Razer Core Deep Dive

[nicklmg]

Amazon: http://geni.us/PJq5

 

We scratched the surface with our Razer Core review a few weeks back... Now let's take a closer look at what it can actually do!

 

 

[themctipers]

razer - please do the same for a cpu socket so i can do this with my core duo

 

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

"CAN IT HANDEL THE BIGGEST HOTTEST GRAPHICS CARDS ON THE MARKET" He picks up the 6990 while the GTX 480 is on the table. 

 

[nicklmg]

6 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

"CAN IT HANDEL THE BIGGEST HOTTEST GRAPHICS CARDS ON THE MARKET" He picks up the 6990 while the GTX 480 is on the table. 

 

You must have missed the part at 2:05 when he calls the GTX 480 "one of the hottest, most power-hungry cards ever made."

That or you're trolling, in which case carry on.

[LeapFrogMasterRace]

2 minutes ago, nicklmg said:

You must have missed the part at 2:05 when he calls the GTX 480 "one of the hottest, most power-hungry cards ever made."

That or you're trolling, in which case carry on.

So making a joke is considered trolling now? 

[nicklmg]

2 minutes ago, LeapFrogMasterRace said:

So making a joke is considered trolling now? 

Haha sorry I use those words relatively interchangeably. My bad.
 

Nah not at all, the rocksalt is just too palpable with some people who LEGITIMATELY call the "Nvidia shill" card all the time, and it's always tough to perceive sarcasm through text

[Daniel644]

Still looks like it makes much more sense to just build a dang desktop for home use, you can do a fairly decent desktop for the price of this thing once you factor out the video card costs, since you'll have that cost either way.

[dragoon20005]

500 USD for a Thunderbolt Casing which supports GPU and what Linus have tested other PCI-E cards

 

is a huge pill to swallow

 

I do hope that similar products will be coming soon to drive down the cost

 

Razer support has always been bad.

 

RMA even a Razor mouse take ages to get back to me

[fahad_alsabah]

1 hour ago, nicklmg said:

Amazon: http://geni.us/PJq5

 

We scratched the surface with our Razer Core review a few weeks back... Now let's take a closer look at what it can actually do!

 

 

Hello, I saw your video reviewing the mis gt80 titan which had 2 980m in sli I would really like to hear your opinions about the gt80s which has 2 desktop 980s in sli and a 6950 mobile i7 processor.

[zMeul]

the most interesting video from LTT in months

[Hans Power]

My biggest complaint about the LTT channel always was the superficiality and lack of detail in many if not most reviews. This is why this video makes me very happy and I really hope that you'll continue with this deep dive approach!

[Kosak]

can I use Razer Core with my MBPr? obviously on windows in bootcamp, but still

 

L-Linus?

[suicidalfranco]

Does it work with laptops that have TB1 or TB2?

[fueg]

5 hours ago, Kosak said:

can I use Razer Core with my MBPr? obviously on windows in bootcamp, but still

 

L-Linus?

It might work on a mac... 

 

This is from 2013:

http://hackaday.com/2013/07/31/a-macbook-air-and-a-thunderbolt-gpu/

 

 

[Flumek]

5 hours ago, Kosak said:

can I use Razer Core with my MBPr? obviously on windows in bootcamp, but still

 

L-Linus?

Techinferno forums.

Check those out. You cannot use the usbC-TB3(40gps) with a regular usbC or TB2 or TB1 port.

You probably have a thunderbolt2(20gps) macbook, for which the most popular eGPU setup was with the akitio thunder2 box for 200$. Im currently wavering in buying a cheap as possible TB2 retina macbook, the RazerCore i was considering for its higher speed thus lasting for one future gpu upgrade + ETHERNET.

[Hunter259]

Linus why did you say Apple is years away from this? This has been a thing on Apple notebooks since the introduction of Thunderbolt and devices that can hold pcie express slots. This just so happens to be the first real product that is made for what the community has been hacking together for years.

[DXMember]

!!!!!!!!!!

 

Those 480GTX and HD6990 cards !!!!

VINTAGE!!!

so cool, that's for nostalgia, that's so awesome ))))

[knightslugger]

5 minutes ago, DXMember said:

!!!!!!!!!!

 

Those 480GTX and HD6990 cards !!!!

VINTAGE!!!

so cool, that's for nostalgia, that's so awesome ))))

If Vintage = 2011.

 

does 1985 = mythical?

[Streetguru]

Wait, you didn't answer if AMD or Nvidia matters, the only AMD card tested seemed to be that 6990

[DXMember]

Just now, knightslugger said:

If Vintage = 2011.

 

does 1985 = mythical?

man... like half the forums wasn't even born yet

[DXMember]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Wait, you didn't answer if AMD or Nvidia matters, the only AMD card tested seemed to be that 6990

I thought he said HD6990 didn't install drivers

[Streetguru]

5 minutes ago, DXMember said:

I thought he said HD6990 didn't install drivers

Not sure an ancient dual GPU card is entirely relevant vs their more modern GPUs, also I don't know if the legacy drivers for the 6990 has XConnect in them

 

AMD has shown it working, but that's AMD in probably a best case scenario

 

[Flumek]

Hello.

I wanted to add an email I recieved today from AKITIO about their future TB3 eGPU setup.

 

Quote

" Hi, -----, Thanks for your interests with Akitio's products. Neither Thunder2 or Thunder3 PCIe Box was designed for the eGPU application. This was the reason why we explicitly said in the press release and our web site that eGPU is not supported. In order to support eGPU, there would be more requirements such as larger power supply, bigger enclosure, thermal solution, and others. We are indeed developing a eGFX box to take all these into consideration. Before it is available (probably in Q4 this year), please consider the Thunderbolt 3 HDK (http://www.inxtron.com/products/thunderbolt3-hdk) which is a DIY kit to explore your desired applications. Regards, wen"

So the TB3->PCIE adapter is 280$.  ....(for DIY individuals/developers atm)

Its new tech so hopefully prices will drop with mass production and apples 2016 macbooks are rumored to be all USBC so more mainstream.

[Flumek]

Hello.

It may be a nooby and bit offtopic question but ive never actually built a PC myself yet. Ive looked into a lot of eGPU possiblities recently.

 

My question is - Can you make a Desktop + Laptop hybrid combo? Or specifically can I build a desktop that uses its muscles on a laptops harddrive?

 

The main advantage of a eGPU means NO 2 SYSTEMS TO ALWAYS COPY. (ex. I game and work till latenight, press CTRL+S and go to bed...NOPE, I need to copy the new file to laptop if i want to use it in school morning....not to mention maintaing all programs and their settings on 2 different machines...its just a hassle)

 

a) ive seen bootable portable SSD that you just plug into laptops USB 3.0...so you swap your portable bootdrive between the 2 machines...

Are there bottlenecks on the desktop with those? It also seems like another altough smaller hassle, you can lose or forget your whole system and it takes up a USB slot on the ultrabook.

 

b) Is there a possiblity to have such a bootdrive IN THE laptop?

Im thinking basically of a externalGPU setup, but instead of a razerCore im just building a full desktop. The dream would be running both desktops CPU and GPU and having the laptop not neccesary plug&play but at least it working standalone with all its already few ports.

Dont care if its expensive. Or is above optionA as far as its possible atm?

[riklaunim]

Not so long ago quick tests with connecting to XPS 15 were unstable/useless. Maybe with some TB3 firmware force updates it will work, but still that's a unsupported feature from both vendors.

 

IMHO TB3 eGPU is to much vendor locked to be viable now. ExpressCard/M2/mPCIe eGPU solutions showed up without any certifications and licenses - cheap and seems to be working. MSI and Alienware have some of their own solutions - bit cheaper than TB3. Alienware seems bit more mature, while gen 2 laptops for MSI aren't AFAIK released yet. MSI GS30 with their dock costs like crazy (can be more than Alienware with 980m and GA), where as laptop has many gen 1 issues.

 

GPU lockdown is in laptop maker favour (forcing to buy a new one). If laptops would commonly use MXM for GPU and without any BIOS/firmware locks it would be way easier and there would be no needs for measly TB3 eGPU. Now even if a gaming laptop has MXM GPU there is no guarantee that the vendor will want to support newer cards (there was  a case where Clevo pretty much ... very hard owners of few of their quite new models refusing to support Maxwell GPUs that were released months after those laptops - yet custom BIOS hacked in would easily support them AFAIK).