Any new SSDs worth waiting for?

[mattdmg]

I am looking to upgrade my storage to a Samsung 970 Evo NVMe. Is there any new SSD technologies coming out within this year that are worth waiting for? 

[LienusLateTips]

You probably don't need a high end NVMe drive, anyway. What are you planning to do?

[mattdmg]

1 minute ago, LienusLateTips said:

You probably don't need a high end NVMe drive, anyway. What are you planning to do?

Gaming. I thought it would possibly help to eliminate stuttering in certain games

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, mattdmg said:

Gaming. I thought it would possibly help to eliminate stuttering in certain games

Not at all, over a regular SSD. Save your money, and get something like the Crucial MX500, Intel 660p, or the HP EX900.

[Enderman]

19 minutes ago, mattdmg said:

Gaming. I thought it would possibly help to eliminate stuttering in certain games

Makes 0 difference.

Buy a regular sata SSD for a lower price so that you can get a larger size instead.

[mr moose]

10 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Makes 0 difference.

Buy a regular sata SSD for a lower price so that you can get a larger size instead.

This or buy the older generation of the top end SSD when they are on EOL clearance, either way you'll get great performance for your dollar.

[Doobeedoo]

I'm in no rush currently but I want to see the new samsung Pro on PCIe 4.0.

[jerkwagon]

you may notice a difference in load times with nvme over ssd, i think my pc is under 10 seconds with the nvme.  but for performance in gaming, not likely or worth the upgrade.. 

[xreaperx22]

7 minutes ago, jerkwagon said:

you may notice a difference in load times with nvme over ssd, i think my pc is under 10 seconds with the nvme.  but for performance in gaming, not likely or worth the upgrade.. 

yeah boot performance is super fast with my samsung 950 pro 512gb that i got long time ago (before the 960 came out) i was overwhelmed by the boot speed from a samsug 840 evo ssd to the 950 pro,like you turn it on and theres windows lol basically blink and its booted! and i do notice games that have long load screens tend to be much faster on that thing.but thats just my performance and it doesnt mean everyone else will get the same.

[Wolrajh]

Since I was about to ask more or less that question too, what are we expecting / what is already on the market on the PCIe4 storage front ?

[James Stokes]

I think that for gaming you would be very satisfied with the 970 Evo NVMe drive. I most games care more about the CPU and GPU for reducing stuttering in games. Plus what monitor you are using and its refresh rate/ the milliseconds in lag (2-4ms would be about as good as most people would need).

 

The main benefit you would get with an NVMe drive is in loading levels of games and not the actual gameplay itself (and I doubt you would experience faster loading of game assets unless it is a graphically intense game like Shadow of the Tomb Raider or Final Fantasy). However, as long as you are using at least a SSD you should experience good performance in games.

 

For me the main benefit to a NVMe is snappier response while using Windows 10 opening and closing programs and moving files on and off the drive. You would also benefit from a NVMe if you were using it to scrub through videos while editing them or running other intense productivity software.

 

 

 

Here is a video I found that explains the differences between different types of SSDs:

 

This is a video that shows the loading times of different games using a mechanical HDD, SATA and NVMe SSds:

 

Here is a video that compares SATA and NVMe and the effect on gaming: 

 

 

I hope you find these to be helpful

 

[James Stokes]

I have been looking into the new 4.0 PCIe NVMe drives and was blown away at the insane speeds shown on the benchmarks I saw with 5GB/sec for seq read and 4.2 GB/sec for seq write. In comparison my 960 EVO NVMe drive has 3GB/sec seq read and 1.5GB/sec seq write. I would be very interested in seeing some real world testing done to see how much of a difference it makes in different types of tasks.

 

My expectations is that it would only make a marginal difference in booting or gaming when compared to the 970 EVO NVMe drive. However, I am sure that it would make a very marked difference when using it for rendering videos or running complex simulations of protein folding (I don't really know how much of a difference a fast storage drive would make when doing that, I only have heard a little. I think that based on the little I know about this topic that a fast CPU and GPU would make a larger difference).

 

I think it is possible that in the future having a fast NVMe drive will make more of a difference as software developers for mainstream software and games optimize their code to better utilize faster storage speeds (a similar thing happened a couple years ago as multi threaded CPUs become the norm, at the moment it would not be unusual to find modern games that utilize 4 or more cpu threads in running the game).

 

Below are some links to a couple articles I found on PCIe 4.0 storage drives.

 

Overview of PCIe technology: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3400176/pcie-40-everything-you-need-to-know-specs-compatibility.html

 

Amazon link for a Gigabyte 4.0 PCIe NVMe drive https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-Express-Interface-Performance-GP-ASM2NE6100TTTD/dp/B07TJWZGL9/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=Gigabyte+AORUS+NVMe+Gen4+M.2+500gb&qid=1562877972&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0

 

 

This is the benchmark for my 500GB 960 EVO m.2 SSD drive 

 

 

This is the benchmarks for the Gigabyte 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSD I got from the PCWorld article I linked above

 

 

[xreaperx22]

3 hours ago, James_Nilknarf said:

I have been looking into the new 4.0 PCIe NVMe drives and was blown away at the insane speeds shown on the benchmarks I saw with 5GB/sec for seq read and 4.2 GB/sec for seq write. In comparison my 960 EVO NVMe drive has 3GB/sec seq read and 1.5GB/sec seq write. I would be very interested in seeing some real world testing done to see how much of a difference it makes in different types of tasks.

 

My expectations is that it would only make a marginal difference in booting or gaming when compared to the 970 EVO NVMe drive. However, I am sure that it would make a very marked difference when using it for rendering videos or running complex simulations of protein folding (I don't really know how much of a difference a fast storage drive would make when doing that, I only have heard a little. I think that based on the little I know about this topic that a fast CPU and GPU would make a larger difference).

 

I think it is possible that in the future having a fast NVMe drive will make more of a difference as software developers for mainstream software and games optimize their code to better utilize faster storage speeds (a similar thing happened a couple years ago as multi threaded CPUs become the norm, at the moment it would not be unusual to find modern games that utilize 4 or more cpu threads in running the game).

 

Below are some links to a couple articles I found on PCIe 4.0 storage drives.

 

Overview of PCIe technology: https://www.pcworld.com/article/3400176/pcie-40-everything-you-need-to-know-specs-compatibility.html

 

Amazon link for a Gigabyte 4.0 PCIe NVMe drive https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-Express-Interface-Performance-GP-ASM2NE6100TTTD/dp/B07TJWZGL9/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?keywords=Gigabyte+AORUS+NVMe+Gen4+M.2+500gb&qid=1562877972&s=gateway&sr=8-1-fkmr0

 

 

This is the benchmark for my 500GB 960 EVO m.2 SSD drive 

 

 

This is the benchmarks for the Gigabyte 1TB M.2 PCIe 4.0 SSD I got from the PCWorld article I linked above

 

 

nice speeds! heres mine,i think there pretty decent. sorry for double picture post not sure how that happened lol

Edited July 12, 2019 by xreaperx22
double image

[James Stokes]

When you edit a post there should be box below your text that shows all the images associated with your post. If you click on the trash can on the bottom right of the second duplicate image then it should also remove itself from the post.

 

The scores for your HD are very nice, especially the random reads and writes for small files.  I am actually pretty impressed how strongly your drive performs overall. Most drives I have seen perform really well in one area and then more poorly in most other areas.

[xreaperx22]

13 hours ago, James_Nilknarf said:

When you edit a post there should be box below your text that shows all the images associated with your post. If you click on the trash can on the bottom right of the second duplicate image then it should also remove itself from the post.

 

The scores for your HD are very nice, especially the random reads and writes for small files.  I am actually pretty impressed how strongly your drive performs overall. Most drives I have seen perform really well in one area and then more poorly in most other areas.

thanks,i tweaked the living crap out of everything i could lol,and thats a 950 pro,and for some reason they are more expensive than a 970 pro not sure why that is.