Is intel 10th gen dead on arrival?

[Dolan Trump]

So nvidia new 3000 series GPUs will be PCIe 4.0 which is not supported by intel new 10th gen processors. AMD on the other hand has this feature even on current gen.

Does that make intel 10th gen basically dead on arrival for top tier gaming?

 

I'm currently considering finally upgrading my old 3770k and I was always a bit of an intel fan boy. I was really hoping 10th gen will be the new shit, but now that nvidia dropped that PCIe 4.0 news AMD is starting to look even better than before.

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

pcie gen 4 is very unlikely to make a big difference in performnace, I don't think that will make a big differnce.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

pcie gen 4 is very unlikely to make a big difference in performnace, I don't think that will make a big differnce.

^^^ Even the mighty 2080 Ti only loses 2-3% performance on PCIe 3.0 x8. And most boards can easily push x16 on the top slot (they normally cut to x8/x8 when running SLI) which is double that bandwidth. PCIe 4.0 x16 is double that yet again, but at this point it's pretty useless for GPUs, they can't come close to actually needing that bandwidth. 

[Inkz]

From what I have seen certain high speed SSDs can make use of it, not so much GPUs atm. PCIE gen 3 is more than enough for now for like 99% of people but never know for future proofing. 

[19_blackie_73]

At least pricing seems somewhat realistic in contrast to the last gens so...

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[Dolan Trump]

20 minutes ago, Inkz said:

PCIE gen 3 is more than enough for now for like 99% of people but never know for future proofing. 

Oh I thought if nvidia is pushing it for new gpus it's for some reason, I also heard that new gpus will be heavily bottlenecked by cpu, will PCIe 4 not help with that? If that will be the case, what would you say is more important more cores -3900x or higher clock speeds - 10700k?

 

[Inkz]

8 minutes ago, Dolan Trump said:

Oh I thought if nvidia is pushing it for new gpus it's for some reason, I also heard that new gpus will be heavily bottlenecked by cpu, will PCIe 4 not help with that? If that will be the case, what would you say is more important more cores -3900x or higher clock speeds - 10700k?

 

Well those new GPUs haven't been announced yet and we also don't know how well the 10700k performs since it is also unreleased we can speculate but don't know for sure. Also depends on the workloads. AMD currently wipes the floor with productivity but still loses in a decent amount of games. 

[kingmustard]

1 hour ago, InfinityVive said:

I'd say the i5 10400(f) would bring intel back to competition in the mid-range CPUs market, but AMD is still the price/performance king, hell, they've even became the performance king recently

Not in gaming.

[Gohardgrandpa]

I’m ready for real benchmarks on these intel cpus. I need cpu mobo and ram for a new build, I’ve got everything else just hanging out waiting for the rest of the parts 

[Falkentyne]

It's not dead on arrival if it's selling out like hotcakes, no matter what AMD fanboys want to believe.  If it doesn't sell, it's dead.  Preorders sold out in 5 minutes (Just as fast as 9900k preorders did).

[Mister Woof]

https://www.newegg.com/intel-core-i7-10700k-core-i7-10th-gen/p/N82E16819118123?&quicklink=true

 

$409

 

The Ryzen 7 3800x was $399 at launch.

 

$329 for the 3700x but that's probably more closely matched to the i7-10700 non k.

 

I think the price is pretty fair.