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[Soundmin7]

Linus:

 

I believe if you can not make something, at least once, you should not use it at all.

 

-> One might become enslaved by the necessity of the item. It is better off avoiding all together.  -> ex Ghandi and salt.

 

These advanced techs and expensive cards seem beyond the hobists frame of mind. 

 

In the old days we solder components on bread boards.

 

I fear for the future generations which might become dependant on a 'less than' sufficient technology to fight a war. 

 

Get back to me on this.

 

Dale T

 

 

 

 

[lewdicrous]

8 minutes ago, Soundmin7 said:

In the old days we solder components on bread boards.

Now we solder things to PCBs that we designed ourselves.

8 minutes ago, Soundmin7 said:

I fear for the future generations which might become dependant on a 'less than' sufficient technology to fight a war.

What makes them "less than sufficient technology"?

[minibois]

9 minutes ago, Soundmin7 said:

In the old days we solder components on bread boards.

I sincerely hope this wasn't a common practice 

Breadboards and perfboards serve a different purpose..

 

Also, I'm not totally sure what you're trying to say here... But yes, repairing electronics is important.

[Jumballi]

Just now, minibois said:

I sincerely hope this wasn't a common practice 

Breadboards and perfboards serve a different purpose..

 

Also, I'm not totally sure what you're trying to say here... But yes, repairing electronics is important.

it wasn't, from the minute you could have a pc in your house, even the comically big ones, it was a bunch of gpu shaped daughter boards that you plugged into one another, no soldering ever unless you're talking about og overclocking

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

Ghandi said none of that shit. 

[minibois]

20 minutes ago, Jumballi said:

it wasn't, from the minute you could have a pc in your house, even the comically big ones, it was a bunch of gpu shaped daughter boards that you plugged into one another, no soldering ever unless you're talking about og overclocking

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe OP brought up the breadboard point to kind of say "back in my day we used to solder our own electronics together!". Which I believe is some sort of education missing in schools nowadays.

 

But with "I hope this wasn't common practice" I specifically meant using a breadboard to solder to.

Breadboard:

Spoiler

^board you plug wires and devices into

 

Perfboard:

Spoiler

^board you actually solder components into.

[AngryBeaver]

4 hours ago, Soundmin7 said:

Linus:

 

I believe if you can not make something, at least once, you should not use it at all.

 

-> One might become enslaved by the necessity of the item. It is better off avoiding all together.  -> ex Ghandi and salt.

 

These advanced techs and expensive cards seem beyond the hobists frame of mind. 

 

In the old days we solder components on bread boards.

 

I fear for the future generations which might become dependant on a 'less than' sufficient technology to fight a war. 

 

Get back to me on this.

 

Dale T

 

 

 

 

I mean yes, maybe the do it yourself and solder your own mentality is dying, but so is the necessity for it.

 

Back then you didn't have the automation and the capabilities to work on these much smaller processes. You were very limited to what you could fit on a board and then limited by just how big the components were. So you would peice together a machine, and replace different components by just unplugging one board from the others. You also had huge machines with huge cost.

 

Today the size of these machines is a fraction of what it was, same thing for the component size, and cost. The machines are also higher quality and last longer thanks to all these improvements. They are more user friendly and are in pretty much in everyone home in a first world country.

 

So the question is; was the trade off worth it? I think so. There will always be a small enthusiast market for some of what you are missing and soldering will be needed for a very long time still. In return though we get computers and smart devices into more houses, with higher reliability, and a low costs. My cell phone for examples is tens of thousands times faster that the computers talked about here. All in the size of something I can carry in my pocket. I have access to any information, entertainment,  or communication need I might have in seconds. That IMO is worth it.

[Soundmin7]

All i was saying was dependency is an issue.

 

[Letgomyleghoe]

20 hours ago, minibois said:

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe OP brought up the breadboard point to kind of say "back in my day we used to solder our own electronics together!". Which I believe is some sort of education missing in schools nowadays.

 

But with "I hope this wasn't common practice" I specifically meant using a breadboard to solder to.

Breadboard:

^board you plug wires and devices into

 

Perfboard:

^board you actually solder components into.

thank god someone knows the difference between pcb, bread board, and perfboard/protoboard.

[cesh me inside b0z]

21 hours ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

Ghandi said none of that shit. 

Ghandi was also an asshole.

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

9 hours ago, F77 said:

Ghandi was also an asshole.

So was george washington, that doesn't mean i can make shit up and quote it as if george washington had said it. 

[Founders]

On 1/15/2020 at 3:45 AM, Soundmin7 said:

I believe if you can not make something, at least once, you should not use it at all.

Have you ever designed and built your own car, cell phone, TV, satellite, lithium battery? The list is endless and your statement is ridiculously hypocritical. What ever device you’re posting on the forums with is very likely something you have no experience making yourself.

[Ecchi]

The point of this thread is....?

[cesh me inside b0z]

1 hour ago, Rohith_Kumar_Sp said:

So was george washington, that doesn't mean i can make shit up and quote it as if george washington had said it. 

Well you can because they are mostly meaningless people.

[Mira Yurizaki]

On 1/15/2020 at 12:45 AM, Soundmin7 said:

I believe if you can not make something, at least once, you should not use it at all.

Did you make and deploy a world wide network before accessing this forum?

[Bombastinator]

This is similar to some of the more extremist Amish theory but even they don’t go that far.  This is about division of labor.  It hasn’t been possible for thousands of years.  

[Touch My Hamm]

not sure on point of this tread and why its in general instead of off topic?

[Rohith_Kumar_Sp]

16 minutes ago, F77 said:

Well you can because they are mostly meaningless people.

meaningless people is not an excuse for spreading false information.

[WkdPaul]

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