Budget increased, what do you think of this new build?

[pown otto]

 

Budget/location: about $3k USD for the tower and in eastern USA

 

purpose: high performance gaming on 1440p 165hz display

 

EDIT: scroll down to my other post for updated build.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($369.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($138.59 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($169.00 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($65.75 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($44.89 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB DUKE Video Card  ($1399.00 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT - H500i (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.00 @ B&H) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($85.98 @ Newegg Business) 
Case Fan: Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan  ($16.98 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: CRYORIG - QF120 Balance 49 CFM 120mm Fan  ($12.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2561.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-11 12:13 EST-0500

[Origami Cactus]

Pretty normal, but i dont understand the 1tb hdd at all?

With your budget you could just go with 2x 1tb SSD's and call it a day?

Also why do you have fans in the case from 3 different companies? I would just go all NZXT.

But other than that it is a very good build.

[bellabichon]

Overall, looks pretty good to me. However, the Kraken X62 is a pretty overpriced AIO, in my opinion. But if you have your sights set on it, pull the trigger.

[dizmo]

Why are you going with the 8700k and not something newer?

Hell, for that monitor a 9600k would be just as good, if you're just gaming.

I'd go with pure SSD storage.

If you're going to use the hub, that case is good. If not save the money and get the standard H500.

I'd get fans of the same type.
I wouldn't get an MSI motherboard.

 

Welcome to the forum.

[TH3R34P3R]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$499.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$195.60 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$159.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.00 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming Advanced Video Card	$1399.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT - H500i (White) ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$95.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK_WLED 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan	$14.39 @ Newegg
Case Fan	CRYORIG - QF120 Balance 49 CFM 120mm Fan	$12.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2895.74
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$2880.74
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-11 12:29 EST-0500

 this is what id build. 

minus the fans. i just took what the op used. 

[Constantin]

Your mobo needs 2 cpu connectors, 1x8 pin plus 1x4 pin.

The PSU on the list has only one CPU connector 1x8 pin. 

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Why are you going with the 8700k and not something newer?

Hell, for that monitor a 9600k would be just as good, if you're just gaming.

I'd go with pure SSD storage.

If you're going to use the hub, that case is good. If not save the money and get the standard H500.

I'd get fans of the same type.
I wouldn't get an MSI motherboard.

 

Welcome to the forum.

I wouldn't touch the i5s with a 10 foot pole with that kind if budget.  

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, TH3R34P3R said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor	$499.89 @ OutletPC
CPU Cooler	Corsair - H100i PRO 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$109.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$195.60 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$159.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.00 @ Amazon
Video Card	Asus - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB ROG Strix Gaming Advanced Video Card	$1399.99 @ Newegg
Case	NZXT - H500i (White) ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$95.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan	Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK_WLED 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan	$14.39 @ Newegg
Case Fan	CRYORIG - QF120 Balance 49 CFM 120mm Fan	$12.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2895.74
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$2880.74
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-11 12:29 EST-0500

 this is what id build. 

minus the fans. i just took what the op used. 

You cant cool a 9900k properly with a 240mm. You need a 280 or 360. 

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Your mobo needs 2 cpu connectors, 1x8 pin plus 1x4 pin.

The PSU on the list has only one CPU connector 1x8 pin. 

It's not required. It's extra for OC headroom but everything would work without it (the motherboard should come with a splitter though, just in case)

[Brooksie359]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$369.99 @ Newegg
CPU Cooler	NZXT - Kraken X62 Rev 2 98.17 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler	$138.59 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	MSI - MPG Z390 GAMING EDGE AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$169.00 @ Amazon
Memory	G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory	$159.00 @ Amazon
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 1 TB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$147.00 @ Amazon
Video Card	Zotac - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB GAMING AMP Video Card	$1299.99 @ B&H
Case	NZXT - H500i (White) ATX Mid Tower Case	$99.00 @ B&H
Power Supply	EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$85.88 @ OutletPC
Case Fan	Phanteks - PH-F140SP_BK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan	$16.98 @ Newegg
Case Fan	CRYORIG - QF120 Balance 49 CFM 120mm Fan	$12.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$2513.42
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$2498.42
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-11 12:34 EST-0500

 This is what I would change to your build. The zotac 2080ti is 100 solar cheaper and is a really good card. Just get a 1tb 860evo and call it a day. No need to buy a HD at all and you can always add more storage later if you run out. 

[dizmo]

6 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

I wouldn't touch the i5s with a 10 foot pole with that kind if budget.  

Yeah, gotta spend that extra cash for that extremely negligible improvement in games right?

Just because one has a large budget doesn't mean they have to spend it all.

[Brooksie359]

5 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It's not required. It's extra for OC headroom but everything would work without it (the motherboard should come with a splitter though, just in case)

Yeah mine has the same thing and I don't use the 4 pin and it works just fine. Only the 9900k would actually beinfit from the extra 4 pin. 

[Brooksie359]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Yeah, gotta spend that extra cash for that extremely negligible improvement in games right?

Just because one has a large budget doesn't mean they have to spend it all.

It's not negliagble though. Maybe in some games it doesn't matter but in the new AC it for sure matters as well in many other games for frame time consistency. Yeah if all you do is look at a average fps then yeah it may look like they preform the same but they really don't. New games are starting to use more and more threads and only having 6 of them is going to hit performance in many of them. Look at the 4 core i5s. People said the same exact thing and yet if you look at 4 core i7 vs i5 in newer games now you can clearly see that the i5s are not holding up nearly as well. If they are spending 3 grand on a pc there is no reason to buy an i5 because it will just become outdated much much sooner and already performs worse than the i7 in quite a few games. 

[pown otto]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($499.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($171.87 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card  ($1099.00) 
Case: NZXT - H700i ATX Mid Tower Case  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120mm Fan  ($31.10 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB White with Lighting Node PRO 63 CFM 120mm Fans  ($103.95 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2619.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-11 13:09 EST-0500

 

 

 

what about this new build?

[Constantin]

34 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It's not required. It's extra for OC headroom but everything would work without it (the motherboard should come with a splitter though, just in case)

Misinformed again...

 Do some research mate before posting, people need help and depend on our replies.

I have the same motherboard and it does not come with and extra adapter.

This connector is needed for overclock!  

[pown otto]

2 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Misinformed again...

 Do some research mate before posting, people need help and depend on our replies.

I have the same motherboard and it does not come with and extra adapter.

This connector is needed for overclock!  

What do you think of the new build that I posted above you? Is that mobo good?

[Constantin]

1 minute ago, pown otto said:

What do you think of the new build that I posted above you? Is that mobo good?

Yes! Even though i have an MSI mobo, i prefer Asus

[Fasauceome]

13 minutes ago, Constantin said:

Misinformed again...

 Do some research mate before posting, people need help and depend on our replies.

I have the same motherboard and it does not come with and extra adapter.

This connector is needed for overclock!  

It may not come with an adapter but your claim that the extra 4 pin is required is near impossible to do research on. What I was able to find was this video which makes no mention of requiring a 4 pin extra, and the configuration showcased featuring only an 8 pin while still overclocking makes me feel as though 8 pin EPS would be sufficient, and it would be downright irresponsible for MSI to disable overclocking should the 4 pin be lacking. Also, PCPartPicker not flagging it should be the first indication that it's perfectly fine.

[Constantin]

13 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

It may not come with an adapter but your claim that the extra 4 pin is required is near impossible to do research on. What I was able to find was this video which makes no mention of requiring a 4 pin extra, and the configuration showcased featuring only an 8 pin while still overclocking makes me feel as though 8 pin EPS would be sufficient, and it would be downright irresponsible for MSI to disable overclocking should the 4 pin be lacking. Also, PCPartPicker not flagging it should be the first indication that it's perfectly fine.

It will work just fine, i myself did not plug the extra 4 pin connector as i did not OC my system except turbo and enhanced boost.

But it is needed for over 5Ghz OC for safer stability. 

As MSI is saying!!! 

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Constantin said:

But it is needed for over 5Ghz OC for safer stability. 

As MSI is saying!!! 

Well it certainly would help with 5GHz + stability, but again, I doubt it's necessary. If OP is going for an extreme overclock then it would be nice to have but something about the build doesn't make me feel like that's the case (lower frequency ram, value oriented OC motherboard, etc)

@pown otto what is your OC target? Hopefully you get a lucky chip, my CPU does 4.6 on a nice low voltage so ideally you'll get to enjoy those nice low temps as well.

[Constantin]

3 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Well it certainly would help with 5GHz + stability, but again, I doubt it's necessary. If OP is going for an extreme overclock then it would be nice to have but something about the build doesn't make me feel like that's the case (lower frequency ram, value oriented OC motherboard, etc)

@pown otto what is your OC target? Hopefully you get a lucky chip, my CPU does 4.6 on a nice low voltage so ideally you'll get to enjoy those nice low temps as well.

He got the right anyways to be informed

My psu doesn't have a 2nd cpu connector, i would have pluged it if it has!

No matter the OC

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Constantin said:

He got the right anyways to be informed

My psu doesn't have a 2nd cpu connector, i would have pluged it if it has!

No matter the OC

Alright, well you shouldn't misinform him by saying the extra 4 pin is required

 

1 hour ago, Constantin said:

Your mobo needs 2 cpu connectors, 1x8 pin plus 1x4 pin.

The PSU on the list has only one CPU connector 1x8 pin. 

This is misinformation. The motherboard does not need 4 more pins, it can accommodate them.

Additionally, people have been able to go above 5GHz on coffee lake CPUs with only 8 pin CPU power so I wouldn't even consider it particularly helpful for an everyday OC.

[pown otto]

46 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Well it certainly would help with 5GHz + stability, but again, I doubt it's necessary. If OP is going for an extreme overclock then it would be nice to have but something about the build doesn't make me feel like that's the case (lower frequency ram, value oriented OC motherboard, etc)

@pown otto what is your OC target? Hopefully you get a lucky chip, my CPU does 4.6 on a nice low voltage so ideally you'll get to enjoy those nice low temps as well.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i9-9900K 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($499.89 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H150i PRO 47.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME Z390-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($171.87 @ Newegg Business) 
Memory: G.Skill - Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($159.00 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($134.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2080 Ti 11 GB Black Video Card  ($1099.00) 
Case: NZXT - H700i ATX Mid Tower Case  ($169.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB LED 43.25 CFM 120mm Fan  ($31.10 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120 RGB White with Lighting Node PRO 63 CFM 120mm Fans  ($103.95 @ Newegg) 
Total: $2619.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-11 13:09 EST-0500

 

 

this is the new build I’m looking at atm. I wanna try and get a solid 4.9, so you think I need a better mobo?

[Fasauceome]

3 minutes ago, pown otto said:

this is the new build I’m looking at atm. I wanna try and get a solid 4.9, so you think I need a better mobo?

The original MSI board would probably be better, the power delivery is more robust with more VRM phases.

[ch3w2oy]

2 hours ago, Constantin said:

Your mobo needs 2 cpu connectors, 1x8 pin plus 1x4 pin.

The PSU on the list has only one CPU connector 1x8 pin. 

 

1 hour ago, Constantin said:

Misinformed again...

 Do some research mate before posting, people need help and depend on our replies.

I have the same motherboard and it does not come with and extra adapter.

This connector is needed for overclock!  

You don't need the 4 pin to overclock unless you're maybe using LN2. I hate to burst your bubble. And the way you defended the 4 pin clearly lead us to believe that it was a requirement to use, which it is not. Because that mobo does not need an 8 pin AND a 4 pin with that CPU.