Would My system benefit from faster RAM?

[CRA5HMAN]

Hello,

My current rig is in my signature.  I am wondering if my system would benefit from faster system RAM.  I currently have 16 Gigs ( 4 x 4gb) of Kingston Predator RAM CL12 (HX424C12PB2K4/16).  I am not clear if the timing CL12 makes up for the slower clock speed of 2400?  RAM prices have really come down (Canada) and would a faster clock speed benefit me?  I also might be upgrading the CPU in a year or so and could use the new RAM for that. I game at 3440 x 1440 100 Hz and play all types of games.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Rehmat]

With ram it reaches a point of diminishing returns quite quickly. It really does depend on your use case for the system. If gaming is what you are doing then I would just overclock the cpu until it reaches the limit of what is stable and call it a day.

[Dedayog]

4 minutes ago, CRA5HMAN said:

Hello,

My current rig is in my signature.  I am wondering if my system would benefit from faster system RAM.  I currently have 16 Gigs ( 4 x 4gb) of Kingston Predator RAM CL12 (HX424C12PB2K4/16).  I am not clear if the timing CL12 makes up for the slower clock speed of 2400?  RAM prices have really come down (Canada) and would a faster clock speed benefit me?  I also might be upgrading the CPU in a year or so and could use the new RAM for that. I game at 3440 x 1440 100 Hz and play all types of games.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

At this point, not really.  You're in good shape as it is.

 

If you do upgrade, go with an 2x8GB set and sell the 4x set.  3000 or 3200Mhz.

 

But really, no necessary with your setup.

 

Got everything on an SSD, btw?

[Cyracus]

Ram speed has minimal effect on gaming performance with intel CPUs so you wouldn't see much difference if any

[.Apex.]

27 minutes ago, CRA5HMAN said:

Hello,

My current rig is in my signature.  I am wondering if my system would benefit from faster system RAM.  I currently have 16 Gigs ( 4 x 4gb) of Kingston Predator RAM CL12 (HX424C12PB2K4/16).  I am not clear if the timing CL12 makes up for the slower clock speed of 2400?  RAM prices have really come down (Canada) and would a faster clock speed benefit me?  I also might be upgrading the CPU in a year or so and could use the new RAM for that. I game at 3440 x 1440 100 Hz and play all types of games.

 

Any help would be appreciated.

 

I have two 8GB sticks of the HyperX Predator 2400mhz CL12, and both sticks (bought separately at different dates) easily overclock to 3000Mhz CL15 at 1.35V, so I say you overclock them instead and see if it benefits you

 

Edit: if you're interested here are the timings, 15-17-17-35 1.35V 3000Mhz Command Rate: 2T

[Princess Luna]

10 minutes ago, Cyracus said:

Ram speed has minimal effect on gaming performance with intel CPUs so you wouldn't see much difference if any

Hey, this is a very inaccurate/wrong statement, maybe 6 or 7 years ago on DDR3 the gaming effect wasn't very notable but this hasn't been the case for a really while already.

 

Nowadays memory has a great impact on gaming performance regardless if Ryzen or Intel:

 

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This is an extreme case but I was able to validate notable performance gains going from 2133mhz to 3333mhz, so what you can do is not say "memory doesn't matter" but say that the 3200mhz is the sweet spot.

[Constantin]

Of course it will the price of your RAM with a fast one is almost double the money!!!

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

Hey, this is a very inaccurate/wrong statement, maybe 6 or 7 years ago on DDR3 the gaming effect wasn't very notable but this hasn't been the case for a really while already.

 

Nowadays memory has a great impact on gaming performance regardless if Ryzen or Intel:

 

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This is an extreme case but I was able to validate notable performance gains going from 2133mhz to 3333mhz, so what you can do is not say "memory doesn't matter" but say that the 3200mhz is the sweet spot.

Is that a 30% gain from what I just seen?

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, Oalei said:

Is that a 30% gain from what I just seen?

The moment Memory matters the MOST is when you reach a CPU bottleneck scenario, so if you're playing at 4k where you're GPU Bound anyways then yeah memory frequency won't be nearly as important and will net small gains.

 

However on a situation where you force a CPU bound scenario with 100% utilization (or close to it) then the only way to give the CPU even more room to stretch its legs aside the usual overclocking core frequency and what not is ensure memory has the highest frequency/low timing as possible.

 

You can see how much the RTX 2080 utilization increased alongside the more FPS and that's simply because the CPU managed to perform better, therefore if you're going for high refresh rate gaming specially something like 1080p240hz you Totally have to take your memory configuration into account.

[CRA5HMAN]

38 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

At this point, not really.  You're in good shape as it is.

 

If you do upgrade, go with an 2x8GB set and sell the 4x set.  3000 or 3200Mhz.

 

But really, no necessary with your setup.

 

Got everything on an SSD, btw?

OS and primary games on an really fast 1TB M.2 drive and other stuff on 3 other SSDs and backups on an HD

[CRA5HMAN]

19 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

Hey, this is a very inaccurate/wrong statement, maybe 6 or 7 years ago on DDR3 the gaming effect wasn't very notable but this hasn't been the case for a really while already.

 

Nowadays memory has a great impact on gaming performance regardless if Ryzen or Intel:

 

  Hide contents

This is an extreme case but I was able to validate notable performance gains going from 2133mhz to 3333mhz, so what you can do is not say "memory doesn't matter" but say that the 3200mhz is the sweet spot.

Is that at 1080p? If so, I probably wouldn't see that performance increase in my setup.  Impressive none the less!

**Edit ** Didn't see your last post, high refresh rate 1080p- got it.  

[CRA5HMAN]

26 minutes ago, _Syn_ said:

I have two 8GB sticks of the HyperX Predator 2400mhz CL12, and both sticks (bought separately at different dates) easily overclock to 3000Mhz CL15 at 1.35V, so I say you overclock them instead and see if it benefits you

 

Edit: if you're interested here are the timings, 15-17-17-35 1.35V 3000Mhz Command Rate: 2T

I was lucky to get a stable overclock on my 6700k!  I have never tried OCing RAM.  Something I might look at.  Thanks for the feedback.

[CRA5HMAN]

Thanks for the quick responses all! I think I will wait until I have to upgrade my CPU.

 

Cheers!

[Oalei]

24 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

The moment Memory matters the MOST is when you reach a CPU bottleneck scenario, so if you're playing at 4k where you're GPU Bound anyways then yeah memory frequency won't be nearly as important and will net small gains.

 

However on a situation where you force a CPU bound scenario with 100% utilization (or close to it) then the only way to give the CPU even more room to stretch its legs aside the usual overclocking core frequency and what not is ensure memory has the highest frequency/low timing as possible.

 

You can see how much the RTX 2080 utilization increased alongside the more FPS and that's simply because the CPU managed to perform better, therefore if you're going for high refresh rate gaming specially something like 1080p240hz you Totally have to take your memory configuration into account.

this is very new to me, the GPU utilization is increased by how much Speed the RAM is, I never knew that RAM could be one of the deciding factor for GPU utilization except the ryzen APU (i know normal gains from it too) chips. Now i know if i wanted a 240hz monitor 1080/1440 i have more info into it.