i5 9600K RTX2060 / i5 8400 RTX2070

[TheFlyingMonkey]

Trying to fit a suitable build under a budget. Which will be the deciding factor for choosing between a better CPU or GPU ? 

[Peskanova]

9400 + 2070? , pick 2070 for sure , With a 8400 - 8600k you will be fine  

[Guest]

Resolution or refresh rate. To play at a higher resolution you need a strong GPU, to play at a high refresh rate you need a good CPU

[LukeSavenije]

for gaming I'll say r5 2600/2070

[Midniteb0ne]

3 minutes ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

Trying to fit a suitable build under a budget. Which will be the deciding factor for choosing between a better CPU or GPU ? 

buy a motherboard which supports overclocking and then buy the i5 8400 and the rtx 2070, in the future you could upgrade your processor to something like the i7 8700k( which would cost less)

[dgsddfgdfhgs]

4 minutes ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

Trying to fit a suitable build under a budget.

really on budget?

with that budget ryzen 2600 or even 2700x & rtx2070

[GoldenLag]

36 minutes ago, Midniteb0ne said:

buy a motherboard which supports overclocking and then buy the i5 8400 and the rtx 2070, in the future you could upgrade your processor to something like the i7 8700k( which would cost less)

At that point it really doesnt make much sence. When there is something called the r5 2600. Which is a much better buy than the 8400 and having a much better upgrade path.

 

OP best choice would probably be a r5 2600 + 2070. The 8400 isnt worth by far and dropping GPU for CPU is 90% of the time not worth it. And that includes this time.

[AvogadrosDog]

It's also worth mentioning what you expect to play at: 1080p or 1440p. 1080p is slightly more CPU dependent whilst at 1440p it comes down to the GPU raw performance. That's something you should consider whenever you're thinking or looking to buy a GPU + CPU combination.

 

With respect to your situation, if your budget only allows those options I'd scrap both and go for a Ryzen 5 2600 + RTX 2070. Gaming-wise Intel is normally better (at the moment) but with that budget you're better off going for the Ryzen 5 2600.

 

Is this build also purely for gaming? If you're looking to do some productivity work or even streaming then the Ryzen 5 2600 is definitely a better fit and as for the latter the i5-8400 simply won't cut it or at least won't perform well.

 

Good luck with your build

[Turtle Rig]

48 minutes ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

Trying to fit a suitable build under a budget. Which will be the deciding factor for choosing between a better CPU or GPU ? 

What resolution do you play at ?  If you play at 1080p then get the 2060 RTX.  If you plan on playing at 1440p then grab the 2700 RTX and what not.  Also the 8400 can't be OCed just FYI,  It is the K model that allows for OCing.  good luck on your decision.

[MeatFeastMan]

Get the ryzen r5 2600 instead. You'll lose a bit of single core performance (It's not a big deal though, it's only like 10%) but you'll gain 6 more threads. This makes the 2600 a much better all-rounder, and that has always been ryzen's strength.

 

But If I had to pick between those two options, I'd go with the 2060 and the i5 8400. The 2070 is in an awkward place. The performance gap between the two is smaller than the gaps seem to be between the other gpu's. Nvidia did that specifically to make the 2060 competitive enough against a Navi threat from AMD. So really all you're getting for $100 more is 2gb extra vram. And don't buy the '6gb on 2060 isn't enough'.. GDDR6 is far greater than GDDR5, and people don't seem to take that into account. 6gb of gddr6 is probably equal to 8gb of gddr5.

 

 

 

 

[TheFlyingMonkey]

28 minutes ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Get the ryzen r5 2600 instead. You'll lose a bit of single core performance (It's not a big deal though, it's only like 10%) but you'll gain 6 more threads. This makes the 2600 a much better all-rounder, and that has always been ryzen's strength.

 

But If I had to pick between those two options, I'd go with the 2060 and the i5 8400. The 2070 is in an awkward place. The performance gap between the two is smaller than the gaps seem to be between the other gpu's. Nvidia did that specifically to make the 2060 competitive enough against a Navi threat from AMD. So really all you're getting for $100 more is 2gb extra vram. And don't buy the '6gb on 2060 isn't enough'.. GDDR6 is far greater than GDDR5, and people don't seem to take that into account. 6gb of gddr6 is probably equal to 8gb of gddr5.

 

 

 

 

Thanks for your input there. Point made on 2070 is what making me hesitate, cause a little more i could get a 2080 !

[TheFlyingMonkey]

34 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

What resolution do you play at ?  If you play at 1080p then get the 2060 RTX.  If you plan on playing at 1440p then grab the 2700 RTX and what not.  Also the 8400 can't be OCed just FYI,  It is the K model that allows for OCing.  good luck on your decision.

1080p for now. i5 9600K with the 2060 then

[TheFlyingMonkey]

36 minutes ago, xandredu said:

It's also worth mentioning what you expect to play at: 1080p or 1440p. 1080p is slightly more CPU dependent whilst at 1440p it comes down to the GPU raw performance. That's something you should consider whenever you're thinking or looking to buy a GPU + CPU combination.

 

With respect to your situation, if your budget only allows those options I'd scrap both and go for a Ryzen 5 2600 + RTX 2070. Gaming-wise Intel is normally better (at the moment) but with that budget you're better off going for the Ryzen 5 2600.

 

Is this build also purely for gaming? If you're looking to do some productivity work or even streaming then the Ryzen 5 2600 is definitely a better fit and as for the latter the i5-8400 simply won't cut it or at least won't perform well.

 

Good luck with your build

It will be highly used for gaming. No streaming

[AvogadrosDog]

1 hour ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

It will be highly used for gaming. No streaming

Intel then, the i5-9600k or 8600k (barely different, I got mine on a sale over the 8600k) will do you well. RTX 2060 is a great card, there's some slight minor differences between it and the RTX 2070 in terms of hardware spec but the RTX 2060 can even compete to a degree with the GTX 1080. Great card.

[MeatFeastMan]

1 hour ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

Thanks for your input there. Point made on 2070 is what making me hesitate, cause a little more i could get a 2080 !

Yes. I don't feel like the 2070 makes any sense because the performance gap between the 2060 and the 2070 is way too small in a lot of games. The only real area where the 2070 has a decent performance increase over the 2060 is in ray tracing. And I assume that isn't a big thing for you. The 2080 isn't great value but at least it distances itself from the 2060 and 2070 by a fair bit. A 2080 under 650 is something you should be looking for if you don't want the 2060. (Even if the 2080 is awful value it is the only option at that price range other than the radeon vii)

 

 

[Hans Power]

Hmm, when I bought the MSI RTX 2070 Armor I actually bought it for the cooler/fan design. Thing is - the cheaper 2060s (350-360€) either had bad IO or a rather terrible cooler design and the good 2060s were all way above 400€. At the same time I could get the MSI 2070 Armor for 500€ (among the cheapest 2070s) and what I got was a massively overbuild board and a cooler with dual ball bearings for high longevity + a 0 RPM fanmode (not a given with RTX cards anymore) and my particular model is even a great overclocker. Since the fans are usually the part which breaks first the fan bearings are always the thing I concider most. If a manufacturer doesn't advertise with Ball Bearings or Fluid-Dynamic bearings they usually use sleeve bearings and those aren't great - some of them have a MTBF of only 20.000 hrs and that might get you through the warranty but not far beyond that before the fan gets unbearably noisy - especially if the cooler design is also crap so that the fans often spin at a high RPM of ~2000RPM.

[GoldenLag]

2 hours ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

It will be highly used for gaming. No streaming

Still grab the 2600 and 2070 or if you can stretch for the 2080. You will benefit from this in the long run. 9600k just isnt that great of a CPU at this moment in time.

[Princess Luna]

i5 9600K and RTX 2060 for sure, or even better a Ryzen 5 2600 and the RTX 2060.

 

The RTX 2070 is a pile of overpriced garbage, don't waste that money on it.

[Stormseeker9]

3 hours ago, MeatFeastMan said:

Get the ryzen r5 2600 instead. You'll lose a bit of single core performance (It's not a big deal though, it's only like 10%) but you'll gain 6 more threads. This makes the 2600 a much better all-rounder, and that has always been ryzen's strength.

 

But If I had to pick between those two options, I'd go with the 2060 and the i5 8400. The 2070 is in an awkward place. The performance gap between the two is smaller than the gaps seem to be between the other gpu's. Nvidia did that specifically to make the 2060 competitive enough against a Navi threat from AMD. So really all you're getting for $100 more is 2gb extra vram. And don't buy the '6gb on 2060 isn't enough'.. GDDR6 is far greater than GDDR5, and people don't seem to take that into account. 6gb of gddr6 is probably equal to 8gb of gddr5.

 

 

 

 

About the extra 2GB of vram.. I’m glad I have the 2070. I play a lot of cities skylines and it eats all 8GB of vram. Also as I have a 1440p monitor 2070 is the obvious choice. If OP games at 1080p than, yes, 2060 will suffice. 

[Stefan Payne]

3 hours ago, TheFlyingMonkey said:

It will be highly used for gaming. No streaming

Doesn't matter, both are not that great as there already are games that love as many threads as you can throw at them (Assasin's Creed Odyssey for example).

And you don't have an upgrade path where you have one with AMD as there is at least one new 7nm Chip coming for that socket, possibly 2.

 

And the 7nm AMD might beat the shit out of the Intel - obviously, as the Ryzen are pretty good right now and have the manufacturing advantage.

 

Why restrict yourself to Intel/nVidia??

[xg32]

i can see 9600k/2060 hitting 1080p 144hz on some games, 8400+2070 is just downright terrible value and performance, the 8400 will bottleneck the 2070 if you run AAA titles at a higher refresh rate.

 

If you can wait a few months then zen 2 is a much better choice.