Prince Harry: Fortnite should be banned

[RejZoR]

What is this, the early 90's again? Duke, you're not all out of bubble gum, you're just drunk.

 

I hate Fortnite and I hate Epic even more, so I just don't play it. I most certainly wouldn't want it banned no matter what.

[pas008]

7 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Yeah once i saw the statistics behind mental health issues and social media it's pretty clear it has a huge effect. Attempted suicide in women shot up for the generation that had social media since they were young. 

I'd love a link to this if you can

so I can spam it on social media lol

15 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Or maybe just parent your children? Having the state mandate how someone restricts and raises their kids is not smart. Its not that hard to moderate how much your kids play video games. I know my parent did but they were also fairly reasonable about it as well. 

exactly, simple logic but so much laziness

honestly I dont care as long as my kid gets his chores, homework, some physical activity, and in person socializing done he can game all he wants but I still kick him off at times just because i'm the parent and I said so find something else to do

 

but on topic how the heck is this tech news this seems more like general discussion

[yian88]

37 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Or maybe just parent your children? Having the state mandate how someone restricts and raises their kids is not smart. Its not that hard to moderate how much your kids play video games. I know my parent did but they were also fairly reasonable about it as well. 

Most parents wont do it or dont know how or dont care, which means you end up with a lot of kids hooked on games.

In this case what is best to do? since video games are addicting and affect kids life and development severely, limiting games play hours by law makes sense, no more 18hours binge gaming for anyone regardless if its a kid or adult, its just not healthy. I know many other activities are in the same category, like drinking yourself to death 24/7 and we didnt ban alcohol so yeah the government is dumb and too selective.

[Gealach]

The problem isn't the games. The problem lies with parents who aren't interested in parenting.

 

Children spending 4+ hours a day on video games is not normal. Yeah, kids will be more likely to play with their friends online because it's more convenient than going over to see them IRL, but 4 hours a day is not normal for children to be doing.

 

At most, 1 or 2 hours is reasonable and the kids should have enough parental engagement not to need any amount of video game time.

 

Also, why's he targetting fortnite? It's pretty tame isn't it? Why not target mature games like RDR2 and blame parents for letting their kids play very adult games?

 

It's my personal view that parents today suck at parenting and if they want their kid to get outside and climb some trees then they should be out there getting the kids to play rather than letting a computer babysit their kid. I see kids left unsupervised browsing YouTube and watching for HOURS on end. That's a solid oof.

[Gullerback]

27 minutes ago, Gealach said:

The problem isn't the games. The problem lies with parents who aren't interested in parenting.

 

Children spending 4+ hours a day on video games is not normal. Yeah, kids will be more likely to play with their friends online because it's more convenient than going over to see them IRL, but 4 hours a day is not normal for children to be doing.

 

At most, 1 or 2 hours is reasonable and the kids should have enough parental engagement not to need any amount of video game time.

 

Also, why's he targetting fortnite? It's pretty tame isn't it? Why not target mature games like RDR2 and blame parents for letting their kids play very adult games?

 

It's my personal view that parents today suck at parenting and if they want their kid to get outside and climb some trees then they should be out there getting the kids to play rather than letting a computer babysit their kid. I see kids left unsupervised browsing YouTube and watching for HOURS on end. That's a solid oof.

I wouldn't say fortnite is tame.  I know peoples kids who wake up, turn on fortnite, eat link, back to fortnite, Eat dinner, Back to fortnite, sleep, wake up fortnite. Rince and repeat for 14 hours a day.  Alot of that is on the parents, But the kids themselves are addicted to this shit

[SPARTAN VI]

Simply none of the Prince's business. He can ban Fortnite in his own households (plural), but whether or not I or my children play Fortnite or for how long we play it, is seriously none of his business and none of the government's business. 

[Master Disaster]

This is the same person who thought it would be funny for a member of the English royal family to turn up to a fancy dress party dressed as a Wehrmacht soldier.

 

[Brooksie359]

53 minutes ago, yian88 said:

Most parents wont do it or dont know how or dont care, which means you end up with a lot of kids hooked on games.

In this case what is best to do? since video games are addicting and affect kids life and development severely, limiting games play hours by law makes sense, no more 18hours binge gaming for anyone regardless if its a kid or adult, its just not healthy. I know many other activities are in the same category, like drinking yourself to death 24/7 and we didnt ban alcohol so yeah the government is dumb and too selective.

Bad parenting is not an excuse to creat laws restricting people's freedom. 

[Brooksie359]

1 hour ago, pas008 said:

I'd love a link to this if you can

so I can spam it on social media lol

exactly, simple logic but so much laziness

honestly I dont care as long as my kid gets his chores, homework, some physical activity, and in person socializing done he can game all he wants but I still kick him off at times just because i'm the parent and I said so find something else to do

 

but on topic how the heck is this tech news this seems more like general discussion

That's basically what my parents did. I got my stuff done and did my fair share of sports and exercise so I was allowed to get my friends over and get some snacks and play halo or whatever game we were playing at the time all night until we crashed. The next day we usually would go do something like go out to the lake. Those nights are some of my fondest memories of childhood so for people to say they want to illegalize and deprive people of such experiences is just dumb. 

[Tristerin]

PLOT TWIST:

 

Prince Harry's account got banned, now hes a mad 12 year old.

IF I CANT PLAY NO ONE CAN PLAY

[Drak3]

40 minutes ago, Master Disaster said:

This is the same person who thought it would be funny for a member of the English royal family to turn up to a fancy dress party dressed as a Wehrmacht soldier.

 

That would be funny.

[Bravo1cc]

15 hours ago, Raskolnikov said:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/prince-harry-fortnite-banned-ymca-heads-together-a4109036.html

Well last time I checked Fortnite or social media doesn't ruin your organs or get you in trouble.

 

We're back to the early-to-mid 1990s. Computers bad.

 

Maybe if we were royals we'd have the money to have more diverse pastimes.

 

I think he is wrong for the most part, kids should not be playing games like fortnite, mine don't and they understand why.

[Master Disaster]

5 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

That would be funny.

The British royal legion did not agree.

[Guest]

15 hours ago, Raskolnikov said:

Well last time I checked Fortnite or social media doesn't ruin your organs or get you in trouble.

It can ruin your eyes,which are organs.

[Crunchy Dragon]

5 hours ago, yian88 said:

Children "moderate their internet usage".... u serious? not even parents know how to do it, or care about it let alone the kids themselves.

This is a stretch but its the same as saying allow children to drink alcohol and smoke because they should be able to moderate their consumption.... a stretch but its that bad.

 

I think way too often people think in black and white, instead of a balance, the real solution is like SouthKorea did, limit every game by law to how many hours per day you can play regardless of age lets say 2h per game daily for adults, and kids should get a maximum of 2-3h per day global hours, otherwise kids can still jump from game to game for 8h+.

They should incentivize kids to play outside more and organize school activities outside so they can learn about the world and develop themselves.

All this sitting on a chair is really really bad for the society's future.

I could moderate my various activities as a kid, my parents taught me how to.

[Brooksie359]

58 minutes ago, nnfancois said:

It can ruin your eyes,which are organs.

So can the sun. I guess we shouldnt let our kids outside now. 

[Brooksie359]

51 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I could moderate my various activities as a kid, my parents taught me how to.

Yeah it baffles me that people think it's impossible to parent kids to the point where they just want to go and have the government do it for them. Time to mandate foam on all cabinets and doors and all children to wear helmets I guess. 

[CarlBar]

45 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

I could moderate my various activities as a kid, my parents taught me how to.

 

The problem is that there's too many cases where this isn't true. And Bad parenting is an issue for more than just the child and the parents. Badly parented children tend to display all kinds of behavioural abnormalities that affect their classmates, people living around them, (and/or interacting with them online), and these issues if unaddressed can and will persist into adulthood. And that will leave society picking up the bill. Bad parenting does not just affect the child and their family.

 

Law proposals like this are an attempt to deal with such issues without going to the even more disruptive and negetive nuclear option of taking the child into foster care because the parent has demonstrated themselves incapable of adequately looking after the child.

 

Now that doesn't mean i entirely agree with his statement. There's all kinds of qualifiers involved IMO. But at the same time excessive obsessive behaviour by certain parts of the media played a major role in his mothers death. If that doesn't make obsessive behaviours in a negative fashion a trigger issue for him he's a lot better person than the majority of the human race.

 

I completely agree there are issues with social media and marketing of all kinds of products, (games and other online products are just especially bad because of the extreme ease of going from hearing about somthing to doing it), and those issues do need addressing, but i don't think blanket bans are the right way.

[Sir Asvald]

Police when catching someone playing Fornite. OI MATE YOU GOT LICENSE FOR THIS GAME?! 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Brooksie359 said:

So can the sun. I guess we shouldnt let our kids outside now. 

yeh but the last time i checked people dont like being blinded willfully,unless your kids do which is weird 

[suits]

I see what he's saying though, people are becoming unproductive in society because of games and social media (amoung other things). Government controlled restricts are dumb and not a good idea, but parents need to control their kids, and adults need to grow up and gain a little self control.

[yian88]

3 hours ago, Brooksie359 said:

Bad parenting is not an excuse to creat laws restricting people's freedom. 

This isnt just about bad parenting, its a bout a medium that badly influences kids and adults like drugs. 

Many families are fighting with addiction of one or more of their beloved ones, be it drugs, alcohol or games, both adults and kids.

 

People freedoms are already heavily restricted, and i would add more to those, limit alcohol sale per person to one bottle daily or anyone who wants to buy drinks needs an alcohol card that you can recharge monthly which allows you to buy a certain ammount each day. Sounds stupid and not the most practical, but why should you have the freedom to become an alcoholic or drug addict, homeless, destroy your family and maybe hurt other people too?

Moderation is key and not all individuals can achieve it, certainly not kids. I would say limit children gaming to 2-3hours of gaming total per day, ban all smokes sales, and limit alcohol per person daily they can buy. My family was ruined by my alcoholic father, and my youth was ruined by gaming addiction, my grandfather also died from lung cancer at 58 due to heavy smoking, and if there was bans to all these we would have been far better today without that addictive garbage.

You may want to keep your freedom of moderation id say you shouldnt have that freedom, just because it turned out good for you it doesnt mean it will be fine for everyone.

 

Banning or restricting things like gambling, gaming and substances would provide an amazing boost of health and general improvements to social/family life everywhere around the world, and you lose nothing in the process.

[Drak3]

3 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

British

^ That's why.

[I-r0k]

Not ur job m8, welcome 2 the internet...

[SPARTAN VI]

46 minutes ago, yian88 said:

You may want to keep your freedom of moderation id say you shouldnt have that freedom, just because it turned out good for you it doesnt mean it will be fine for everyone.

Just because it went poorly for you does not mean it will go poorly for everyone. 

 

46 minutes ago, yian88 said:

Banning or restricting things like gambling, gaming and substances would provide an amazing boost of health and general improvements to social/family life everywhere around the world, and you lose nothing in the process.

Losing the freedom to make your own decision about how video games & entertainment will be consumed in your own household is significantly more than "losing nothing." It's really none of your business how much video game entertainment people in my household consume. I wouldn't dream of dictating how people live their lives on trivial things such as this. I'll skip directly to the part where we "agree to disagree," because I'm not interested in changing your mind. Just pointing out that your words cut both ways, and IMO we should err on the side of freedom.