BOINC Pentathlon 2019

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, porina said:

If it is like other projects, they require two different people to return a unit and the results match. If they don't, another unit is sent out for completion until there is a match. Without this kind of system, it increases the risk from faulty hardware returning bad results, or even worse, intentional cheating for credits.

Well @Ithanul was saying they don't do twined units on WCG. hence why I asked.

[porina]

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

Well @Ithanul was saying they don't do twined units on WCG. hence why I asked.

It's a project choice if they want to enable this or not. Even without two matching results, they can still verify the content of the work unit to detect obvious errors or potential cheating. It may be that some projects decide that they'd rather have a lot of work done and that any errors in it don't matter to what they are doing.

 

Adaptive replication used to be a thing, I don't know if anyone uses it now. This is a kinda hybrid of the two. If a system is untrusted (either new, or has recently produced bad work) it will require double checking. Once a number of good units have been done, it becomes trusted and isn't routinely double-checked. An occasional unit might be double checked just for extra confidence.

[leadeater]

@Windows7ge

Could you maybe switch to yoyo as well? I seem to just be getting total garbage project performance on everything for some reason.

[GOTSpectrum]

24 minutes ago, leadeater said:

@Windows7ge

Could you maybe switch to yoyo as well? I seem to just be getting total garbage project performance on everything for some reason.

Agreed Mr windows, @Ithanul could you swap the 1900x to yoyo too? 

[Ithanul]

1 hour ago, Windows7ge said:

Do you remember the specific version you're on? Kind of important so I don't just install the latest and hope for the best.

I will check once I get back home after work.

 

1 hour ago, Ben Quigley said:

This I did not know,

 

Any ideas on how they validate then?

I have to double check, but I think WCG have validation servers.

 

This the list of the projects that where up for vote for the Pent and if they are quorum 1 or quorum 2:

 

12 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

Agreed Mr windows, @Ithanul could you swap the 1900x to yoyo too? 

Will do once I get home.

[Windows7ge]

1 hour ago, leadeater said:

@Windows7ge

Could you maybe switch to yoyo as well? I seem to just be getting total garbage project performance on everything for some reason.

You're not alone. I've switched over to yoyo and across all of my machines I'm seeing 8hrs, 12hrs, 22hrs, 1day depending on the task.

 

I have to ask though was there any special thing we were suppose to do? I connected to yoyo@home but I don't see how these points will be counted. They don't know about my team.

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, Windows7ge said:

You're not alone. I've switched over to yoyo and across all of my machines I'm seeing 8hrs, 12hrs, 22hrs, 1day depending on the task.

 

I have to ask though was there any special thing we were suppose to do? I connected to yoyo@home but I don't see how these points will be counted. They don't know about my team.

You need to sign up to the LTT team like you did for ZIKA

[Windows7ge]

6 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

You need to sign up to the LTT team like you did for ZIKA

Got it. I'm on the team but these are really long tasks I don't know how helpful I'll be here. Faster cores sound more ideal than my config.

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, Windows7ge said:

Got it. I'm on the team but these are really long tasks I don't know how helpful I'll be here. Faster cores sound more ideal than my config.

Unfortunately gotta piss with the cock you got...

 

it should be fine, 2 days left of of yoyo then we can be done with it.

[Egg-Roll]

I've not seen a yoyo task in over a day

1 hour ago, porina said:

Adaptive replication used to be a thing, I don't know if anyone uses it now. This is a kinda hybrid of the two. If a system is untrusted (either new, or has recently produced bad work) it will require double checking. Once a number of good units have been done, it becomes trusted and isn't routinely double-checked. An occasional unit might be double checked just for extra confidence.

So I could be waiting for a atom processor... Good to know.

 

...

 

Kill me now (look at the due date for my buddy in crime)

[Windows7ge]

2 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

Unfortunately gotta piss with the cock you got...

...does AvE mean anything to you?

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, Egg-Roll said:

I've not seen a yoyo task in over a day

So I could be waiting for a atom processor... Good to know.

 

...

 

Kill me now (look at the due date for my buddy in crime)

its probably one of the other teams holding onto the WU to drop a bunker... I wouldnt worry 

[GOTSpectrum]

Just now, Windows7ge said:

...does AvE mean anything to you?

That it does,

 

but has been a saying in my family for as long as I can remember 

[GOTSpectrum]

i come from a mining town, seems to have many of the same sayings the world over. 

[Windows7ge]

Just now, Ben Quigley said:

but has been a saying in my family for as long as I can remember 

Ah, alright. Well at least what my systems lack in speed they make up for in parallel processing. Once it starts finishing them there should be a steady stream of submissions from there-on out.

 

Just let me know when yoyo is done so I can set the servers to something else.

[GOTSpectrum]

Just now, Windows7ge said:

Ah, alright. Well at least what my systems lack in speed they make up for in parallel processing. Once it starts finishing them there should be a steady stream of submissions from there-on out.

 

Just let me know when yoyo is done so I can set the servers to something else.

I will do, just switch back to marathon when I say, will tell you a few hours before to give you a heads up.

[Egg-Roll]

9 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

its probably one of the other teams holding onto the WU to drop a bunker... I wouldnt worry 

ah ok still it hurts seeing now over 45 idling, also 7 went threw at some point between that question and now. The time in the Return Time section is that the server time or is that WCG Time?

[porina]

12 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

I've not seen a yoyo task in over a day

I set WCG as a backup project in case there is no work. Set the project share to zero, and boinc will only get work for that if there is nothing else.

 

12 minutes ago, Egg-Roll said:

So I could be waiting for a atom processor... Good to know.

There are usually two dates for units, one is the server deadline after which the unit is considered abandoned and wont get returned. Depending on the work going on, it may or may not generate another unit for someone else to do. The other date is when it actually returns work. Generally speaking, the server has no idea when the work will get returned. having said that, there is a trickle mechanism that is a kinda keep-alive message. It may be used by the server to extend the deadline for slower clients.

[Egg-Roll]

25 minutes ago, porina said:

There are usually two dates for units, one is the server deadline after which the unit is considered abandoned and wont get returned. Depending on the work going on, it may or may not generate another unit for someone else to do. The other date is when it actually returns work. Generally speaking, the server has no idea when the work will get returned. having said that, there is a trickle mechanism that is a kinda keep-alive message. It may be used by the server to extend the deadline for slower clients.

So very similar to the date on F@H then. 

25 minutes ago, porina said:

I set WCG as a backup project in case there is no work. Set the project share to zero, and boinc will only get work for that if there is nothing else.

 

Sounds like work, I'm done with work for the day  Maybe tomorrow morning.

[jiyeon]

Had my PC running for around 12 hours at this point, keeping my paces in the pentathlon going.

 

I love that running BOINC is basically a long-winded CPU stress test.

 

[Windows7ge]

My Linux VM isn't happy with Yoyo. It's just eating up my RAM.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

My Linux VM isn't happy with Yoyo. It's just eating up my RAM.

On the yoyo project website edit your preferences and turn off ECM tasks.

[Ithanul]

Yeah, yoyo can eat up some RAM for sure.

[Windows7ge]

7 minutes ago, leadeater said:

On the yoyo project website edit your preferences and turn off ECM tasks.

I couldn't find it so I did the only other logical thing.

I doubled the RAM in the VM instead. We're using 10.4GiB right now.

[leadeater]

2 minutes ago, Windows7ge said:

I couldn't find it so I did the only other logical thing.

I doubled the RAM in the VM instead. We're using 10.4GiB right now.

Each ECM task can use up to 6GB ram each, those were just killing my quad server so badly. Was like "nom nom nom 256GB ram" *server death*.