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Posted · Original PosterOP

Found a pretty good deal on a used half-built PC for $190 USD, with a catch.

 

250 GB Samsung 850 EVO
CX650M corsair power supply (Unsure if gray or green label)
Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler
MSI GTX970 4GB
Strix Z270e motherboard
1x8gb DDR4-2400Mhz

 

BUT he said that the motherboard might not work. He tried booting it with a 7700K and it didn't POST. He blamed it on a missing chip on the motherboard, but I think it might just be user error. Looking at pics of the motherboard, it looks like everything is there.

https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-STRIX-Z270E-GAMING/

 

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So, for $190 USD would you buy it?


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I'm banking on the fact that he's not too experienced in PC-building (he told me he gave up on this system and decided to buy prebuilt), so maybe the motherboard is fine and he just forgot to connect something.


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well looking at the GPU alone thats worth £110 

 

i would personally look at the components that he has price them up and see if it is worth it in terms of if one thing is broken are you at a loss really?

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4 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

I'm banking on the fact that he's not too experienced in PC-building (he told me he gave up on this system and decided to buy prebuilt), so maybe the motherboard is fine and he just forgot to connect something.

I think it's a decent buy, and it's a lot of parts for significantly less than the usual. If the mobo is bad, it shouldn't be too hard to replace it since everything else was so cheap. Just my two cents.

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Ehhh. Maybe for like $125. Not $190. If the motherboard isn't good, you're left with a GPU, PSU and an SSD. The cooler really holds no value.


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5 minutes ago, RadiatingLight said:

Found a pretty good deal on a used half-built PC for $190 USD, with a catch.

 

250 GB Samsung 850 EVO
CX650M corsair power supply (Unsure if gray or green label)
Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler
MSI GTX970 4GB
Strix Z270e motherboard
1x8gb DDR4-2400Mhz

 

So, for $190 USD would you buy it?

No CPU or case?

 

Basically you'r looking at:

SSD: no value to me, but probably 30-40 USD value?

PSU: depends on model. Grey label: 30 USD value. Green label: no value to me.

Cooler: no value - 10 USD

Videocard: sells between 80 and 100 USD on eBay

8GB DDR4: 20 USD value

 

Motherboard: between 50 and 100 USD value, if working.

 

So that's 190 USD in other stuff if working, and potentially another 50 - 100 USD value in the motherboard if it works. 

So it's not a steal of a deal, especially when there is uncertainty on not only the motherboard, but all the other components too. 

 

I wouldn't go for it, unless you got it for less.


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1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Ehhh. Maybe for like $125. Not $190. If the motherboard isn't good, you're left with a GPU, PSU and an SSD. The cooler really holds no value.

thinking of "from new" its $35 in micro center

 

as for the rest 860 evo same capacity $61.99

PSU $79.99

(nothing on micro center for the gpu ebay has it for $100)

ram ~$30 

 

about $306 so yeah its a steal

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6 minutes ago, minibois said:

No CPU or case?

No CPU, but it does come in the generic corsair case.


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5 minutes ago, quickhakker said:

thinking of "from new" its $35 in micro center

 

as for the rest 860 evo same capacity $61.99

PSU $79.99

(nothing on micro center for the gpu ebay has it for $100)

ram ~$30 

 

about $306 so yeah its a steal

Uhhhh no. An 860 512GB is $59. SSD is worth maybe $30 new, $15/$20 used.

PSU lacks a warranty, and used is worth maybe $45.

You can get a GTX 1070 pretty easily on eBay for $100. A GTX $970 is worth maybe $50 - $60.

Price is right for the RAM...but it's an undesirable speed.

 

So, used, it's worth maybe $120ish. Motherboard holds no value since it's condition is in question.

 


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Uhhhh no. An 860 512GB is $59. SSD is worth maybe $30 new, $15/$20 used.

PSU lacks a warranty, and used is worth maybe $45.

You can get a GTX 1070 pretty easily on eBay for $100. A GTX $970 is worth maybe $50 - $60.

Price is right for the RAM...but it's an undesirable speed.

 

So, used, it's worth maybe $120ish. Motherboard holds no value since it's condition is in question.

 

im looking at the exact parts $100 msi gpu the rest of the components were if he wanted to buy the stuff as new, left mobo out for the same reason you did

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1 minute ago, quickhakker said:

im looking at the exact parts $100 msi gpu the rest of the components were if he wanted to buy the stuff as new, left mobo out for the same reason you did

A very foolish way to value used hardware. If you can get comparable stuff for less, then the value of the used stuff really isn't there.

You're not getting any of the value adds that you do new when purchasing from the big brands, namely warranty.

 

That said, if that's the way you value used hardware, you're the demographic I love selling to ?


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My price breakdown of the parts is as follows:

GTX 970: $90

SSD: $30

Power Supply: $40

RAM: $20

CPU Cooler: $10

Case: $20 (It comes in a generic black box case, he says it's corsair)

 

so worth $210 total.

 

Thoughts?


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My price breakdown of the parts is as follows:

GTX 970: $90

SSD: $30

Power Supply: $40

RAM: $20

CPU Cooler: $0

Case: $20

 

Seems just barely worth the price.


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1 hour ago, dizmo said:

A very foolish way to value used hardware. If you can get comparable stuff for less, then the value of the used stuff really isn't there.

You're not getting any of the value adds that you do new when purchasing from the big brands, namely warranty.

 

That said, if that's the way you value used hardware, you're the demographic I love selling to ?

that was only a half arsed google, if i wanted to i would have looked on more sites other than ebay, but £110 was the only other for that exact card, yes you can find cheaper and easier but again, quick googles

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5 minutes ago, quickhakker said:

that was only a half arsed google, if i wanted to i would have looked on more sites other than ebay, but £110 was the only other for that exact card, yes you can find cheaper and easier but again, quick googles

That's not an excuse. Don't make recommendations if you're just going to half-ass it.


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On 2/23/2020 at 3:52 PM, quickhakker said:

that was only a half arsed google, if i wanted to i would have looked on more sites other than ebay, but £110 was the only other for that exact card, yes you can find cheaper and easier but again, quick googles

That's the thing though you don't look for that exact model, when you can get newer cards that perform better for less. 


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5 hours ago, dizmo said:

That's the thing though you don't look for that exact model, when you can get newer cards that perform better for less. 

i looked at the MSI version of the card on ebay and found $100 being the cheapest

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1 hour ago, quickhakker said:

i looked at the MSI version of the card on ebay and found $100 being the cheapest

You're still not getting the point. A GTX 1060, for example, even on eBay, which is one of the worst places to buy used hardware, is well under $100.


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Could the "missing chip" on the motherboard be a broken trace instead? I mean, it looks like something has fallen on that area, with a sharp corner or something hitting the PCB?

Other than that, I have zero clue... pricing seems good to me, but I'm also from DK where used hardware is F***ing expensive... 

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I would need a hi-res picture, but there seems to reside a capacitor (or so) on the very location, and it is missing on the above picture. I don't think it will work unless this part has been substituted.

 

So, unless you're actually going to use the parts that are o.k. - excluding the mainboard from any calculations anyway - I wouldn't recommend buying it. 

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1 hour ago, Sir0Tek said:

I would need a hi-res picture, but there seems to reside a capacitor (or so) on the very location, and it is missing on the above picture. I don't think it will work unless this part has been substituted.

 

So, unless you're actually going to use the parts that are o.k. - excluding the mainboard from any calculations anyway - I wouldn't recommend buying it. 

I ended up purchasing the system, brought the price down to $150. and it seems fine. Motherboard POSTs :)

Still some fuckery going on with the motherboard (only half the rear USB ports work for some reason) but it is functional.


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1 hour ago, RadiatingLight said:

I ended up purchasing the system, brought the price down to $150. and it seems fine. Motherboard POSTs :)

Still some fuckery going on with the motherboard (only half the rear USB ports work for some reason) but it is functional.

Sounds nice so far. Can you test if these ports are powered? 

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On 2/23/2020 at 10:08 PM, RadiatingLight said:

Found a pretty good deal on a used half-built PC for $190 USD, with a catch.

 

250 GB Samsung 850 EVO
CX650M corsair power supply (Unsure if gray or green label)
Hyper 212 Evo CPU cooler
MSI GTX970 4GB
Strix Z270e motherboard
1x8gb DDR4-2400Mhz

 

BUT he said that the motherboard might not work. He tried booting it with a 7700K and it didn't POST. He blamed it on a missing chip on the motherboard, but I think it might just be user error. Looking at pics of the motherboard, it looks like everything is there.

https://www.asus.com/us/ROG-Republic-Of-Gamers/ROG-STRIX-Z270E-GAMING/

 

68a1b284-eacf-4293-9c07-5c4ab99ffd2f.thumb.jpg.eb10ceeaefd61ea806555f7922905ce9.jpg

 

 

So, for $190 USD would you buy it?

I'd say the parts in there are worth around 190$ yes, but 150 would be an even better deal. Also you should ask him if he checked that the GPU works

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