-ENDED- AMD Next Horizon Gaming E3 2019 Live Thread

[Oalei]

1 minute ago, yolosnail said:

Well, he also keeps hinting at the 16 core coming so idk if he knows something

im gonna go to sleep again good thing i wake up at the time for ryzen CPU, its freaking 5am i dont want to be productive

[BigDamn]

1 minute ago, TetraSky said:

Come on now, that's basically standard for references cards. It's only since this generation that nvidia decided to add a second fan.

 

Not to mention, they have their places in plenty of systems.

Agreed, but this makes the price a bit misleading. Most people will go for an AIB card, which will be a bit pricey. Not seeing the value prospect here.... and this is after seeing AMD's numbers...

[BigDamn]

1 more year until Intel GPU's.... 1 more year

[ApolloFury]

1 minute ago, porina said:

That wasn't a resolution problem but a contrast problem. Why not create the asset with more contrast to start with?

 When you compress a game asset the contrast goes down slightly due to DXT compression and/or downscaling (i.e. original 8K texture to 1K). In Unity I use very small amount sharpening filtering when I create my games to bring back some detail.

[thorhammerz]

Were people expecting a blowout miracle from AMD today?

[melete]

Just now, thorhammerz said:

Were people expecting a blowout miracle from AMD today?

I was expecting a 2070 competitor at 2070 prices. This seems to be that.

[ThotChopsticks]

3 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

 

 

ugh, we're going down this argument again, AMD? try introducing realtime raytracing at 120fps on the get go then. you know it to be impossible with today's methods. don't knock on people who are pushing the envelope here.

 

this round goes to nvidia again. can't wait to see if it'll do DX12 DXR (and if it does, how fast can it do vs the 2070)

"You know it to be impossible with today's methods" is the whole point of them making this statement???

 

Frankly, the round doesn't go to anyone, but AMD is right. Nvidia's version of "pushing the envelope" is introducing technologies that can't realistically be game-changing or even well implemented at the moment, and then pushing it off as a reason to buy from them. By the time the technology actually becomes relevant in hardware and gaming, it looks like AMD will have an answer to it.

[BigDamn]

1 minute ago, thorhammerz said:

Were people expecting a blowout miracle from AMD today?

Somewhat. They spoiled us with all these Ryzen announcements the last couple years.

[Belgarathian]

Has AMD announced card TDP?

[ThotChopsticks]

1 minute ago, melete said:

I was expecting a 2070 competitor at 2070 prices. This seems to be that.

Hopefully it can gain some ground in certain instances. Would show that come next-gen, AMD might have an answer to their competition.

[cj09beira]

 

Just now, Belgarathian said:

Has AMD announced card TDP?

225 and 180

[cj09beira]

unity partnership is good to see, unity could use some amd optimization

[yolosnail]

1 minute ago, cj09beira said:

 

225 and 180

When did they announce that?

[Deus Voltage]

For all the $hit that Unity gets, their real time rendering is pretty amazing

[melete]

2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

 

225 and 180

RTX 2070 TDP: 175W

RTX 2060 TDP: 160W

 

via Techpowerup

[exetras]

This is exactly what I expected and I'm going to get an 5700 if the reviews match what they showed.

 

From the CPU side, that was a decent boost in performance.

 

[COTG]

2 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

 

225 and 180

if thats true, ngl thats pretty shitty. looks like they had to push the clock speed too high again in order to compete...

[ThotChopsticks]

1 minute ago, melete said:

RTX 2070 TDP: 175W

RTX 2060 TDP: 160W

 

Just now, COTG said:

if thats true, ngl thats pretty shitty. looks like they had to push the clock speed too high again in order to compete...

It's 5W over the 2070. It's disappointing, but not "shitty". It's a worthy second option for buyers, it looks like. 

[COTG]

Just now, ThotChopsticks said:

 

It's 5W over the 2070. It's disappointing, but not "shitty". It's a worthy second option for buyers, it looks like. 

the card thats competing with the 2070 would in that case have a 225 W tdp, meaning it is 50W over the 2070. Thats super shitty, considering that it is amd's 7nm competing vs nvidia's 12nm. They are needing to push past the efficient core clocks in order to squeeze out more performance, and I just hope that performance can increase when they completely move away from gcn

[BigDamn]

Updated OP with card specs

[ch3w2oy]

9 minutes ago, BigDamn said:

Mostly just depends on what the custom cards will cost. AMD used to be a decent amount cheaper, so being slightly cheaper misses the expectation.

Might be below expectations but that's not AMDs fault,  I guess people will believe anything these days.. 

 

AMD will be getting more and more expensive as they catch (and/or surpass) up to the competition. People need to stop looking at them as a budget company here to save the day.. That's not how businesses make money..

 

I called it a while ago, once they said they're working on cards below the VII, that you'll get Vega 64 performance, maybe better, just with better efficiency. There will be plenty of people buying them if 3rd party benchmarks check out..

 

Not everyone wants Nvidia.

 

I, for one, am happy to see a new card on the 2070 level for a cheaper price, even if it's only $50 cheaper so far.

 

If same price and same performance I would choose AMD. I've enjoyed their software and drivers way more.. I tried a 2080 FTW3 and 1080 TI, and I love my Radeon VII so much more.. Just a better experience, for me.. Everyone is different, I guess..

[Spotty]

AMD TURN DOWN THE MUSIC VOLUME PLEASE

[thorhammerz]

1 minute ago, melete said:

I was expecting a 2070 competitor at 2070 prices. This seems to be that.

Likewise.

 

AMD being able to compete in the upper-mid-range segment without needing to aggressively slash margins (like their RX 480/580 cards) is a commendable achievement in and of itself, given the price-tiers (and subsequent price-slashing) of their last 5 years worth of GPU offerings.

 

[DildorTheDecent]

1 minute ago, Spotty said:

AMD TURN DOWN THE MUSIC VOLUME PLEASE

WHAT?!

[Taf the Ghost]

7 minutes ago, cj09beira said:

unity partnership is good to see, unity could use some amd optimization

Unreal's limited AMD optimizations in the PC branch causes more benchmarking issues than anything else for AMD. Unity is a close second, so it's a really good idea to make Unity work really well on AMD. Money gets that done.