Any good cheap pc fans?

[Yashiees]

Theres so many, but I dont know which ones good and I dont know how many fans i'll need.

 

this partpicker is subject to change after the new stuff gets released. but this is my current loadout

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	£153.47 @ Amazon UK
Thermal Compound	Noctua NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste	£7.20 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	£144.95 @ AWD-IT
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£60.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital SN750 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£52.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£51.70 @ CCL Computers
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	£479.98 @ AWD-IT
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	£63.31 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£89.99 @ Currys PC World
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1104.58
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-18 19:15 BST+0100

 

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, BlueScope819 said:

Good on you for waiting for the new stuff to get released. Thermal paste comes preapplied to the stock cooler, so there is no need to spend the 7 pounds on extra. I would also recommend a B450 Tomahawk MAX instead of a B550 board because it will work with the next gen of CPUs without problem. The biggest thing I see is that you really should get a 500gb M.2 SSD as that will fill up very fast. Otherwise, good on the list.

 

To answer your question about fans: There isn't really any noticeable difference as long as you have some airflow. Your case probably comes with two fans preinstalled, you won't notice a difference between 2 and 3 fans, or even 4.

comes with 1 fan

 

Some experienced users in the cases section told me to go for a p300a or a p400a (i had chosen fractal design g)

 

and im choosing b550 cause of future proof and i can upgrade my cpu later on in the years. Idk if its worth changing to a b450.

 

also i cant find a good decently cheap 500gb m.2 ssd

[Oswin]

whats your budget? 

[Oswin]

3 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

 

also i cant find a good decently cheap 500gb m.2 ssd

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/xpYLrH/crucial-p1-500gb-m2-2280-solid-state-drive-ct500p1ssd8

 

this may be an option 

[DailyProcrastinator]

14 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

Theres so many, but I dont know which ones good and I dont know how many fans i'll need.

These are good, and they are PWM.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Kpprxr/arctic-f12-pwm-pst-530-cfm-120mm-fan-afaco-120p0-gba01

 

Otherwise I'd wait to build, and 2070S is a good GPU but is a few months away from being replaced by Nvidias RTX 3xxx series.

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

These are good, and they are PWM.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Kpprxr/arctic-f12-pwm-pst-530-cfm-120mm-fan-afaco-120p0-gba01

 

Otherwise I'd wait to build, and 2070S is a good GPU but is a few months away from being replaced by Nvidias RTX 3xxx series.

Any decent rgb ones? my whole setup has 0 rgb and I kinda like a bit of aesthetics. BUT

 

I dont mind the fans you've sent me. But any option for some rgb ones? (I dont mind it being rgb or anything just curious to see good prices for rgb ones)

[Demonic Donut]

4 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

Any decent rgb ones? my whole setup has 0 rgb and I kinda like a bit of aesthetics. BUT

 

I dont mind the fans you've sent me. But any option for some rgb ones? (I dont mind it being rgb or anything just curious to see good prices for rgb ones)

Arctic F12s and P12s are cheap and compete with expensive fans like Noctua and beQuiet. I can get a 5 pack of P12s for the cost of one Noctua A12 on Amazon. The Noctua redux line of fans are a good cheapish option too.

 

I recommend looking into rgb fan rings and strip lighting to add some light to your case.

[DailyProcrastinator]

4 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

Any decent rgb ones? my whole setup has 0 rgb and I kinda like a bit of aesthetics. BUT

 

I dont mind the fans you've sent me. But any option for some rgb ones? (I dont mind it being rgb or anything just curious to see good prices for rgb ones)

This is a 5-pack, I've used these fans and for the price they are good.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zFVD4D/deepcool-rf120m-565-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-rf120m

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, TheDailyProcrastinator said:

This is a 5-pack, I've used these fans and for the price they are good.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/zFVD4D/deepcool-rf120m-565-cfm-120-mm-fans-5-pack-rf120m

they're nice but 5 fans?! I'll only need 2 fans! but do they come with a remote?

[Bombastinator]

28 minutes ago, BlueScope819 said:

Good on you for waiting for the new stuff to get released. Thermal paste comes preapplied to the stock cooler, so there is no need to spend the 7 pounds on extra. I would also recommend a B450 Tomahawk MAX instead of a B550 board because it will work with the next gen of CPUs without problem. The biggest thing I see is that you really should get a 500gb M.2 SSD as that will fill up very fast. Otherwise, good on the list.

 

To answer your question about fans: There isn't really any noticeable difference as long as you have some airflow. Your case probably comes with two fans preinstalled, you won't notice a difference between 2 and 3 fans, or even 4.

You may be correct.  B550 is potentially more upgradable than b450.  It becomes a question of future usability.  B550 has very little in the way of “useful right now” features outside of a few ports, and it tends to cost more.  A value judgement for the OP. 

 

22 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

comes with 1 fan

 

Some experienced users in the cases section told me to go for a p300a or a p400a (i had chosen fractal design g)

 

and im choosing b550 cause of future proof and i can upgrade my cpu later on in the years. Idk if its worth changing to a b450.

 

also i cant find a good decently cheap 500gb m.2 ssd

Bright side m.2 still does little for gaming.  A big SATA main drive can be used as a storage drive later if things change.

 

i can speak generally about fan cheapness.  
 

sleeve bearing fans work reasonably well and are cheap and extremely quiet (until they wear).  They have a major achellies heel though:  if they are face either up or down they wear out really fast.

 

One bearing fans (example AMD cooler stock fans) are louder than sleeve and wear out generally faster.  They can be put in a single up or down orientation according to their design but not both

 

two bearing fans are like one bearing fans but have a bearing at both ends.  A cheap solution for up/down stuff

 

3 bearing fans work differently than one or two. They have 3 bearings in a triangle in the center. They are expensive and pretty long life.  They’re not very quiet even when new though.  Generally only industrial fans have this system. Mostly replaced by modified rifle.

 

rifle and modified rifle:

a sleeve bearing fan with a spiral groove cut in the sleeve to distribute lubricant.  Modified rifle has microscopic ridges on the barrel as well to distribute lubricant more.  Most expensive fans are variants of this type.  Long lasting, quiet, and can be put in any orientation.

 

enlobal/magnetic/maglev

no lubricant or bearings at all because the spindle is magnetically levitated so it doesn’t touch anything.  Longest lasting and Most expensive.  For one thing they must be very very carefully balanced. 
 

My general suggestion would be to look at arctic cooling.  They do cheap and their LLS bearing is a modified rifle bearing.  Failing that sleeve for vertical mount case fans and 2bearing for top or bottom.

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

You may be correct.  B550 is potentially more upgradable than b450.  It becomes a question of future usability.  B550 has very little in the way of “useful right now” features outside of a few ports, and it tends to cost more.  A value judgement for the OP. 

 

Bright side m.2 still does little for gaming.  A big SATA main drive can be used as a storage drive later if things change.

Yeah I'm on the storage device section, they've told me to go for a wdblack or samsungevo but i moved the ssd talk there.

 

I'll opt in for a b450 mobo. 

[DailyProcrastinator]

11 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

they're nice but 5 fans?! I'll only need 2 fans! but do they come with a remote?

They also come in a 3-pack or individually, the multi packs are the best buy in terms of $/fan. They attach to the motherboards RGB header and are controlled that way, remotes are sh!t IMO.

[narrdarr]

so after reading through the thread:

Nice build

would agree with an SSD it will make for a better overall experience better even if it is just a small one to put windows on and basic apps

agree you don't need to buy paste.

You'll be way happier with the p300a over the design g

the arctic p12 fan are a great fan

 

Your concerns with RGB:

when you say RGB i assume you want to be able to control the lighting. With that in mind. Your not going to truely get what you want on the cheap. maybe Aigo might be within the budget.  But you could get some RGB ram that will bring a nice flare to your build without extra cost.

 

16 minutes ago, Bombastinator said:

You may be correct.  B550 is potentially more upgradable than b450.  It becomes a question of future usability.  B550 has very little in the way of “useful right now” features outside of a few ports, and it tends to cost more.  A value judgement for the OP. 

 

Bright side m.2 still does little for gaming.  A big SATA main drive can be used as a storage drive later if things change.

I do agree you

However

the p1 is good reliable ssd drive at a decent price for 500gb. It just happens to be m.2

 

A more fitting ssd for the budget would be the Crucial BX500 120gb at least have windows and some apps or fav game on it

 

 

 

 

7 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

Yeah I'm on the storage device section, they've told me to go for a wdblack or samsungevo but i moved the ssd talk there.

 

I'll opt in for a b450 mobo. 

OP What is the total budget for your build?

 

I think the threads should be combined and moved to new builds & planning

[Bombastinator]

9 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

Yeah I'm on the storage device section, they've told me to go for a wdblack or samsungevo but i moved the ssd talk there.

 

I'll opt in for a b450 mobo. 

Only issue with b450 is while it has multiple pcie slots actually using more than one is very likely to cause future problems, and as systems age and port types change it can become limiting.  Simple solution is just to buy a more capable motherboard along with a cpu upgrade.  It’s about what you want to spend when.  Totally a value judgement.  I updated that post btw with what I know about fans.  Might be useful might not.

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

You may be correct.  B550 is potentially more upgradable than b450.  It becomes a question of future usability.  B550 has very little in the way of “useful right now” features outside of a few ports, and it tends to cost more.  A value judgement for the OP. 

 

Bright side m.2 still does little for gaming.  A big SATA main drive can be used as a storage drive later if things change.

 

i can speak generally about fan cheapness.  
 

sleeve bearing fans work reasonably well and are cheap and extremely quiet (until they wear).  They have a major achellies heel though:  if they are face either up or down they wear out really fast.

 

One bearing fans (example AMD cooler stock fans) are louder than sleeve and wear out generally faster.  They can be put in a single up or down orientation according to their design but not both

 

two bearing fans are like one bearing fans but have a bearing at both ends.  A cheap solution for up/down stuff

 

3 bearing fans work differently than one or two. They have 3 bearings in a triangle in the center. They are expensive and pretty long life.  They’re not very quiet even when new though.  Generally only industrial fans have this system. Mostly replaced by modified rifle.

 

rifle and modified rifle:

a sleeve bearing fan with a spiral groove cut in the sleeve to distribute lubricant.  Modified rifle has microscopic ridges on the barrel as well to distribute lubricant more.  Most expensive fans are variants of this type.  Long lasting, quiet, and can be put in any orientation.

 

enlobal/magnetic/maglev

no lubricant or bearings at all because the spindle is magnetically levitated so it doesn’t touch anything.  Longest lasting and Most expensive.  For one thing they must be very very carefully balanced. 
 

My general suggestion would be to look at arctic cooling.  They do cheap and their LLS bearing is a modified rifle bearing.  Failing that sleeve for vertical mount case fans and 2bearing for top or bottom.

Thank you so much, Would this work out then? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-F12-Standard-Configuration-possible/dp/B002KTVFTE/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+cooling+fans&qid=1595099554&s=computers&sr=1-2

 

(seen your edit)

[Bombastinator]

9 minutes ago, Yashiees said:

Thank you so much, Would this work out then? https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-F12-Standard-Configuration-possible/dp/B002KTVFTE/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=arctic+cooling+fans&qid=1595099554&s=computers&sr=1-2

 

(seen your edit)

Yep.  Even as up/down.  FDB is modified rifle  Blade shape indicates not a lot of static pressure.  Your case is pretty direct flow though.  Wouldn’t work well as an AIO fan but fine as a case fan.

[narrdarr]

Doh just realized that this a euro build 

You may want to know the Kaza KZ05 case is on sale for 30$. the p300a is killer, but at 1/3 the cost the kaze kz05 will open up your budget a bit.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kaza-KZ05-Gaming-Acrylic-Panel/dp/B08428FTXX/ref=sr_1_31?dchild=1&keywords=pc case&qid=1595009190&s=computers&sr=1-31&tag=linustechtips-21

 

 

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, narrdarr said:

Doh just realized that this a euro build 

You may want to know the Kaza KZ05 case is on sale for 30$. the p300a is killer, but at 1/3 the cost the kaze kz05 will open up your budget a bit.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kaza-KZ05-Gaming-Acrylic-Panel/dp/B08428FTXX/ref=sr_1_31?dchild=1&keywords=pc case&qid=1595009190&s=computers&sr=1-31&tag=linustechtips-21

 

 

ooo, I'm checking it out. I've seen this case before but no one has said anything about it. I was only told to go for a p300a or a p400a

[Yashiees]

1 hour ago, Bombastinator said:

Yep.  Even as up/down.  Blade shape indicates not a lot of static pressure.  Your case is pretty direct flow though.  Wouldn’t work well as an AIO fan but fine as a case fan.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Accelero-Xtreme-IV-Compatible/dp/B00HHMJIIO/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&qid=1595100292&refinements=p_89%3AArctic&s=computers&sr=1-14 

 

would this be good?

[narrdarr]

Just now, Yashiees said:

ooo, I'm checking it out. I've seen this case before but no one has said anything about it. I was only told to go for a p300a or a p400a

a lot of case have been out of stock so the p300a and p400a have been solid go to's for budget airflow options.

 

the kz05 is an acrylic side panel. easy to scratch.. is it biggest downfall.

[narrdarr]

1 minute ago, Yashiees said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Accelero-Xtreme-IV-Compatible/dp/B00HHMJIIO/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&qid=1595100292&refinements=p_89%3AArctic&s=computers&sr=1-14 

 

would this be good?

thats gpu cooler and you wont need that. you money is better placed elsewhere

[Bombastinator]

1 hour ago, Yashiees said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ARCTIC-Accelero-Xtreme-IV-Compatible/dp/B00HHMJIIO/ref=sr_1_14?dchild=1&qid=1595100292&refinements=p_89%3AArctic&s=computers&sr=1-14 

 

would this be good?

It’s famously huge.  Useful mostly if a gpu doesn’t have a cooler. Generally it’s cheaper to buy a gpu with a cooler that can be set specifically for that card.  That cooler is  generic and this has some issues.  If you’re buying a gpu new it will have a cooler already.

[Yashiees]

15 hours ago, Bombastinator said:

It’s famously huge.  Useful mostly if a gpu doesn’t have a cooler. Generally it’s cheaper to buy a gpu with a cooler that can be set specifically for that card.  That cooler is  generic and this has some issues.  If you’re buying a gpu new it will have a cooler already.

Ah okay!

 

I'll stick with the stock amd cooler with some artic fans

[moisessnipes]

On 7/18/2020 at 2:15 PM, Yashiees said:

Theres so many, but I dont know which ones good and I dont know how many fans i'll need.

 

this partpicker is subject to change after the new stuff gets released. but this is my current loadout

 

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	£153.47 @ Amazon UK
Thermal Compound	Noctua NT-H1 3.5 g Thermal Paste	£7.20 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard	MSI B550-A PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard	£144.95 @ AWD-IT
Memory	Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory	£60.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Western Digital SN750 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive	£52.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage	Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	£51.70 @ CCL Computers
Video Card	Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card	£479.98 @ AWD-IT
Case	Phanteks Eclipse P300A Mesh ATX Mid Tower Case	£63.31 @ Overclockers.co.uk
Power Supply	Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply	£89.99 @ Currys PC World
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	£1104.58
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-07-18 19:15 BST+0100

 

I have made a post on what setup to buy and i was told to go for the 570 boards or wait for the B550, the B550 mobo came out and i bought using it atm and its great plus side on B550's they are new and supports 3rd gen and futere gens of ryzen out the box my build is 

Ryzen 5 3600, asus b550 tuff, 32gb Gskill 266ghz, seasonic 750 plat 80+, 1Tb hdd and an old GT610 

I will buy the noctua nf12 cpu cooler but I am here for the CASE cooler thought that was ur questio  and i am also looking for it xD. Ur build is better than mine bro

 

How manny fans? 4+ is more than enough IMHO

[Yashiees]

10 hours ago, moisessnipes said:

I have made a post on what setup to buy and i was told to go for the 570 boards or wait for the B550, the B550 mobo came out and i bought using it atm and its great plus side on B550's they are new and supports 3rd gen and futere gens of ryzen out the box my build is 

Ryzen 5 3600, asus b550 tuff, 32gb Gskill 266ghz, seasonic 750 plat 80+, 1Tb hdd and an old GT610 

I will buy the noctua nf12 cpu cooler but I am here for the CASE cooler thought that was ur questio  and i am also looking for it xD. Ur build is better than mine bro

 

How manny fans? 4+ is more than enough IMHO

4+? I think you may only need 4 fans, Here watch this :