regret to buy "futureproof" Cpu

[dfsgsfa]

3 yrs ago , had to choose between 7700k and just ryzen 1600 /1700

and 1700 it is, coz i had budget to buy 7700

 

gaming wise is exactly what I expect, under 100fps  which is more than enough that my monitor is still at 75hz and dont have a need to upgrade

but seeing most cores at idle really feels bad.

 

amd becoz the initial cost to futureproof  was high, $130 more in my case, it makes any upgrade path more difficult....

[Eighjan]

What 'board did you get?

[iBabySlapper]

Yeah, "futureproof" is usually a flawed concept with PC hardware.

[Tristerin]

I bought a 1700 in 2017, and in 2019 - I have no regrets.  Not sure what you mean on upgrade path, my B350 and B450 boards support latest gen so can still upgrade.

 

Also not sure the 100 FPS issue you are having - could be a GPU/settings issue.  

 

OC the chip, lots of gains to be had there.

[dfsgsfa]

24 minutes ago, Eighjan said:

What 'board did you get

its a asus b350 F, pretty above average

 

9 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

Not sure what you mean on upgrade path, my B350 and B450 boards support latest gen so can still upgrade.

have been 3 yrs since laumch, and i believe ( for majority ) no cpu is worth upgrading if you have a 1600 or 1700 at beginning.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, dfsgsfa said:

its a asus b350 F, pretty above average

 

have been 3 yrs since laumch, and i believe ( for majority ) no cpu is worth upgrading if you have a 1600 or 1700 at beginning.

So you are saying you did Futureproof?  Cause I planned on proofing for 5 years and seems like Im still on track to hit my personal definition of future proof.

 

 

[Eighjan]

1 minute ago, dfsgsfa said:

its a asus b350 F, pretty above average

That supports Zen 2 (Ryzen 3xxx), but you may need a BIOS upgrade to recognise them - if you take that path, update the BIOS FIRST..

[dfsgsfa]

2 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

So you are saying you did Futureproof?  Cause I planned on proofing for 5 years and seems like Im still on track to hit my personal definition of future proof.

in fact , yes IT Did Futureproof enough, as per my expectation. 

i need to upgrade monitor first , then gpu etc, which still havent happened

 

but if i have a 1600 in 1st place, nothing should have changed

[Nakedpeanut]

I really don't see your issue here?

Are you saying you'd rather have a 4 core CPU so you don't have 2 cores running idle?

If you went 7700k you would have no upgrade path as the sockets have changed (I know I have the i5 7600k).

 

 

39 minutes ago, dfsgsfa said:

3 yrs ago , had to choose between 7700k and just ryzen 1600 /1700

and 1700 it is, coz i had budget to buy 7700

 

gaming wise is exactly what I expect, under 100fps  which is more than enough that my monitor is still at 75hz and dont have a need to upgrade

but seeing most cores at idle really feels bad.

 

amd becoz the initial cost to futureproof  was high, $130 more in my case, it makes any upgrade path more difficult....

 

[dfsgsfa]

18 minutes ago, Nakedpeanut said:

I really don't see your issue here?

nothing is wrong  , perfectly good sys indeed, amd cpu usage is just 20% in most cases,

 

that means , I AM THE BOTTLENECK

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, dfsgsfa said:

I AM THE BOTTLENECK

This is a new one to me, typically that would mean I didn't plug something in right

[Guest]

What? 

[dfsgsfa]

27 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

This is a new one to me, typically that would mean I didn't plug something in right

i do not have enough input to utilise the pc , thats how

[RollinLower]

22 minutes ago, dfsgsfa said:

i do not have enough input to utilise the pc , thats how

this is flawed logic.

 

if you did get a PC that had 90% utilisation all the time you would need to upgrade much sooner, and the pc would run much hotter and louder.

the fact that your PC is under utilized only means you are going to be fine with the system for a longer time. 

 

[Tristerin]

43 minutes ago, dfsgsfa said:

i do not have enough input to utilise the pc , thats how

Play Warzone, it will chew on all 16 threads just fine

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to CPUs, Motherboards and Memory

***

 

I don't quite understand why you got Ryzen if you wanted futureproofing. I mean we were all awed that AMD did actually produce competitive CPU, but it was still gonna be 1st gen. 2nd gen Ryzen was the point to me where I thought AMD really is something I need to considering when my next upgrade (probably next year) comes.

 

The futureproofing as term seems to be as much misunderstood as bottlenecking. Futureproofing doesn't automatically mean you have upgrade path. It means that you buy enough power that it will last you longer and give you more options. Like buying Intel CPU on new socket/chipset since its almost always gonna have "tock" line. This was my reasoning and I still would have option to go for DC i7. Problem with that is that you are at the mercy of hardware manufacturers. Never trust them. I already got burned twice with RAM. First on previous cycle with my 800MHz DDR2's which weren't good when trying to upgrade. And again with 2133MHz DDR3's since at that point value of high clock speed RAM was none and upgrading meant to be limited at 1600MHz because of better availability.

 

I bought new socket i7 back in 2013. New socket since I had strong feeling Intel would stick to their model of "tick-tock". i7 since I was moving away Q6600 and knew it was so much better pick than E8400. Still stand behind that. Cost was higher, but then again, 7 years and only now I'm getting issues.

[dfsgsfa]

48 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

 

I don't quite understand why you got Ryzen if you wanted futureproofing

simply it has too many cores and thread back in the standard of 2017.

 

i agree too that the term futureproof is very subjective

i will discribe it as how long do you expect it will serve you good