F@H Web Client Dark Skin with PPD comparison by GPU / WU

[LAR_Systems]

On 7/26/2020 at 1:23 PM, marknd59 said:

@LAR_Systems I just dropped a link to https://folding.lar.systems/ over on the F@H dicord I hope it's OK.

All good by me!  Thanks for spreading the word.

[marknd59]

I just started a thread over on the Floding at support forum to spread the word a bit more you never know we my pick up a few new team members 

[marknd59]

@LAR_Systems the post over at the support forum has a question.

 

"Given that HFM can query remote clients, getting your extension to do the same would be awesome."

 

https://foldingforum.org/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=35922&p=340746#p340746

[HaloJones]

Hi guys, I asked that question. I like the extension but there is a surefire way to get more users of it which is to allow the webclient to control remote systems that otherwise can only be controlled with AdvancedControl. Obviously most folders only have the one system but power users are almost certain to have multiple machines. I'm not going to install an extension on multiple machines.

 

P.S. I seem to be the first to provide data on a TitanX

 

[Kilrah]

See earlier in the thread, not possible due to how extension permissions work.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1200195-fh-web-client-dark-skin-with-ppd-comparison-by-gpu-wu/?do=findComment&comment=13713459

[marknd59]

4 minutes ago, HaloJones said:

Hi guys, I asked that question. I like the extension but there is a surefire way to get more users of it which is to allow the webclient to control remote systems that otherwise can only be controlled with AdvancedControl. Obviously most folders only have the one system but power users are almost certain to have multiple machines. I'm not going to install an extension on multiple machines.

 

P.S. I seem to be the first to provide data on a TitanX

 

Nice of you to pop over and visit.

[HaloJones]

4 minutes ago, Kilrah said:

See earlier in the thread, not possible due to how extension permissions work.

 

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1200195-fh-web-client-dark-skin-with-ppd-comparison-by-gpu-wu/?do=findComment&comment=13713459

Interesting. So the constraint is Google's rules for Chrome whereas HFM as a Windows program can query whatever it likes.

 

What about getting a request in to the HFM developer to pass his collected data to your DB? For example - and I deleted my HFM db a couple of months ago, it currently holds >7000 results that could be feeding your DB.

[Favebook]

2 hours ago, HaloJones said:

Interesting. So the constraint is Google's rules for Chrome whereas HFM as a Windows program can query whatever it likes.

 

What about getting a request in to the HFM developer to pass his collected data to your DB? For example - and I deleted my HFM db a couple of months ago, it currently holds >7000 results that could be feeding your DB.

There was similar talk in this thread too, feel free to scroll through 10 pages, it's not much.

 

He/we do(es) not need it as the database needs to be fresh, and not from old WUs.

[HaloJones]

I'm not suggesting taking the old data from HFM, but fresh data as it collects it.

 

BTW, I understand there is supposed to be a "disable animations" option but I don't see it on the v1.1.1 extension?

 

[marknd59]

15 minutes ago, HaloJones said:

I'm not suggesting taking the old data from HFM, but fresh data as it collects it.

 

BTW, I understand there is supposed to be a "disable animations" option but I don't see it on the v1.1.1 extension?

 

Bottem left corner should look like this.

 

 

[HaloJones]

OK, it doesn't. I have enable no sleep mode but not disable animations. that's on Chrome on Windows 10 and on Linux Mint 18. Google Chrome is up to date.

 

[marknd59]

11 minutes ago, HaloJones said:

OK, it doesn't. I have enable no sleep mode but not disable animations. that's on Chrome on Windows 10 and on Linux Mint 18. Google Chrome is up to date.

 

I have no idea why it's not working for you. Maybe someone else here can figure it out.

[Kilrah]

I think it's only available if you fold for LTT to avoid confusing normal users... there was discussion earlier in the thread, might want to search for it to check.

[marknd59]

1 hour ago, Kilrah said:

I think it's only available if you fold for LTT to avoid confusing normal users... there was discussion earlier in the thread, might want to search for it to check.

OK found it thanks.

[LAR_Systems]

Go AFK for one week an look at all the things that happen LOL.

[LAR_Systems]

Hi Everyone,

Not a huge update, but wanted to let you know I have done some performance optimizations to the stats site and database in preparation of some upcoming additions.

You should find navigating the lists and GPU profiles much faster now as the data tables have been reprogrammed to remove the use of JS frameworks that were bogging things down the page load.

Goal is to get pages flat, small and fast for caching before adding some charts and other data tools to aid in visualizing and using PPD data gathered.
 

Preparing tools now for the launch (and hopefully purchase) of new GPUs in the fall that I'm sure we will all be very interested in seeing the performance on compared to other GPUs.

Cheers,

[GOTSpectrum]

2 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

-snip-

Thank you for your continued work on this! 

[marknd59]

If you want me too I'll be happy to try to spread the word about the extention. I'm just sitting around all day with nothing to do but I've only just got into Folding so I don't know where to get the word out to. If people can let me know places to visit I'll see what I can do.

[GOTSpectrum]

@LAR_Systems would you be able to update the screenshots on the Folding in the dark website, it seems that they could do with it  

[marknd59]

OK I decided to start with the F@H dicord general channel to see what happens.

 

[marknd59]

Using data from the database I've been working on the following spreadsheet. I've got a problem with AMD cards due to the way F@H groups them togeather. Anyone any ideas how to include them ?

 

GPU PPD per kWh

[LAR_Systems]

On 8/11/2020 at 10:20 PM, marknd59 said:

Using data from the database I've been working on the following spreadsheet. I've got a problem with AMD cards due to the way F@H groups them togeather. Anyone any ideas how to include them ?

 

GPU PPD per kWh

Not to discourage you but don't want you to sink too much time etc. as dynamic info of this nature is on the way.

In the works already is cost per PPD and cost per Watt.

These would change in realtime based on daily updates to a GPUs PPD as it fluctuates based on work units, drivers and folding cores regularly.   

Costs therefore would also be estimated wattage, based on a high, average and low.

Reason for that is related to reference cards vs aftermarket cards having ranging wattage requirements due to different  factory overclocks, number of fans, water pumps (AIOs) etc.

So the goal becomes to provide a best and worst understanding of operation cost to performance for a GPU model as that's all we really know about the GPUs with the folding data, GPU.  The user then has to figure for themselves the wattage of the card they are looking at.

These will then be presented in a GPU ranking lists as best PPD by wattage efficiency.

A similar approach will be applied to cost range vs PPD.  (Spoiler 2060 Supers currently look like king of price to performance per watt folding)

And we already show over PPD.

End goal is providing users with a solid way to make a informed decision based on current folding cores if they are trying to do the following.

1) Get the most PPD in a single card in a single slot in their computer
2) Get the most cost effective PPD in a single card in a single slot in their computer
3) Get the most balanced cost, wattage and PPD in cases where you might be building a multi-gpu full time server

Cheers,

[marknd59]

37 minutes ago, LAR_Systems said:

A similar approach will be applied to cost range vs PPD.  (Spoiler 2060 Supers currently look like king of price to performance per watt folding)

I started the sheet because I was looking to up grade to a better GPU. Guess what I got. 2 x 2060 supers. They are way ahead even better if you power limit them to 80% mine are drawing 137w and almost no difference in PPD.

[LAR_Systems]

2 minutes ago, marknd59 said:

I started the sheet because I was looking to up grade to a better GPU. Guess what I got. 2 x 2060 supers. They are way ahead even better if you power limit them to 80% mine are drawing 137w.

Yep, the bulk of my folding fleet for cold weather are 2060 Supers.   The delta in performance vs cost and power of the 2070/80 supers makes it a really easy choice.

I hope I eat those words with the next gen and there is more difference between cards.

But last gen folding was all 1060s hitting the same balance of power, PPD and cost as well.

[marknd59]

I've been checking how many people are using the extention since I dropped an announcement about it in F@H dicord general channel and it went from 140 to 147 in a couple of days so it might have done some good.