Is my CPU running hot?

[Wreighn]

Hi guys,

I recently noticed that my PC is having trouble doing basic tasks, and that my APU keeps getting maxed for tasks as easy as opening Opera, and sometimes 720p videos lag... I checked my CPU temperature on speccy and hwmonitor, and they are the same. Here is a HWMonitor/overdrive snapshot:

These are my PC specs:

 

I haven't done any overclocking, AMD OverDrive is there just to show the temperature. I recently updated my motherboard, and I loaded the optimized settings. Also, read on a few places that under full load it shouldn't be getting any hotter than about 75c. Is that true, and if not how do I fix my issue. 

 

PS: I'm using the stock cooler.

[Archangel1994]

You are running waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too hot.

 

Reseat the cooler and reapply thermal paste properly

[CoolaxGaming]

WOW IS THAT AT LOAD, THAT IS DAMN HOT

[TBNRunity]

Hopefully you haven't been running it for too long or else the cpu could have been damaged

[zappian]

You are gonna kill your cpu dude.

Clean your cooler , apply thermal paste and if everything else fails buy a aftermaket cooler.

[Wreighn]

Woah, I hope I haven't damaged my CPU

 

Under idle it goes from 65c to 75c.

I won't do any demanding tasks untill I fix the cooling issue.

Thanks for all the feedback


My CPU won't just die, right? Will it underclock itself or shutdown the PC if it gets too hot? 

[harrynowl]

AMDs FM2 temp sensors are plain BROKEN. Do not panic yet.

 

The best way is to leave your UEFI open for 10 minutes and check the CPU temp reading reported in the UEFI.

[Analog]

AMDs FM2 temp sensors are plain BROKEN. Do not panic yet.

 

The best way is to leave your UEFI open for 10 minutes and check the CPU temp reading reported in the UEFI.

 

^ This!!!

 

On most AMD boards the temperature sensors don't work correctly at all so don't worry that much. Just get a nice budget aftermarket cooler and MX-4 thermal compound for your own peace of mind and call it a day. 

[zappian]

Try coretemp , its the most accurate software i have used.

[Wreighn]

Try coretemp , its the most accurate software i have used.

I left Core Temp on for a few minutes, and all I'm getting is a 0

 

I'm gonna try the UEFI test that 

harrynowl

mentioned, and I will post the results when done.

[Wreighn]

 

AMDs FM2 temp sensors are plain BROKEN. Do not panic yet.

 

The best way is to leave your UEFI open for 10 minutes and check the CPU temp reading reported in the UEFI.

I kept the UEFI open for 10 minutes. After a restart the temperature was 55c, it quickly rose to 64, after about 6 minutes it reached a stable 66, and stayed there till the end of the test.

[sgloux3470]

That just seems way too hot for idle.

 

Definitely try reseating the cooler.  

[Wreighn]

^ This!!!

 

On most AMD boards the temperature sensors don't work correctly at all so don't worry that much. Just get a nice budget aftermarket cooler and MX-4 thermal compound for your own peace of mind and call it a day. 

Thanks for the advice.

Is there any way for me to find out for sure thats its the temperature sensors that are at fault, and not my CPU?

[Analog]

 

 

I kept the UEFI open for 10 minutes. After a restart the temperature was 55c, it quickly rose to 64, after about 6 minutes it reached a stable 66, and stayed there till the end of the test.

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That's within limit, but still a bit on the hotter side. As a I said before, buy a nice budget aftermarket cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus/Evo and some MX-4 thermal compund and enjoy your processor. You will be even able to do some overclocking on that thing. 

[Wreighn]

That just seems way too hot for idle.

 

Definitely try reseating the cooler.  

I will definitely reseat the cooler, and reapply the thermal paste. I'm still not sure if my motherboard is giving me the wrong temperature readings, cos if the readings are correct I think I will have to buy a new aftermarket cooler.

[Wreighn]

That's within limit, but still a bit on the hotter side. As a I said before, buy a nice budget aftermarket cooler like the Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus/Evo and some MX-4 thermal compund and enjoy your processor. You will be even able to do some overclocking on that thing. 

I'm guessing that the measurements that UEFI gave me were somewhat correct. Did the other software give me false readings? I'm thinking yes, cos I just found out about the temperature. It could have been an issue for some time now, and if so, the readings are really high and could/should have really damaged my CPU by now.

[Godlygamer23]

If you take off your cooler, does the APU feel hot? Like burn your hand hot?

[Wreighn]

If you take off your cooler, does the APU feel hot? Like burn your hand hot?

Sorry, I don't feel like touching something that has the potential to burn my hand. The cooler doesn't appear to be spinning that fast, and even after I set the fan speed in the uefi to the fastest, it still kinda felt the same, and the readings remained the same. As for the air around the fan, it feels just a little warm. Doesn't seem like something really hot is being cooled down.

 

Here is a picture of my cooler:

Looks average enough.... Should be able to keep a non-overclocked APU cool right?

 

PS: I will buy a better cooler, and get thermal paste. The only thing that troubles me is the the truthfulness of the readings given by the temperature sensor/software I used.

[Analog]

I'm guessing that the measurements that UEFI gave me were somewhat correct. Did the other software give me false readings? I'm thinking yes, cos I just found out about the temperature. It could have been an issue for some time now, and if so, the readings are really high and could/should have really damaged my CPU by now.

 

The other software gave you the wrong readings. I have experienced this issue myself before when I used to have a Phenom II 5 years ago and that was even on a very high end 890FX ROG board. Your CPU is fine, but it's still running a bit hotter than what it is supposed to. 

[Wreighn]

The other software gave you the wrong readings. I have experienced this issue myself before when I used to have a Phenom II 5 years ago and that was even on a very high end 890FX ROG board. Your CPU is fine, but it's still running a bit hotter than what it is supposed to. 

Thanks for all your help

[-rascal-]

Clean up that nest of wires! Geez!

I would clean off the old thermal paste, and apply a new amount.

Can you get a picture of the ENTIRE inside of the PC?

Given that thereis no exhaust fan at the back if the case, it doesn't look lie the computer has very good air ventulation.

(The "Made In China" sticker on the power supply doesnt help either)

[Wreighn]

Clean up that nest of wires! Geez!

I would clean off the old thermal paste, and apply a new amount.

Can you get a picture of the ENTIRE inside of the PC?

Given that thereis no exhaust fan at the back if the case, it doesn't look lie the computer has very good air ventulation.

(The "Made In China" sticker on the power supply doesnt help either)

Here are a few pictures:

http://1drv.ms/1tYkWtA

 

The power supply doesn't get hot. Well, it does a little when the GPU is used. My brother's 400W power supply gets extremely hot (probably cos of the Sapphire HD 4850 graphics). Compared to his power supply, mine runs like a refrigerator.

The wall behind the case doesn't get hot either. The inside of the case is not that hot.

[-rascal-]

My dear god...

 

 

Why do you have a "500W"...thing?

That thing isn't even a real 500W unit. It has 18A on the +12v rail. That is more like a REALISTIC 220W / 250W.

Seeing you need molex adaptars for your Hard Drive / Disk Drive / Graphics card, I actually fear for YOUR SAFETY.

 

It looks like your computer case only has one system fan location -- that unused spot at the rear. Not good. No airflow in that computer

 

65*C for the motherboard is also not a good sign. I don't think I've seen a motherboard, itself, reach temperatures that high -- not even when using a ton of voltage for overclocking.

 

What are your temperatures like with the side panel OFF?

 

 

Looks like we are dealing with much more than one problem here...

[Wreighn]

My dear god...

 

 

Why do you have a "500W"...thing?

That thing isn't even a real 500W unit. It has 18A on the +12v rail. That is more like a REALISTIC 220W / 250W.

Seeing you need molex adaptars for your Hard Drive / Disk Drive / Graphics card, I actually fear for YOUR SAFETY.

 

It looks like your computer case only has one system fan location -- that unused spot at the rear. Not good. No airflow in that computer

 

65*C for the motherboard is also not a good sign. I don't think I've seen a motherboard, itself, reach temperatures that high -- not even when using a ton of voltage for overclocking.

 

What are your temperatures like with the side panel OFF?

 

 

Looks like we are dealing with much more than one problem here...

70c average when my case is open. No noticeable change.

Sorry for the late reply. I had to get some sleep in order to get up for school, and not sleep there.

[VortexS]

As rascal says, this is still a problem. Your case and mobo temps are way too high. Are there any fans in the case itself or is it just a CPU and GPU fan?