Pentium with no graphics, but for who?

[Fasauceome]

https://www.anandtech.com/show/13982/intel-pentium-g5600f

Intel has unveiled a Pentium that lacks an iGPU, but I have to ask, who the hell is this for? For budget gaming, I have a hard time recommending even a quad core, and if the 9900KF is anything to go by, this Pentium will cost the same as the one with an iGPU. What would the use case for this be?

[Levent]

all I could think of is basic mining with just few gpus.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Levent said:

all I could think of is basic mining with just few gpus.

A bit late for that, Intel would know that for sure. Also, what about mining cards with no video output? That would make this once again useless.

[Drak3]

It'd be decent for a preconfig'd NAS.

[Princess Luna]

Why do people think the 9900KF will overclock to 5.5ghz and such because its iGPU is dead?

 

If any thing it might overclock worse given the silicon was bad enough to give you a defective iGPU lol! but honestly if the iGPU is already disabled it makes no difference between the 9900K and 9900KF, right?

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Drak3 said:

It'd be decent for a preconfig'd NAS.

I guess, but the last Nas I got had an atom in it, cheaper and decent enough. Is there a specific price point this would help out?

[Drak3]

Just now, Princess Cadence said:

Why do people think the 9900KF will overclock to 5.5ghz and such because its iGPU is dead?

No heat from the iGPU, and more power available to the CPU cores.

[Drak3]

Just now, fasauceome said:

I guess, but the last Nas I got had an atom in it, cheaper and decent enough. Is there a specific price point this would help out?

It depends on what you're doing with the NAS. My NAS had a BGA Pentium.

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

No heat from the iGPU, and more power available to the CPU cores.

But if it's turned OFF already why would it be producing heat and consuming energy?

[GoldenLag]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

No heat from the iGPU, and more power available to the CPU cores.

The iGPU is allready dissabled and if power is an issue, then its the mobo and not the CPU. Also the iGPU draws power from the memmory VRM. 

 

It shouldnt have any difference compared to their iGPU counterparts. 

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

But if it's turned OFF already why would it be producing heat and consuming energy?

@GoldenLag

It's not off unless you explicitly turn it off. It's still being used for things like hardware acceleration.

[GoldenLag]

The pentium might be useful for systems that need good decoding capability and a regular GPU to do so. 

 

That might be the only market for this thing.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

The pentium might be useful for systems that need good decoding capability and a regular GPU to do so. 

 

That might be the only market for this thing.

That's a rather slim market, and I wonder if a Celeron would do just fine in that case

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

@GoldenLag

It's not off unless you explicitly turn it off. It's still being used for things like hardware acceleration.

And during idle it draws like nothing. And powerlines are seperate

 

Shouldnt affect OC limits.

[GoldenLag]

Just now, fasauceome said:

That's a rather slim market, and I wonder if a Celeron would do just fine in that case

I mean, even in that market it wouldnt be chosen because the pricing of the hardware is allready high. They will je running core i5 shiz at least imo

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Shouldnt affect OC limits.

That's not something we can be sure of yet.

[Sauron]

No F series chip makes any sense so long as it costs the same as the version with a GPU...

[SenKa]

I can normally come up with some edge case scenario for just about anything. I'm a creative person. But... Im stumped. This is just Intel trying to justify the poor yield rate of its manufacturing process.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, SenpaiKaplan said:

This is just Intel trying to justify the poor yield rate of its manufacturing process.

I mean, on the one hand, I like reducing e waste, and not tossing a CPU.

On the other, it still makes no sense to charge the same amount for an F or no F SKU.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

 

I can normally come up with some edge case scenario for just about anything.

 

IThey'd make sense for prebuilt systems like the Alienware Alpha, where there is a dGPU and the iGPU is legitimately useless for most people.

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

That's not something we can be sure of yet.

Its all based on yields. Dont think Intel binned these to be better. Especially since it has a defected iGPU

[Emanbaird]

I would only buy this if it came unlocked.

 

Other than that i could just get a 2200g 

[Drak3]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Dont think Intel binned these to be better. Especially since it has a defected iGPU

That still leaves the possibility for some of these chips to be able to squeeze another hundred MHz, because it's the iGPU that's defective, not the entire chip. The silicon lottery is still at play, and again, an iGPU might though out enough heat or draw enough power to hinder the last little bit of potential.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Emanbaird said:

I would only buy this if it came unlocked.

 

Other than that i could just get a 2200g 

You need a Z series board. So......

 

Also you can get an 200GE and use a certain BIOS revision on the B seroes board to overclock.

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Emanbaird said:

I would only buy this if it came unlocked.

 

Other than that i could just get a 2200g 

Yeah the value proposition is terrible for Pentium right now, it's like $115 for the G5600