DrunkenPanda

.... That Samsung corrected quickly.... because customer support

I don't trust random unknown Chinese manufacturers to provide the hardware they sent out for benchmarking. They could disappear tomorrow and rebrand to something else nobody's heard of and no harm, no foul for screwing their customer base. I don't say this as some blind talking point either, because they do just that on a regular basis... I also don't agree with the working conditions, worker pay, and politics of the country in general... which is a whole other issue.

Samsung can't just disappear and refuse to support their products because they have an established brand and a reputation to uphold. So if there's a choice and one's $10 more, but has been a mainstay in the industry for 20-30 years... I'll gladly pay that $10 premium for peace of mind knowing I'm not about to get screwed. You can call that fanboyism or whatever you want to call it... but I get what I pay for every time.
 
I'm also 37 and have been building enthusiast computers since I was 12. I have a good job and can afford to splurge an extra couple hundred across a system for established manufacturers that I have experience with. I know they will stand behind and support their products, and have customer service beyond "we already have your money, sucks for you". If none of that matters to you, and all you care about is raw benchmark price/performance, then we are different customers that value different things. I'll agree to disagree here 😛
 
Edit: I've got a 1TB 970 evo... tell me what benchmark to run and we can live test it vs ur kyo 🙂

It'll be sitting in a box in my closet.... I'm not in any hurry to get rid of it, it just so happened to be available after next week... feel free to PM me if you want it whenever and assuming I haven't built something else with it, it's all yours

I'd go with Beyerdynamic DT 770 Pro or DT 990 Pro phones and a modmic.... both phones circumaural so they don't abuse your ears and priced ~$150.... the 770's are closed and give better bass... the 990's are open and have a better soundstage... (there are other brands that are worth a look at the price point--AudioTechnica/Sennheiser specifically, but I use Beyerdynamic, like their sound curve better, and can vouch for them specifically) they sound amazing, have good build quality, will last forever with a few earpad changes, and they aren't reaching into that super-audiophile $500+ paying for the last .1% garbage... make sure you get the 80 ohm version if you don't have a DAC or headphone preamp
 
I haven't heard a headset that sounded remotely comparable to nice phones... a modmic is like $50... it's worth it to not have to deal with average-awful sound IMO
 
Also, if you're going to be wearing them often for long periods at a time... do not get noise cancelling phones... they will ruin your ears... just get closed ones... it will isolate you enough and not program a cancellation tone into your ear bones

Also.... not sure how adding a reservoir would disrupt the flow of a distro plate o.O

They were shutting down due to power spikes tripping the safety threshold... going over the 750w/650w etc wattage mark of the PSU... that's what they are designed to do so it doesn't fry your system... it does the same thing as a last resort to prevent power surges from frying your components
 
People are mad because the GPUs they are buying have a continuous rated spec and they load all that up in PCPartpicker or whatever.... pick a PSU with 100w of extra and call it a day.... then same said ppl obliviously complain when the GPU they bought spikes 200w peak over the continuous rating and the PSU safety trips out like it was designed to do...
 
Honestly.... I'd be more concerned with the PSUs that *don't* trip at the proper level :X
 
I've been using XFX/Seasonic power supplies almost exclusively for 10+ years... never had a single issue with any of them... then Nvidia designs an irresponsibly power-hungry GPU and it's Seasonic's fault they have safety trips on their PSUs? lol

I'd just buy a laptop for that price range honestly
 
Edit: I mean... I would... you can still use a mediocre $500 laptop after you save up enough to build a desktop... and to build a desktop on that budget, in this market, you'll be compromising on all of your parts so much--just to get something functional--that once you go to "upgrade", you'll have to replace everything you already had and it won't be nice enough for resale... there's zero chance you fit a gpu into that budget... so.... yea... I'd just buy a laptop
 
also... for a desktop you'll still need: monitor/keyboard/mouse/headset or speakers/etc.... all of that comes with the laptop... and if you had budget set aside for that you can get a nicer laptop lol

well... I mean... only $3000 for a case/loop/loop toys/GPU.... the guts will be harvested from the rig I rebuilt about 6 months ago... for no apparent reason other than I'm an addict :X
 
Leakshield looks pretty cool tho.... and I can justify it by claiming it actually does something other than exist

I'd advise to find the GPU at a semi-reasonable price before you buy the rest.... and there's nothing wrong with getting a PSU that will last you forever but.... that's WAY more power than you will ever use short of using 3 GPUs in a rig... which is never, ever, worth it... and mostly just causes games to glitch (I'm pretty sure I read both Nvidia and AMD just dropped support for SLI/XFire altogether.... like... it's still is present in the cards, they just got tired of doing technical support for it)... that being said I bought a XFX Platinum 1000w PSU a long ass time ago and it'll be powering my rigs 15 years from now I'm sure

I'm fairly certain the 770 will outperform the 1050ti by a fair margin.... and the 1650 wouldn't be much of an upgrade... but that cpu isn't gonna bottleneck any of those

I mean....  "gaming laptops" aren't really a thing short of 2-3 grand... and the desktop you could build with that budget would absolutely murder its corpse... it sounds like you made some mistakes during your first build and you gave up instead of reading into why the mistakes happened... it's impossible for somebody here to diagnose what the actual root cause of your issues were but if you saw literal sparks coming from behind the I/O panel, you definitely had a short....
 
Short circuits occur when a low-resistance path is touching a high-volume current... typically in a computer build... there's a loose wire or solder from the motherboard touching the metal case... That's almost certainly what happened with the Gigabyte board whether you want to admit it or not... but for the root cause I have no idea where to tell you to look for that at... figure out what loose wire or solder was touching the case to cause that short and you've at least learned something from the failure... 
 
As for the original issue... it does sound like you didn't have the standoffs in if the I/O panel "wasn't aligning correctly" with the motherboard (and it would explain both problems because if the solder is sitting on the metal... and you turn it on.... that's a dead board) or you just positioned it poorly? I'd have to see a picture to see *how* they were misaligned to tell you further... I would advise you to diagnose the mistakes and if you have questions as you build... ask the forum as people are very helpful around here... take lots of pictures for issues you need immediate help with...
 
As for the fan... if you turn the fan on full blast, it's going to make a little noise... there's rarely a REASON to turn it on full blast, you just want air moving through the case/static pressure and a strong enough current on heat-sinks to dissipate the air from the fins...  but even Noctua fans make a small amount of noise at full blast... it's possible you got a defective fan, I guess... but if your prospective "gaming laptop" turns on it's fans... it's like a hair dryer... so.... yea 😛 

I mean....  "gaming laptops" aren't really a thing short of 2-3 grand... and the desktop you could build with that budget would absolutely murder its corpse... it sounds like you made some mistakes during your first build and you gave up instead of reading into why the mistakes happened... it's impossible for somebody here to diagnose what the actual root cause of your issues were but if you saw literal sparks coming from behind the I/O panel, you definitely had a short....
 
Short circuits occur when a low-resistance path is touching a high-volume current... typically in a computer build... there's a loose wire or solder from the motherboard touching the metal case... That's almost certainly what happened with the Gigabyte board whether you want to admit it or not... but for the root cause I have no idea where to tell you to look for that at... figure out what loose wire or solder was touching the case to cause that short and you've at least learned something from the failure... 
 
As for the original issue... it does sound like you didn't have the standoffs in if the I/O panel "wasn't aligning correctly" with the motherboard (and it would explain both problems because if the solder is sitting on the metal... and you turn it on.... that's a dead board) or you just positioned it poorly? I'd have to see a picture to see *how* they were misaligned to tell you further... I would advise you to diagnose the mistakes and if you have questions as you build... ask the forum as people are very helpful around here... take lots of pictures for issues you need immediate help with...
 
As for the fan... if you turn the fan on full blast, it's going to make a little noise... there's rarely a REASON to turn it on full blast, you just want air moving through the case/static pressure and a strong enough current on heat-sinks to dissipate the air from the fins...  but even Noctua fans make a small amount of noise at full blast... it's possible you got a defective fan, I guess... but if your prospective "gaming laptop" turns on it's fans... it's like a hair dryer... so.... yea 😛 

Standard ATX PSU won't work

Standard ATX PSU is not gonne work with a HP Pavillion. Case, motherboard and PSU are all proprietary and 12v only. HP has a 500w 12vO PSU that fits. The partnumber is HP L05757-800

I meant RAID1, single mirrored parity... anyways
 
Even without any redundancy, the drives alone are $8,020... 
 
I won't ask any questions I don't need an answer for to help you. (Though the secrecy of filming and storing THAT much footage is kind of creepy lol)
 
A. What file format/compression ratio are you storing the footage?
B. What resolution is the footage?
C. How many cameras?
D. How long do you need to store the footage for?
 
I ask because I don't think you budgeted enough for the system @ 10k per build, so if we can determine the data incoming and reevaluate what you really need to handle it, then maybe we can fit it into a 10k budget. RAID cards are expensive, ECC is expensive, 4U cases are expensive, server motherboards are expensive, and you'll need a decent CPU to process all the incoming data/fit the server mobo socket.

Who decided on this arbitrary number of 200TB per NAS?
 
I ask because my entire movie collection on my home server of 650 low-compression 1080p movies takes up about 1.37TB. If you were to average out the movies at say... 1 hour 45 minutes a piece, then you could run a single camera for 47-1/2 days and only use 1.37 TB of space. I'd assume you'd be storing the footage in high-compression and without 5.1 dolby digital surround, so you'll cut that data ratio by 1/3 at least and still be in 1080p. So that runs a single 1080p camera for 142 days.
 
Now maybe you have 45 cameras running and you want to store the footage in 1080p completely uncompressed and with uncompressed sound, which probably would need 200TB for a month of storage. Most security footage is saved in SD without sound. Most places keep video surveillance for 30 days before rewriting over it. Unless you're business is a casino or a bank, there's no reason to use 1080p footage... and unless you're planning on being actively involved in a lawsuit against current employees, there's no real reason to keep footage past 30 days.
 
I'm not trying to belittle the use-case, but I feel like it needs to be addressed. By my math 200TB will store 6,934 days (about 19 years) of single camera 1080p movie quality, low-compression footage with 5.1 dolby digital sound (which is obviously overkill for security footage). If it WAS a single camera recording at that excessive quality (I get that it's probably not), the drives would start failing 12 years before the server was full. For the use case, we could assume high-compression storage without sound, and we'd be at ~57 years for that same single camera. Of course most places store security footage in SD, so that gives you another 4x multiplier to put that single camera @ 480p to 228 years of footage. *All of that is quickly approximated... but I think it illustrates the point.
 
I assume we'd be using 10TB drives... I'll also assume you want some kind of data failsafe, so if you want an active 200TB in RAID0, you'd need 40x 10TB drives to achieve this. Each drive is ~$400... that comes out to $16,040 just for the base of the drives, and you'll likely want 5-10 extras for hot-swapping and drive failure scenarios. So... you're walking into this at 60% over your budget before you've bought extra drives, 4U case, raid cards, ECC ram, server motherboard, CPU, power supply, cooling, etc.
 
In conclusion... I would reevaluate what you really need. After that, if it's actually determined you actually need THAT much hot-swappable redundant space, call Amazon and see what they charge.

I meant RAID1, single mirrored parity... anyways
 
Even without any redundancy, the drives alone are $8,020... 
 
I won't ask any questions I don't need an answer for to help you. (Though the secrecy of filming and storing THAT much footage is kind of creepy lol)
 
A. What file format/compression ratio are you storing the footage?
B. What resolution is the footage?
C. How many cameras?
D. How long do you need to store the footage for?
 
I ask because I don't think you budgeted enough for the system @ 10k per build, so if we can determine the data incoming and reevaluate what you really need to handle it, then maybe we can fit it into a 10k budget. RAID cards are expensive, ECC is expensive, 4U cases are expensive, server motherboards are expensive, and you'll need a decent CPU to process all the incoming data/fit the server mobo socket.

Corsair Crystal Series 570X
I mean you can't show off much more than that

Samba is built into Windows, you just have to turn on the option if you haven't already. It works across every platform I've ever been on. *shrugs*

I meant RAID1, single mirrored parity... anyways
 
Even without any redundancy, the drives alone are $8,020... 
 
I won't ask any questions I don't need an answer for to help you. (Though the secrecy of filming and storing THAT much footage is kind of creepy lol)
 
A. What file format/compression ratio are you storing the footage?
B. What resolution is the footage?
C. How many cameras?
D. How long do you need to store the footage for?
 
I ask because I don't think you budgeted enough for the system @ 10k per build, so if we can determine the data incoming and reevaluate what you really need to handle it, then maybe we can fit it into a 10k budget. RAID cards are expensive, ECC is expensive, 4U cases are expensive, server motherboards are expensive, and you'll need a decent CPU to process all the incoming data/fit the server mobo socket.

Samba is built into Windows, you just have to turn on the option if you haven't already. It works across every platform I've ever been on. *shrugs*

I meant RAID1, single mirrored parity... anyways
 
Even without any redundancy, the drives alone are $8,020... 
 
I won't ask any questions I don't need an answer for to help you. (Though the secrecy of filming and storing THAT much footage is kind of creepy lol)
 
A. What file format/compression ratio are you storing the footage?
B. What resolution is the footage?
C. How many cameras?
D. How long do you need to store the footage for?
 
I ask because I don't think you budgeted enough for the system @ 10k per build, so if we can determine the data incoming and reevaluate what you really need to handle it, then maybe we can fit it into a 10k budget. RAID cards are expensive, ECC is expensive, 4U cases are expensive, server motherboards are expensive, and you'll need a decent CPU to process all the incoming data/fit the server mobo socket.

God Dammit, I thought I will have to run multiple VMs with different servers and it turns out I just need a computer and I'm good to go. Thanks bud!

Samba is built into Windows, you just have to turn on the option if you haven't already. It works across every platform I've ever been on. *shrugs*