AMD's 'RYZEN' Detailed - Octacore, 3.4GHz + & Dynamic Overclocking

[NumLock21]

Stream starts at 3pm CST.

Link? UK

 

[Misanthrope]

I like the CPU Boost (a.k.a. GPU Boost for CPUs) feature. If for nothing else this is already one feature intel will have to copy and even then they'll probably lock it to K chips only (because fuck you, that's why) so already there's a point for red team from the get go.

 

We need a lot more but this is certainly a brownie point towards giving Zen the vote for at least 1 generation.

[XenosTech]

4 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

I like the CPU Boost (a.k.a. GPU Boost for CPUs) feature. If for nothing else this is already one feature intel will have to copy and even then they'll probably lock it to K chips only (because fuck you, that's why) so already there's a point for red team from the get go.

 

We need a lot more but this is certainly a brownie point towards giving Zen the vote for at least 1 generation.

My curiosity is asking if this will work if you OC

[Mihle]

I am guessing the 3,4ghz+ is becaue they have something like auto overclock system.

[Misanthrope]

4 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

My curiosity is asking if this will work if you OC

From the article I saw on OC3D it seemed to imply it was either this or traditional overclocking, not both. But we'll see I guess.

[Guest Kloaked]

11 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Stream starts at 3pm CST.

Link? UK

 

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon

[XenosTech]

Just now, Misanthrope said:

From the article I saw on OC3D it seemed to imply it was either this or traditional overclocking, not both. But we'll see I guess.

ah that would make sense but it would also be pretty cool if both worked... you go do your reg OC and the CPU boosts up higher (It sounds stupid I know but still would be cool none the less)

[NumLock21]

4 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon

That's not even the stream link, thus uk.

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

That's not even the stream link, thus uk.

Pretty sure the stream is going to be embedded on that page.

[Misanthrope]

4 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

ah that would make sense but it would also be pretty cool if both worked... you go do your reg OC and the CPU boosts up higher (It sounds stupid I know but still would be cool none the less)

Well my guess would be concerns regarding power delivery: the CPU Boost will probably be able to clock up on any motherboard (and even any chipset if they decide) but will take into account how much can the power delivery on said mobo and rig in general can be pushed.

 

Whereas in a GPU the board partner designs the PCB, power delivery and cooling solution and even how much power it can potentially use so they feel users can push even more if they want to since they can account for it conservatively yet AMD probably can't predict how decent or shit is your mobo's power delivery so it's better to err on the side of caution.

[NumLock21]

2 minutes ago, Kloaked said:

Pretty sure the stream is going to be embedded on that page.

I used a throw away email to sign up and it forces you to agree, for them to send you their other updates and infos.

[XenosTech]

3 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Well my guess would be concerns regarding power delivery: the CPU Boost will probably be able to clock up on any motherboard (and even any chipset if they decide) but will take into account how much can the power delivery on said mobo and rig in general can be pushed.

 

Whereas in a GPU the board partner designs the PCB, power delivery and cooling solution and even how much power it can potentially use so they feel users can push even more if they want to since they can account for it conservatively yet AMD probably can't predict how decent or shit is your mobo's power delivery so it's better to err on the side of caution.

Ik pesky motherboard manufacturers hopefully the high end board are designed well enough to meet power requirements if these turn out to be good over clockers.

[Guest Kloaked]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

I used a throw away email to sign up and it forces you to agree, for them to send you their other updates and infos.

That's probably just to notify you that it's started. I think the video will just get embedded on that page, so no need to sign up.

[Misanthrope]

5 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

Ik pesky motherboard manufacturers hopefully the high end board are designed well enough to meet power requirements if these turn out to be good over clockers.

Well it would be a nice feature of high end boards but then again, if AMD does the detection good enough you might only get marginally better results with anything but LN2 cooling. If a high end mobo, powerful PSU and high end custom water loop combo can get your Zen chip to say, 4.7 or 4.8 all on it's own I say it's good enough to call it a day or turn it off and push your system manually into 5.0 ghz if you want without needing to run the risk of turning both on (Cause I do believe it would be a lot more complicated for AMD without testing the board in question fairly ahead of time)

 

If the CPU boost #s however are poor (same ideal set up gets you to 4.3ghz but you can manually jump to 5.0 like a huge disparity) then maybe yes let you turn on both. Depends on how aggressive or conservative the feature ends up being.

[XenosTech]

2 minutes ago, Misanthrope said:

Well it would be a nice feature of high end boards but then again, if AMD does the detection good enough you might only get marginally better results with anything but LN2 cooling. If a high end mobo, powerful PSU and high end custom water loop combo can get your Zen chip to say, 4.7 or 4.8 all on it's own I say it's good enough to call it a day or turn it off and push your system manually into 5.0 ghz if you want without needing to run the risk of turning both on (Cause I do believe it would be a lot more complicated for AMD without testing the board in question fairly ahead of time)

 

If the CPU boost #s however are poor (same ideal set up gets you to 4.3ghz but you can manually jump to 5.0 like a huge disparity) then maybe yes let you turn on both. Depends on how aggressive or conservative the feature ends up being.

I'm just hoping zen is good... I wanna give my current rig to my gf

[crystal6tak]

So AMD's CPU gets equivalent of Nvidia's GPU boost before AMD's GPU.

 

Oh what the hell 

[Phate.exe]

23 minutes ago, XenosTech said:

I'm just hoping zen is good... I wanna give my current rig to my gf

Yup, that's my plan as well.  De-suckify my custom cooling loop find a more gaming-stable overclock, add an SSD boot drive, and off you go.

[XenosTech]

3 minutes ago, Phate.exe said:

Yup, that's my plan as well.  De-suckify my custom cooling loop find a more gaming-stable overclock, add an SSD boot drive, and off you go.

I'll have to get her a new case though... she won't be gettign my Define S

[potoooooooo]

13 hours ago, Energycore said:

You're right, to an extent. Given the same TDP, more cores mean lower clocks. I'm wondering though, why Broadwell-E can't hit clocks as high as Haswell-E, even given the same core count. That seems backwards.

 

I know right? By the time of release it will beat the best Intel from 2020 and AMD will pay you for getting one. And it will overclock to 6GHz on a Hyper 212 EVO.

Die shrinks mean lower clock speed. That's why the 4790k could squeak out 5ghz but the 6700k can barely squeak out 4.8ghz

[Guest]

Time is endless

[goodtofufriday]

4 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Copy pasted from my post hope everyone is fine

 

North America

Vancouver, Reno, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas: 3pm

Edmonton, Calgary, Denver, Salt Lake city: 4pm

Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Mexico city, Kansas city, Chicago: 5pm

Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal, Quebec, New York, Washington DC, Miami: 6pm

 

 

 

 

Seems wrong? AMD posted they are presenting a 3pm CST. That equates to 4pm in New York. 

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, ONOTech said:

I thought it was 3 PM CT? Isn't that 4 PM for Ottawa through Miami and 1 PM for Vacouver through Vegas?

fuck. i messed up. fuuuuuuuck

[Notional]

6 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

Europe

London, Reykjavik, Dublin: 11pm same day

Paris, Rome, Madrid, Berlin, Brussels, Amsterdam: 12am (midnight) December 14

Athens, Riga, Kiev, Bucharest: 1am December 14

Istanbul, Moscow: 2am December 14

 

It's on 4 hours and 15 minutes from now. That would make it 22 (10 pm) in Paris, Rome, etc. So 21 (9 pm) in London, etc.

[ThinkWithPortals]

I reckon Ryzen is a pretty clever name, if it's pronounced "Risen". Zen is in the name, and "Risen" implies that this is what will make AMD rise again. Pretty nice.

[Guest]

Updated with the correct time

North America

Vancouver, Reno, Seattle, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Las Vegas: 1pm

Edmonton, Calgary, Denver, Salt Lake city: 2pm

Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Regina, Mexico city, Kansas city, Chicago: 3pm

Ottawa, Toronto, Montreal, Quebec, New York, Washington DC, Miami: 4pm

 

Central America aka Captain Jack Sparrow's home and South America

Havana, Nassau, Port-Au-Prince, Lima, Panama: 6pm

Santo Domingo, La Paz: 7pm

Buenos Aires, Santiago: 8pm

Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paolo: 9pm

 

Europe

London, Reykjavik, Dublin: 9pm

Paris, Rome, Madrid, Berlin, Brussels, Amsterdam: 10pm

Athens, Riga, Kiev, Bucharest: 11pm

Istanbul, Moscow: 12am December 14

 

Africa:

Casablanca: 9pm

Lagos: 10pm

Cairo, Cape Town: 11pm

Mogadishu: 12am December 14

 

Asia

Karachi: 2am December 14

Delhi, Mumbai: 2:30am December 14

Jakarta, Bangkok: 4am December 14

Hong Kong, Beijing, Manila: 5am December 14

Tokyo: 6am December 14

 

Down under

Perth: 5am December 14

Darwin, Adelaide: 6:30am December 14

Brisbane: 7am December 14

Sydney, Canberra, Melbourne: 8am December 14

Wellington: 10pm December 14

 

See if your city is missing (don't tell me you live in some rural region and demands to be in here)