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Pro league ruins games?

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Posted · Original PosterOP

Does anyone think a game that has been claimed by Esport has been ruined from what it used to be? For one, Rainbow six siege was the victim.

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1 minute ago, masked_guy said:

Does anyone think a game that has been claimed by Esport has been ruined from what it used to be? For one, Rainbow six siege was the victim.

Overwatch. I feel like back in the beginning the game had a much more fun atmosphere. Then the esports craze happened and bled into the rest of the games lower ranks, Quickplay became 'not competitive' for the people that just wanted to 'practice'. Everyone started getting angry all the time, and the games basically been on a downward slide for basically no reason other than community.

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10 hours ago, imbrock said:

Overwatch. I feel like back in the beginning the game had a much more fun atmosphere.

This. I remember when people played it for just fun, then the OWL came hard and every match had a widow, a hanzo, a genji and sometimes a tracer.

Fucking disgusting, I have more than 40 hours with Moira and more than 40 hours with Mercy, my third most played character was Lucio with almost 40 hours too and damn, I'm so tired of the 5 dps team that the last month I've been playing mostly dps, if we are going to lose at least I could perfect my aim

Just when I wanted to be better with Ana I couldn't because everyone were splitted, it's a shame that now it's all about being the very best in the game, like if it was a semi pro league all day

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7 hours ago, PacketMan said:

This. I remember when people played it for just fun, then the OWL came hard and every match had a widow, a hanzo, a genji and sometimes a tracer.

Fucking disgusting, I have more than 40 hours with Moira and more than 40 hours with Mercy, my third most played character was Lucio with almost 40 hours too and damn, I'm so tired of the 5 dps team that the last month I've been playing mostly dps, if we are going to lose at least I could perfect my aim

Just when I wanted to be better with Ana I couldn't because everyone were splitted, it's a shame that now it's all about being the very best in the game, like if it was a semi pro league all day

and do you THINK esport was a mistake in the first place?

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1 hour ago, masked_guy said:

and do you THINK esport was a mistake in the first place?

Pff... I don't know... The esports came all of a sudden, now there are millions of kids wanting to be professionals, before esports just wanted to have fun

I think esports are necessary but I also think that developers should improve in-game experience for those who just want to have fun, like 2-2-2 (tank, healer and dps) matches or 3-3, something to force people to play more kind of characters instead all those tryhards

TL;DR: not a mistake but it's dev's duty to improve in-game experience

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On 4/10/2019 at 2:34 AM, imbrock said:

Overwatch. I feel like back in the beginning the game had a much more fun atmosphere. Then the esports craze happened and bled into the rest of the games lower ranks, Quickplay became 'not competitive' for the people that just wanted to 'practice'. Everyone started getting angry all the time, and the games basically been on a downward slide for basically no reason other than community.

i used played comp for fun. like trying to get good with the random team and have a good time.

ultimately i just stopped playing because "life got in the way"


Hey man, you do you and I'll be me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Competitive FPS has been around since 1990's just letting you know. 

 

But back then in the early 2000s for example it was definitely more fun and each game had community and rivalries.

 

Depending on how good your team/squad etc were you would end up playing in those brackets with similarly skilled teams if your team improved you would move up similarly to diamond ect leagues in current game but with people you knew and could work with against similar skilled and prepared opponents .

 

Squads often had servers and tournaments ran comp modes to keep things skill based and fair. 

 

At those times we had ladders for normal competition and then tournaments would start and squads would play out for winners in that. the following season the best of those would usually move into a Invite bracket of tournament play and then following those you would more or less start to see pro teams. 

 

Typically a whole team would ascend so tight nit groups as a team would usually be the case.

Unlike now where everyone wants to be a solo super elite in a very transient environment .   

 

The FPS genre has experienced a similar issue as a the mmo community's via forced change to make things more casual and random with easy rewards and less community based where you have to work with others to achieve things.

 

As for your fun gaming experience we used to have a crap ton of fun in both community servers and team hosted servers but most people would frequent the same group of servers and then people would get to know each other by tag , it seemed more fun that way anyways rivalries and friendships were formed during those times.


Too many Pc's to list - overclocked heavy etc. 
 

 

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I guess you could say pro league doesn't ruin games it's just the whole process to getting to a pro league has shifted in a not so great way. 

 

Now there isn't much middle ground where teams or even less than pro leagues can cultivate/justate. the amature leagues are pretty much exitinct really in most FPS now. 

 

Now people just try to solo as much as possible and get noticed instead of bringing up a team with them and seeing how far it can go. 

 

If your a star on some mid ranged team and you get poached or picked up into a pro team or if your team can hang with pro's over time those used to be how people moved up into those spaces.. but it feels like those stepping stones or platforms of access are no longer really there. 

 

I think its hurt pro gaming and competitive gaming in general. 


Too many Pc's to list - overclocked heavy etc. 
 

 

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No idea what you guys are talking about. Overwatch is the same casual game for me as it always was - I just play Quick Play. 

 

If you play ranked, then of course it's going to be meta and people are going to be tryhard. It's the same in every game, especially after it matures.


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Overwatch is fairy bad example. That game had always seemed designed to be an esports game. The negatives that are being experienced are more likely a result of the community just evolving over time.

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Posted · Original PosterOP
17 hours ago, omarthegeek said:

imo kinda. Esports most of the time makes games toxic. but sometimes games were meant to be for esports like fortnite.

and has taken original ideas out of the window

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