Asus: AMD entry level Zen motherboard pictured

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, tlink said:

The only 32 bit applications i encounter are drivers. which annoys me because its often for motherboards that support only 64 bit processors.

 

Most browsers, media players, and Windows applications are either exclusively 32bit, or the 64bit only supports more RAM.

Also, the vast majority of games are 32bit, with the only real exceptions being new triple A titles and some VR titles.

 

So when it comes down to it, 64bit was really beneficial to industrial and commercial uses that were tailored for 64bit for a long time. To the gaming and home use markets, 64bit was leveraged as a marketing tactic to get people to spend more without seeing benefits, and the same thing is happening with the phone industry.

 

Also, x86-64 processors don't care if a driver is 32bit or 64bit. Both are supported, and there are no gains going from one to the other.

[Energycore]

43 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Just a reminder that even on "high end" DVI is still not all obsolete due to Display Port?

But I didn't complain about DVI

[Fetzie]

Pictures of Gigabyte's AX370-Gaming K3 Motherboard have been released. This is a fairly low to middle class board.

 

https://www.overclock3d.net/news/cpu_mainboard/gigabyte_ax370-gaming_k3_am4_motherboard_pictured/1
 

Spoiler

 

USB 3.1 Gen2 (that's the 10Gbps version)

Support for NVMe over PCI-E 3.0 x4 on an m.2 slot
 

Spoiler

 

 

Here you can see the rear-i/o:

keyboard/mouse USB 3.0 (possibly PS/2?)

HDMI

USB 3.0

USB 3.1

Gigabit ethernet

Audio

So kind of what you'd expect, really.

 

"full frontal" picture of the board (unfortunately whoever took the photo doesn't know how to use autofocus on their camera ):
 

Spoiler

 

 

 

One fully x16 PCI-E slot, which is in the second "slot position", which will make people with larger heatsinks happy. The m.2 slot is under where the graphics card would be.

[You_are_a_cunt]

On 12/31/2016 at 1:44 AM, SamStrecker said:

Why does it have VGA, DVI, and serial connectors on it?

I also see USB 3.0 and HDMI

[Jumper118]

looks crap. no chance of putting 8 cores of fury in that thing. 

[That Norwegian Guy]

On 1.1.2017 at 5:27 PM, Drak3 said:

Also, the vast majority of games are 32bit, with the only real exceptions being new triple A titles and some VR titles.

 

So when it comes down to it, 64bit was really beneficial to industrial and commercial uses that were tailored for 64bit for a long time. To the gaming and home use markets, 64bit was leveraged as a marketing tactic to get people to spend more without seeing benefits

Multiple cases of games where 64 bit mattered. Dying Light on launch week for example, croaked unless you had around 10GB of RAM to throw at it on maximum settings due to the way the AI worked. Unfortunately they dumbed the AI down the following patch because people in the "HURR DURR 8GB IS ALWAYS GUNNA BE ENUFF" camp bitching and moaning. Space Engineers really does need and utilise its 64 bit capabilities. My server is always above 8GB even when empty. (Also not an AAA game)

 

And then there's Star Citizen, which not only has a 64 bit client, but double precision world code server side, both for believable universe size and multiple stacking of local grids (ships within ships within ships within ships and the physics of interaction) (also an indie)

[mariushm]

On 12/31/2016 at 10:05 AM, Dabombinable said:

why did they even bother adding that tiny heatsink to that section of the VRM if they don't intend to cover the other section?

 

 

The VRM is probably 4+1 or 4+2 where the +1/+2 are for auxiliary voltages or for stuff like memory controller inside the cpu, basically low power rails for the processor. The big hard working phases are under heatsink. 

Since they know no cpus would ever use more than some amount of watts (let's say 10-20 watts), they can estimate how hot the mosfets will be based on the peak power that goes through them and they know how much the PCB alone can dissipate, so it's probably safe to not have a heatsink on that section of the VRM.

[TheRandomness]

3 minutes ago, mariushm said:

The VRM is probably 4+1 or 4+2 where the +1/+2 are for auxiliary voltages or for stuff like memory controller inside the cpu, basically low power rails for the processor. The big hard working phases are under heatsink. 

Since they know no cpus would ever use more than some amount of watts (let's say 10-20 watts), they can estimate how hot the mosfets will be based on the peak power that goes through them and they know how much the PCB alone can dissipate, so it's probably safe to not have a heatsink on that section of the VRM.

It's either 4+3, 5+2 or 6+1. Most likely the first and the last options though. 

[mariushm]

On 12/31/2016 at 1:38 AM, NumLock21 said:

 

 

One inductor, pair of mosfets and their driver for each phase below ..pair of capacitors for each phase (to keep vertical height low)...  so it's probably 4+2 or 4+1 and 1 separate dc-dc converter.

It's enough considering desktop Zen cpus are rumored to be with max 95w TDP.

[Notional]

1 hour ago, mariushm said:

One inductor, pair of mosfets and their driver for each phase below ..pair of capacitors for each phase (to keep vertical height low)...  so it's probably 4+2 or 4+1 and 1 separate dc-dc converter.

It's enough considering desktop Zen cpus are rumored to be with max 95w TDP.

 

No one would buy this motherboard for a ZEN CPU. It would mostly be used for cheaper AM4 APU's.

[MyName13]

36 minutes ago, Notional said:

No one would buy this motherboard for a ZEN CPU. It would mostly be used for cheaper AM4 APU's.

A320 should be like intel's h110, your "nobody" is a huge market.

[AnonymousGuy]

I know and give Apple a lot of shit for ditching connectivity to be "forward thinking" but serial is safely one of those connectors that should never be included on any new products to force a refresh to technology from this century.

[Guest]

nice to see OC support on more than just the top tier. 

[Dabombinable]

4 hours ago, Notional said:

No one would buy this motherboard for a ZEN CPU. It would mostly be used for cheaper AM4 APU's.

When you install a high wattage CPU (eg. Xeon X5450) on a board with a 3+1 phase VRM that has no heatsinks (eg. Asus P5K VM) and it works....I'd say that this cheap AM4 motherboard would even have some overclocking headroom.

[captain cactus]

30 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

When you install a high wattage CPU (eg. Xeon X5450) on a board with a 3+1 phase VRM that has no heatsinks (eg. Asus P5K VM) and it works....I'd say that this cheap AM4 motherboard would even have some overclocking headroom.

Except this board is on the A320 chipset so no overclocking is going to happen here.

 

This is for people who really don't care about overclocking and get a Ryzen CPU that isn't unlocked (which I'm sure we'll have). Great for a budget gaming box or a HTPC.

[Sirgeorge]

Anyone have a more complete list for the AM4 boards out today or about to be out?

[captain cactus]

3 minutes ago, Sirgeorge said:

Anyone have a more complete list for the AM4 boards out today or about to be out?

We will once CES starts. Look out for the videos on the boards.

[Sirgeorge]

Oh, ya. Can't wait for CES. When do you suppose we'll be getting more info on Ryzen itself?

[captain cactus]

6 minutes ago, Sirgeorge said:

Oh, ya. Can't wait for CES. When do you suppose we'll be getting more info on Ryzen itself?

AMD has two sessions planned at CES. One is confirmed to be Vega. The other one can logically only be an announcement on when Ryzen goes live.

[Sirgeorge]

Well, they have a CPU project and a GPU project...and one of two sessions are confirmed to be about GPU...well...ya that would make sense.