" foods:

 

Like I said, this is cheap to make, Ingredients are easy and widely available. Can be prepared in large amounts. 

 

Both the above and "Biscuits and Gravy" are improved with Onions and Mushrooms cooked in the gravy. 

 

[airborne spoon]

We called it SoS (Shit on a Shingle) when i was a private but now in the kinder gentler Army its just beef gravy. I'm a cook have been for 18 years, and the most annoying thing about the gravy every morning is that everyone makes it slightly different.

I've attached the recipe card for your reference, but we all use this one only for inspection days because its not very good. All other days its jungle cooking and made to the taste of the Soldier making it unless getting trained on the product. I always make sure when a Soldier is learning how to make something they make it 100% to the standard of the recipe the first time or two so they know what it is supposed to taste and look like and then can experiment from that to make a better product, (as long as the shift leader approves).

There is too many onions so i cut that back, the Worcestershire sauce is where the flavor comes from, also i add garlic, and about a pound of butter, and never never never drain the fat.

So yes "chipped beef" is available every morning in dining facilities across all branches of the US military, its just called beef gravy or creamed beef

if you want it in a civilian format, look at mom and pops diners they will usually have biscuits and gravy listed for breakfast.

 

 

 

[whm1974]

How come we don't see more baked goods made with Barley? Most of that grain in the US goes to Animal Feed. Well the higher Protein kind does. But I'm thinking since it is one of the First Crops of Mankind and was very commonly consumed. More then Wheat actually , since the Plant is easier to grow and in more Areas.

 

Anyway I was enjoying Pearled Barley mixed with Brown Rice and Lentils with Meat added. Until Shop n Save shut down where I live. Also have eaten it with Onion and Seasonings as well.

[dalekphalm]

I can only assume that people prefer the taste of Wheat. Or there is some socio-economic pressure that makes it more valuable for farmers to grow Wheat over Barley.

 

I'm certain I've had Barley before, since it's in a lot of pre-made foods/snacks/cereals/multi-grain breads, etc. But I'm not certain I've ever had something made with Barley as the main ingredient.

[whm1974]

4 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

I can only assume that people prefer the taste of Wheat. Or there is some socio-economic pressure that makes it more valuable for farmers to grow Wheat over Barley.

 

I'm certain I've had Barley before, since it's in a lot of pre-made foods/snacks/cereals/multi-grain breads, etc. But I'm not certain I've ever had something made with Barley as the main ingredient.

Well Barley was widely eaten until fairly recently in Human History.

[whm1974]

So I just found out that The Coca Cola Company still has Coca Leaves as an Ingredient in their most popular drink. But the Leaves are "Spent". There is an another Company that imports the leaves and extracts the Cocaine from them and sells the left overs to Coca Cola from their Soda. There are Valid Medicinal uses for the Drug itself. It is only used in Hospitals for some Surgeries.

https://www.technology.org/2019/03/15/coca-cola-does-not-contain-cocaine-anymore-but-there-still-is-a-connection-to-the-production-of-the-drug/

 

So a question I have to ask is, Can We buy a small amount of the Spent Leaves ourselves? The use I can think of for it is for use in a herbal tea mix for flavoring...

[BuckGup]

Coca Cola has very deep money ties in many countries economies and politics. You can't play the same game as the big boys. Aka the DEA is gonna bust down your door unless you have enough money.