Is this considered cheating?

[StrawberryShortCakes]

My sister just got her driver's license...... she got it driving her best friend's Toyota iQ automatic ,  

Isn't that considered cheating? 

How can anyone fail parallel parking that car? It's freaking tiny. 

It's like an unfair advantage. 

 

[Spotty]

6 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

How can anyone fail parallel parking that car? It's freaking tiny.

You'd be surprised how bad some people are at parallel parking.

 

I wouldn't worry about it. Be nice to your sister. You might want her to drive you somewhere.

[StrawberryShortCakes]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

You'd be surprised how bad some people are at parallel parking.

 

I wouldn't worry about it. Be nice to your sister. You might want her to drive you somewhere.

If that's true, I'm getting my license in her aygo in 3yrs and I'm asking her to teach me to drive in it too. 

Tiny cars are like game hacks lol. 

[-rascal-]

20 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

My sister just got her driver's license...... she got it driving her best friend's Toyota iQ automatic ,  

Isn't that considered cheating? 

How can anyone fail parallel parking that car? It's freaking tiny. 

It's like an unfair advantage. 

 

 

With all the tech in cars these days, that's pretty normal.

 

Then again, I've seen people STILL changes lanes INTO people, even though the car's sensors / warnings are bleeping at them.

So...you buy the car with the extra options...but don't use...them...?

 

I can turn on the all the tech on my car (e.g. adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, lane departure assist, etc) ... and the car can basically drive 75% of itself.

Basically no foot on the pedals, and touch the steering wheel every like 30 seconds...

Actual human intervention when changing lanes or turning LOL

 

Maybe I'm already "Old Gen" ... habit of using the mirrors when reverse parking / parallel parking, even with cameras and/or sensors.

(Then again, I've got like $600 per/wheel forged wheels on my car )

[StrawberryShortCakes]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

 

With all the tech in cars these days, that's pretty normal.

 

I can turn on the all the tech on my car (e.g. adaptive cruise control, lane keep assist, lane departure assist, etc) ... and the car can basically drive 75% of itself.

Basically no foot on the pedals, and touch the steering wheel every like 30 seconds...

Actually human intervention when changing lanes or turning LOL

 

Maybe I'm already "Old Gen" ... habit of using the mirrors when reverse parking / parallel parking, even with cameras and/or sensors.

(Then again, I've got like $600 per/wheel forged wheels on my car )

$600 a wheel..... Where do you live I've got to see those wheels, they better be made of vibranium or adimantium. My sister's car is a second hand S$10,000 aygo

[Guest]

The course director would have used an appropriate to test parallel parking I would hope. Mine didn’t so I passed anyway

[StrawberryShortCakes]

1 hour ago, RorzNZ said:

The course director would have used an appropriate to test parallel parking I would hope. Mine didn’t so I passed anyway

He did shrink the spacing by a little but it was still way easy. 

[WereCatf]

2 hours ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

Isn't that considered cheating?

Entirely depends on where one lives. Here in Finland, if you e.g. get your driver's license by driving an automatic transmission, you don't have a license to drive manual and will need to go back to extend your license before you're legally allowed to drive such. This is to say, the easier the car you're driving to learn with, the more restricted the license you get and need to go back to the drawing-board, if you ever want to change to a less easy car -- IMHO, a very good and sensible law.

[Sauron]

3 hours ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

My sister just got her driver's license...... she got it driving her best friend's Toyota iQ automatic ,  

Isn't that considered cheating? 

How can anyone fail parallel parking that car? It's freaking tiny. 

It's like an unfair advantage. 

 

Every driving test I've see was with a small car, which is also what someone who just got a driver's license is likely to use. A car is a car, larger cars are a bit harder to park but if you get the mechanism it's not a major difference.

[Loote]

Just to be clear, your point is about the car being small, not automatic? In my case the requirement is to parallel park in the space that's 1.5x car's length, regardless if it's 3m or 6m long, this is not cheating and if you think she had more than 1.5x her car's size, it'd be examiner's choice.

From my experience bigger cars I drove were relatively more agile, to make up for the size they were able to turn the wheels further, so it's conceivable that a smaller car will be tougher to park in a space 1.5 its size.

[StrawberryShortCakes]

15 minutes ago, comander said:

I'm still trying to figure out how my girlfriend passed the parallel parking test. 

She wants a smaller car at this time for parking reasons. 

Same as my sister and because she chosen the aygo my older brother would not touch that car and I quote "I wouldn't be caught dead 5 feet from that girly car". 

[Zusafek]

6 hours ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

My sister just got her driver's license...... she got it driving her best friend's Toyota iQ automatic ,  

Isn't that considered cheating? 

How can anyone fail parallel parking that car? It's freaking tiny. 

It's like an unfair advantage. 

 

I've seen people fail parallel parking with a self parking car. I've seen people unable to back out of a parking spot. I've watched someone drive right into the side of my semi trailer while I was parked.....in a dock....getting unloaded. 

 

As for if it's cheating to play the system, then call me a cheater. When I went in years ago to get my motorcycle endorsement on my license, I borrowed a friend's 280cc highway legal scooter instead of using my heavy as hell Honda Goldwing. 

[Levent]

There is one hell of an sibling rivalry going on here. Feel free to take your drivers license test in a long wheelbase audi a8 if you feel like there is an unfair advantage.

[StrawberryShortCakes]

9 minutes ago, Zusafek said:

I've seen people fail parallel parking with a self parking car. I've seen people unable to back out of a parking spot. I've watched someone drive right into the side of my semi trailer while I was parked.....in a dock....getting unloaded. 

 

As for if it's cheating to play the system, then call me a cheater. When I went in years ago to get my motorcycle endorsement on my license, I borrowed a friend's 280cc highway legal scooter instead of using my heavy as hell Honda Goldwing. 

My dad would kill all 3 of us if either of of us brought home a bike, he'd hang all three of us with our entrails. 

[StrawberryShortCakes]

25 minutes ago, Lord Vile said:

Well she'll only be able to drive Auto cars? 

Yeah, but she has the skills for the manual but manual test cost alot more so she took the auto. Anyway she bought the Aygo automatic version. 

I'm gonna save up for manual tho since I have 3 yrs to save up, I'm hoping to get something like  an updated version of the aygo in 3 yrs. 

[StrawberryShortCakes]

16 minutes ago, Levent said:

There is one hell of an sibling rivalry going on here. Feel free to take your drivers license test in a long wheelbase audi a8 if you feel like there is an unfair advantage.

Trust me you don't want to know what my brother did to my sister that pushed her to get a black belt just to whoop his ass into a hospital. I learned one thing early in life.

"Never piss off a girl or she'll break both your arms with no hesitation. " 

[minibois]

17 hours ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

My sister just got her driver's license...... she got it driving her best friend's Toyota iQ automatic ,  

Isn't that considered cheating? 

How can anyone fail parallel parking that car? It's freaking tiny. 

It's like an unfair advantage. 

Isn't it unfair you can do you driver's exam with a small car and then go ahead and drive a car (van) like this?

 

Plus, you act like you were there in the driver's exam. Do you even know if she was able to parallel park due to the car or her skill?

No need to be jealous about that.. 

Edited July 23, 2020 by minibois
van too large b4

[Zusafek]

41 minutes ago, StrawberryShortCakes said:

My dad would kill all 3 of us if either of of us brought home a bike, he'd hang all three of us with our entrails. 

My kids are going to have some classic cars to start with. Restoring them now with them now and have 10 more years for the oldest kid to get the car finished. 

[StrawberryShortCakes]

1 minute ago, minibois said:

Isn't it unfair you can do you driver's exam with a small car and then go ahead and drive a car (van) like this?

 

Plus, you act like you were there in the driver's exam. Do you even know if she was able to parallel park due to the car or her skill?

No need to be jealous about that.. 

I was there with her, I was watching the parking exam. 

[StrawberryShortCakes]

2 minutes ago, Zusafek said:

My kids are going to have some classic cars to start with. Restoring them now with them now and have 10 more years for the oldest kid to get the car finished. 

Classic cars in Singapore need special licences. So no classic cars for us. 

[StrawberryShortCakes]

2 minutes ago, Benji said:

Are we talking about the US? Because in Germany, when you make a regular drivers licence, you can be lucky to carry even a trailer behind your car with the current drivers licences. If it is as old as the one my father has, you'll also be allowed to drive vehicles like the one you posted, but that is the absolute maximum. But what is technically unfair is the fact that you are allowed to supposedly use "every assistant that your car uses" during the practical driving exam, including active parking assistants.

I live in Singapore. Not America. 

[minibois]

4 minutes ago, Benji said:

Are we talking about the US? Because in Germany, when you make a regular drivers licence, you can be lucky to carry even a trailer behind your car with the current drivers licences.

Looks like the van I posted was just a bit too big (for the regulations on a 'normal car license' where I live), so it's more like this sort of van I guess:

Which is of course not at all the same as a (small) car, but you can still drive this, after doing an exam in a (tiny) car.

The rule is: under 3500KG (including 'max allowed carry weight' of the vehicle) and 8 or people or under (excluding the driver) place in vehicle.

6 minutes ago, Benji said:

you can be lucky to carry even a trailer behind your car with the current drivers licences. 

Where I live, with a normal car driver's license you can drive with a trailer as long as:

- The trailer is less than 750KG (including carry weight)

AND

- The car + trailer are under 3500KG (including carry weight).

 

Otherwise you need an upgraded variant of the license.

But that still means you're allowed to drive basically any trailer or a small caravan (with a normal-ish car), when you NEVER learn to do this in your drivers exam.

11 minutes ago, Benji said:

But what is technically unfair is the fact that you are allowed to supposedly use "every assistant that your car uses" during the practical driving exam, including active parking assistants.

When I was doing my driver's exam, I was indeed allowed to use any and all assistants (which means side mirrors that can point down and a camera in the back), because otherwise they would need to turn off these features or give a driver's license that only permits the use of a car with these features (just like how there is a manual/automatic transmission license).

That is less practical though.. But I do understand what you mean.

[TheoryInPractice]

Hey, as long as she is a competent driver I don't see a problem. Obviously it's better to get your licence driving a larger manual car, that way you can get a better feeling of the car, but it's fine, she'll pick it up.

[dalekphalm]

What an odd thread.

 

No, taking a small car to a drivers exam isn't "cheating" - especially if the driver owns and/or drives said small car on a regular basis.

 

Yes, small cars are typically easier to drive in, in particular maneuvering in tight spaces. Yes parallel parking in a larger car is more difficult.

 

But who exactly gets to decide what size of car you should take the test in? A Honda Civic? Bigger than her car, yes, but still considered quite small. A Camry? Bigger again, but no land boat.

 

How about a full size Ford Expedition or a Navigator or something?

 

Should we force everyone to take the test in a Cargo Van with no rear windows?

 

You sound... I don't know - jealous, maybe?

 

Why do you even care that she took the test in a small car? Do you think she's a bad driver?