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I figured I would take advantage of the fact this post hasn't been locked yet to spread the word about this years folding month.

 

Folding month 2019!!

See the thread for detail and don't forget to spread the word!!!

 

 

@leadeater you can now lock this one.

 

-Thanks

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1 minute ago, ir8munk33 said:

I don't think F@H requires the throughput of the pcie lane. Does it not hand over the data to the gpu and let it deal with it?

 

Although thinking about it i might be thinking of mining...

Nope, you need x8 PCIe3 lanes minimum 

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1 minute ago, ir8munk33 said:

I don't think F@H requires the throughput of the pcie lane. Does it not hand over the data to the gpu and let it deal with it?

 

Although thinking about it i might be thinking of mining...

A GPU does not store data, in the same way a CPU does not store data. All data is sent through the internet and held in RAM/mass storage, then drawn upon by the CPU, then sent to the GPU. There is a general performance loss on higher end GPUs when folding on 4x and fewer lanes

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Here we go again, the update is here and we're ready to tell you those sweet sweet ranks. 

 

In first we have the expected Tommerrs with 119.5million points, followed by the king with 108.9million, third is filled by _Rlocke with 96.1million. Jakkuh holds onto fourth with 75.9million, and Gorgon has fifth with 48.4million. 6th place is in the hands of Dissitesuxba11s with 41.6million, 7th is taken by Porina, in 8th we have Ben Quigley with 39.9million. Palespartan sits in 9th and once again the gatekeeper is Cereal5 with 31.8million.

DUW1G1T and Yabdat take the next couple spots with 29million points. Invaderzim and TVwazhere both have 22million, D-Newb is in 15th with 19million. Powelljl is in 18th with 17million points. RollinLower takes 19th with 17 million and in 20th we have Stijnman with 16million.

 

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Rank

Forum Name

Points

Week

Month

Day Percentage

Week Percentage

1

Tomerrs

8243327

24462021

119585243

7.72%

7.75%

2

King Poet

10327373

28017103

108916045

9.67%

8.88%

3

_Rlocke

9577449

27502671

96126428

8.97%

8.71%

4

jakkuh_t

4212088

14538638

75930318

3.94%

4.61%

5

Gorgon

3416632

9709994

48469923

3.20%

3.08%

6

Dissitesuxba11s

2793888

8499444

41658471

2.62%

2.69%

7

porina

2962534

10160284

40268954

2.77%

3.22%

8

Ben Quigley

2454597

6496596

39972787

2.30%

2.06%

9

Palespartan

1918421

5989775

32840912

1.80%

1.90%

10

Cereal5

2272859

6733363

31875296

2.13%

2.13%

11

DUW1G1T

2191134

6840024

29698992

2.05%

2.17%

12

Yabdat

2172465

6235838

29160845

2.03%

1.98%

13

Invaderzim117

2169078

3256551

22350239

2.03%

1.03%

14

TVwazhere

1481637

4627863

22020787

1.39%

1.47%

15

D_Newb

987433

3485335

19497624

0.92%

1.10%

16

sazrocks

1337834

4217612

18116953

1.25%

1.34%

17

willhemmens

1153728

3511292

18053915

1.08%

1.11%

18

Powelljl

1227129

2874171

17712880

1.15%

0.91%

19

RollinLower

1052818

3138342

17157175

0.99%

0.99%

20

Stijnman

970463

3039029

16251948

0.91%

0.96%

21

CagedAnimalz

949610

2862090

16129021

0.89%

0.91%

22

Spotty

1187565

3684281

15103054

1.11%

1.17%

23

FloRolf

1081045

3118485

14360922

1.01%

0.99%

24

cheees

1012115

2982884

14351672

0.95%

0.94%

25

RAS_3885

825951

2350473

13885051

0.77%

0.74%

26

MillerPanda

576791

2033907

13039267

0.54%

0.64%

27

wONKEyeYEs

923543

2406029

12277384

0.86%

0.76%

28

James

685772

2184654

12104175

0.64%

0.69%

29

sidas

751006

1834628

11838051

0.70%

0.58%

30

leadeater

742710

2116863

11792977

0.70%

0.67%

31

Para Bellum

1080420

3099101

11457091

1.01%

0.98%

32

shp

839191

2568574

11254888

0.79%

0.81%

33

Daber97

775972

2344355

11080298

0.73%

0.74%

34

SansVarnic

870987

2459558

10985376

0.82%

0.78%

35

suchamoneypit

1005138

3345945

10957861

0.94%

1.06%

36

imreloadin

0

1109735

10133477

0.00%

0.35%

37

Opencircuit74

655848

2294112

10084870

0.61%

0.73%

38

Zoravar

949499

2457253

9720965

0.89%

0.78%

39

OJTheAviator

662625

1851523

9404202

0.62%

0.59%

40

Blond

266159

1463300

9363863

0.25%

0.46%

41

DildorTheDecent

891674

1187623

9335782

0.84%

0.38%

42

Khale

810268

1701308

9135683

0.76%

0.54%

43

Faster_Speeding

632068

1924860

9042999

0.59%

0.61%

44

Garfieldyoulazycat

518143

1551880

8720922

0.49%

0.49%

45

TimeTheCat

541519

2043536

8643083

0.51%

0.65%

46

Egg-Roll

203906

1187647

8544710

0.19%

0.38%

47

chssmstr23

853682

2091227

8385641

0.80%

0.66%

48

Kiouri

875761

3041481

8269128

0.82%

0.96%

49

Gargone77

551706

1568522

8110997

0.52%

0.50%

50

Imbellis

250515

1003481

7583738

0.23%

0.32%

51

ObscureMammal

626718

1595700

7034090

0.59%

0.51%

52

SubbyDew

0

755168

6975793

0.00%

0.24%

53

JoelSalomonsson

571975

1638760

6719762

0.54%

0.52%

54

Elessog

588102

1264896

6719086

0.55%

0.40%

55

Wyrd

336431

1226553

6687056

0.32%

0.39%

56

Metallus97

105328

1359939

6655974

0.10%

0.43%

57

Churchles

648233

1903911

6467246

0.61%

0.60%

58

ShadowForce

659753

1712594

6279644

0.62%

0.54%

59

Kiyometa

998059

3203860

6257477

0.93%

1.02%

60

MariusOye

736805

736805

6186519

0.69%

0.23%

61

Wiggitywack

202687

1116288

6040144

0.19%

0.35%

62

Cyberspirit

181660

1580625

5932605

0.17%

0.50%

63

TheRedFox

331288

1219651

5869043

0.31%

0.39%

64

NMF666

429677

1374552

5803175

0.40%

0.44%

65

sejbas

325699

935000

5735889

0.31%

0.30%

66

RollTime

494507

1676845

5726103

0.46%

0.53%

67

Ryan_Vickers

250013

841604

5501270

0.23%

0.27%

68

Lemtea

41471

517128

5495809

0.04%

0.16%

69

Flynnt

0

0

5422414

0.00%

0.00%

70

coldhelios

484564

498750

5421025

0.45%

0.16%

71

Rusted

312471

947763

5243474

0.29%

0.30%

72

MiggidyMike

239199

1107105

5217970

0.22%

0.35%

73

Razor1320

624507

1065591

4659858

0.58%

0.34%

74

LegendEffects

280655

868558

4503711

0.26%

0.28%

75

blackmage1134

375491

1143953

4452150

0.35%

0.36%

76

chupacabra

0

1107076

4148779

0.00%

0.35%

77

staffy

0

485733

4144607

0.00%

0.15%

78

Capau

244767

791135

4136251

0.23%

0.25%

79

cTurtle98

659612

1976055

4109504

0.62%

0.63%

80

S.G.Rendel

0

867062

4006197

0.00%

0.27%

81

mark814

421737

1270182

4006158

0.39%

0.40%

82

Ziffer777

357632

957484

3929586

0.33%

0.30%

83

dmynerd78

366073

888612

3910570

0.34%

0.28%

84

Kevi

414437

1196437

3720267

0.39%

0.38%

85

Mattyb08

271206

563787

3670734

0.25%

0.18%

86

YBPT

379648

992316

3636037

0.36%

0.31%

87

Kerradeph

0

0

3521540

0.00%

0.00%

88

skunkmunkey

789310

2386162

3339889

0.74%

0.76%

89

Jodaka

752239

1504628

3236296

0.70%

0.48%

90

DatOneLefty

199427

563645

3198160

0.19%

0.18%

91

Redzuzu

0

444256

3160353

0.00%

0.14%

92

oskarha

175256

569772

3114352

0.16%

0.18%

93

Puntertje

339621

763250

3049777

0.32%

0.24%

94

gonj

389774

1166906

3045412

0.37%

0.37%

95

Kepi2

0

0

2998336

0.00%

0.00%

96

justinquedible

297402

619702

2916176

0.28%

0.20%

97

alex73630

10155

34712

2910430

0.01%

0.01%

98

Ockram

0

0

2850944

0.00%

0.00%

99

Givingtnt

290074

573166

2836476

0.27%

0.18%

100

gchan985

0

0

2576185

0.00%

0.00%

101

TristonTwenty7

128090

405822

2501044

0.12%

0.13%

102

BJOHEI

172924

722587

2331938

0.16%

0.23%

103

WoTpLaYeR489

0

0

2183950

0.00%

0.00%

104

Mattias Edeslatt

327955

1012840

2097146

0.31%

0.32%

105

MSVSora

0

0

2084942

0.00%

0.00%

106

Continues

341590

734113

2048833

0.32%

0.23%

107

linuxfan724

0

92140

1964957

0.00%

0.03%

108

Palycraft

300573

1109941

1929761

0.28%

0.35%

109

Justgame32

0

0

1905677

0.00%

0.00%

110

Kong7014

330967

881656

1849264

0.31%

0.28%

111

Samnut64

284005

612789

1847575

0.27%

0.19%

112

Mihle

126040

479898

1745950

0.12%

0.15%

113

Auerhahn

106699

316473

1672925

0.10%

0.10%

114

seoz

42102

410392

1651334

0.04%

0.13%

115

Shusky

159468

409132

1638467

0.15%

0.13%

116

Owleye_Solo

294284

727500

1589488

0.28%

0.23%

117

VKR-13

0

0

1400980

0.00%

0.00%

118

SomeCallMeJo

395208

433891

1396301

0.37%

0.14%

119

vexeran

52870

236168

1368611

0.05%

0.07%

120

BromTeque

34766

421826

1318630

0.03%

0.13%

121

WhisperingKnickers

304233

542028

1254179

0.28%

0.17%

122

Minibois

13145

13145

1209696

0.01%

0.00%

123

ethawesomee

71072

347879

1138602

0.07%

0.11%

124

Crunchy Dragon

0

6262

1132222

0.00%

0.00%

125

Kingquote

0

0

1022313

0.00%

0.00%

126

killatronix

0

0

1011309

0.00%

0.00%

127

2poreAIR

51322

198077

991777

0.05%

0.06%

128

JessAveryJA

107783

309854

988793

0.10%

0.10%

129

LiquidMotionz

107170

107170

984647

0.10%

0.03%

130

Scorpion9827

72512

631377

981188

0.07%

0.20%

131

talex95

83249

227623

962839

0.08%

0.07%

132

Diatorker

109264

213471

938917

0.10%

0.07%

133

Esemes16

46947

219389

916201

0.04%

0.07%

134

Zurkrem

0

229806

914300

0.00%

0.07%

135

Helix2020

102545

314485

899520

0.10%

0.10%

136

FluffyRanger

0

0

838193

0.00%

0.00%

137

Java

30020

160968

790540

0.03%

0.05%

138

llucioo

0

58739

780880

0.00%

0.02%

139

MaxTheDog73

129212

221826

760263

0.12%

0.07%

140

Technomancer__

0

0

744359

0.00%

0.00%

141

kting15

68011

128640

733310

0.06%

0.04%

142

PandamanNG

58400

205398

705805

0.05%

0.07%

143

Sparkznz

85435

251582

685443

0.08%

0.08%

144

FieldGenEJ

23170

173595

665053

0.02%

0.05%

145

TeXismo

125879

133610

654025

0.12%

0.04%

146

James76931

2407

5477

615677

0.00%

0.00%

147

themctipers

11012

11012

609364

0.01%

0.00%

148

Krosis

20088

41713

533021

0.02%

0.01%

149

gabrielquek92

0

179827

529697

0.00%

0.06%

150

BlueCrazii

92765

170694

527379

0.09%

0.05%

151

Kaolo

0

0

503406

0.00%

0.00%

152

OrangutanG

7359

115293

502161

0.01%

0.04%

153

descrom93

0

0

501261

0.00%

0.00%

154

speed_qweef

222016

493085

493085

0.21%

0.16%

155

RebelChan

0

110803

492397

0.00%

0.04%

156

CPBuchholz

0

0

488911

0.00%

0.00%

157

TheAlphaWolf

142812

272332

485776

0.13%

0.09%

158

Bak3dChips

0

0

478703

0.00%

0.00%

159

Fortekko

110721

238283

448292

0.10%

0.08%

160

DeMichel93

0

416

443570

0.00%

0.00%

161

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0

419801

0.00%

0.00%

162

SupremeMemes

0

0

395539

0.00%

0.00%

163

DocSwag

0

0

387749

0.00%

0.00%

164

erectus

12866

12866

380244

0.01%

0.00%

165

Jake the Fake Jake

35836

85409

343853

0.03%

0.03%

166

Ishimuro

0

23250

343000

0.00%

0.01%

167

kelvinhall05

20510

58197

331072

0.02%

0.02%

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k-lub

11229

34777

330468

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0.01%

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FakeGamerGuy

0

0

327774

0.00%

0.00%

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Tsunoda Acreo

4626

6873

320254

0.00%

0.00%

171

ChipWolf

0

0

317653

0.00%

0.00%

172

Mr.Sub

0

0

309131

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0.00%

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AJ Winslow

0

0

306513

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0.00%

174

Gargone77

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0

288430

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0.00%

175

Kallungi

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0

283610

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0.00%

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Reecedjc

0

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267384

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0.04%

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Fitsun

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93712

264493

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0.03%

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booksaw

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258049

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Chocolateer

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zac1atak1

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243877

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PoisonMusic99

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Matthew Townson

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240320

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bradcool22

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urielrocks5676

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Firefly2

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VisionT100

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drthunderball

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WaffleGod54

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202528

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Maj0rMisfit

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0.00%

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Humorfunking

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That_Dutch_Guy

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The overall team has seen slight boost to 265million points of production over the last 24hours.

 

Please remember we have minimum participation requirements, these are 100k points, 15WUs, and 15 days of having activity over the course of the whole month.

 

Also, I just want to add that if we suspect you are purposefully just skimming the minimum requirements you may be disqualified. If we see you produce one WU per day for the last 15days for instance we may feel the need to investigate.

 

Thanks for everyone who is involved in this event,

 

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36 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Either an Asus P8Z77-V LK or Asus Strix Z390-E. Also wouldn't that be restricted by SATA and such that also run off the chipset PCIe bus? and/or wouldn't it switch back and forth to using CPU and chipset lanes, thus still restricting one other card?

For socket 1151 boards there is a DMI interface between the CPU and PCH that is equivalent to 4 Lanes of PCIe3 and the PCH has 4 lanes of PCIe and you are correct in that these 4 Lanes from the PCH can also be shared with NVMe with each NVMe requiring one Lane but the SATA controller is usually a separate interface and does not reduce the PCIe Lanes but Gigabit Ethernet controllers can reduce the PCIe Lanes also. The main issue is even with the 4 Lanes extended to the third PCIe3 x16 slot running at x4 the DMI interface between the CPU and PCH will still be, in some cases, oversubscribed.

 

Im not as familiar with the AM4 architecture but from what I’ve seen most processors there have 20 Lanes but reserve 4 for the interconnect to the Southbridge and so have similar issues. Some of the lower end processors only have 8 lanes from the CPU to the Bus natively so when populating the first 2 PCIe3 x16 slots you end up with only x4/x4

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4 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

For socket 1151 boards there is a DMI interface between the CPU and PCH that is equivalent to 4 Lanes of PCIe3 and the PCH has 4 lanes of PCIe and you are correct in that these 4 Lanes from the PCH can also be shared with NVMe with each NVMe requiring one Lane but the SATA controller is usually a separate interface and does not reduce the PCIe Lanes but Gigabit Ethernet controllers can reduce the PCIe Lanes also. The main issue is even with the 4 Lanes extended to the third PCIe3 x16 slot running at x4 the DMI interface between the CPU and PCH will still be, in some cases, oversubscribed.

 

Im not as familiar with the AM4 architecture but from what I’ve seen most processors there have 20 Lanes but reserve 4 for the interconnect to the Southbridge and so have similar issues. Some of the lower end processors only have 8 lanes from the CPU to the Bus natively so when populating the first 2 PCIe3 x16 slots you end up with only x4/x4

No, the zepplin (zen) die has 32 lanes, 8 are reserved on am4 for the igpu you find on G series parts, 4 go to the Southbridge and 20 left over. 

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2 minutes ago, Gorgon said:

For socket 1151 boards there is a DMI interface between the CPU and PCH that is equivalent to 4 Lanes of PCIe3 and the PCH has 4 lanes of PCIe and you are correct in that these 4 Lanes from the PCH can also be shared with NVMe with each NVMe requiring one Lane but the SATA controller is usually a separate interface and does not reduce the PCIe Lanes but Gigabit Ethernet controllers can reduce the PCIe Lanes also. The main issue is even with the 4 Lanes extended to the third PCIe3 x16 slot running at x4 the DMI interface between the CPU and PCH will still be, in some cases, oversubscribed.

Yeah that's what I'm worried about. I'd rather just have my high end cards running at full strength rather than stealing from one of them to support a card that gets 1/10th of what a 1080 makes. Guess I have to get a new board for my 5820K LOL jk I don't have the money for that. But it would be cool, considering I have everything except a mobo/ram.

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46 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

A GPU does not store data, in the same way a CPU does not store data. All data is sent through the internet and held in RAM/mass storage, then drawn upon by the CPU, then sent to the GPU. There is a general performance loss on higher end GPUs when folding on 4x and fewer lanes

The consensus is that the loss from 8x to 4x is only a couple of percent and may be less noticeable under Linux. But you are correct that this is more noticeable on the higher end GPUs. I personally try to have a minimum of 8 PCIe3 lanes for some headroom and future proofing.

 

So you could likely run the 750ti on a x4 or x2 and it would likely produce more points but you’d have to take a long look at the motherboard in use.

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4 minutes ago, Cereal5 said:

Yeah that's what I'm worried about. I'd rather just have my high end cards running at full strength rather than stealing from one of them to support a card that gets 1/10th of what a 1080 makes. Guess I have to get a new board for my 5820K LOL jk I don't have the money for that. But it would be cool, considering I have everything except a mobo/ram.

My 2070 is folding along in a 9 year old motherboard that was too slow to run Windows apps.  So something used off Craig’s list or from a eWaste recycler could likely provide you with the rest of the parts you’d need.

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1 minute ago, Gorgon said:

My 2070 is folding along in a 9 year old motherboard that was too slow to run Windows apps.  So something used off Craig’s list or from a eWaste recycler could likely provide you with the rest of the parts you’d need.

Yeah I know, I just blew my budget on PC parts for the rest of the year on GPUs anyways so... lol

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10 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

No, the zepplin (zen) die has 32 lanes, 8 are reserved on am4 for the igpu you find on G series parts, 4 go to the Southbridge and 20 left over. 

also @Gorgon of the 20 left over 4 are semi-reserved for NVMe devices leaving you with 16 general purpose lanes. This means if you have a PCIe wifi card and two GPUs but no NVMe devices your GPUs are still limited to 8x per GPU. If you have three GPUs its cut down to 8x for slot one and 4x for the other two. 

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also @Gorgon of the 20 left over 4 are semi-reserved for NVMe devices leaving you with 16 general purpose lanes. This means if you have a PCIe wifi card and two GPUs but no NVMe devices your GPUs are still limited to 8x per GPU. If you have three GPUs its cut down to 8x for slot one and 4x for the other two. 

So it's literally the same as Intel, for all mainstream intents and purposes.

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Just now, Ben Quigley said:

also @Gorgon of the 20 left over 4 are semi-reserved for NVMe devices leaving you with 16 general purpose lanes. This means if you have a PCIe wifi card and two GPUs but no NVMe devices your GPUs are still limited to 8x per GPU. If you have three GPUs its cut down to 8x for slot one and 4x for the other two. 

So unlike the Intel 1151 all the PCIe Lanes come off the CPU and none from the Southbridge. Interesting. The 20 lane number I had stuck in my head must have been from looking at the Zen.

 

I was looking at the new low cost AMD sku today and noticed it only has 8 lanes for the PCIe bus which makes sense I suppose as it would need the other 8 for the integrated Vega GPU. This is regrettable as I was hoping to find a low cost 2C/4T CPU and the lower end Intel G5400 and G5500s are hard to find these days.

 

 

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So it's literally the same as Intel, for all mainstream intents and purposes.

Pretty much...

 

One thing I don't know is, if you use onboard ethernet or USB wofi if all GPUs would get 8x(24 lanes overall) without an NVMe device installed, as they are not actually fully reserved, I think it depends on what the BIOS tells the board to do in that situation. 

 

There is some speculation that the AM4 socket can deliver more lanes to the motherboard if the chip/packet allowed it, so who knows what the 3rd gen and 4th(if support goes this far) gen ryzen on AM4 will bring...

 

 

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So unlike the Intel 1151 all the PCIe Lanes come off the CPU and none from the Southbridge. Interesting. The 20 lane number I had stuck in my head must have been from looking at the Zen.

 

I was looking at the new low cost AMD sku today and noticed it only has 8 lanes for the PCIe bus which makes sense I suppose as it would need the other 8 for the integrated Vega GPU. This is regrettable as I was hoping to find a low cost 2C/4T CPU and the lower end Intel G5400 and G5500s are hard to find these days.

 

 

It is artificially limited, it uses the same die as the G series parts and thus can supply the same number of lanes as they can. 

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none from the Southbridge

Are southbridge and northbridge interchangeable? If so (or even if not) what are they actually? I've heard people refer to the Chipset as the northbridge... why don't they just call it the chipset.

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Are southbridge and northbridge interchangeable? If so (or even if not) what are they actually? I've heard people refer to the Chipset as the northbridge... why don't they just call it the chipset.

in the past you used to have a north bridge and a southbridge, but now, the northbridge is integrated into the CPU 'UnCore'. Intel dont even call it a southbridge anymore its called  the PCH.

 

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in the past you used to have a north bridge and a southbridge, but now, the northbridge is integrated into the CPU 'UnCore'. Intel dont even call it a southbridge anymore its called  the ICH.

And what does each do? (slash what is an ICH)

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Pretty much...

 

One thing I don't know is, if you use onboard ethernet or USB wofi if all GPUs would get 8x(24 lanes overall) without an NVMe device installed, as they are not actually fully reserved, I think it depends on what the BIOS tells the board to do in that situation. 

 

There is some speculation that the AM4 socket can deliver more lanes to the motherboard if the chip/packet allowed it, so who knows what the 3rd gen and 4th(if support goes this far) gen ryzen on AM4 will bring...

 

 

I’ve been working on a cost benefit analysis of 2-Slot versus 3-Slot folding rigs and am just in its initial stages but the number of lanes on socket 1151 and AM4 pretty much limit you to 2 x8.

The other major stumbling block I’d the slot spacing. The ATX form factor has 7 slots so in theory you could have 3 x16 slots space 3 apart but in practice I’ve only seen a couple of motherboards that do this. The other issue is without using a E-ATX chassis rated for 9 slots the last card, if 2 slots wide, would collide with the power supply or its shroud.

 

So the limit is practically 2 GPUs per system.

 

X99 with Xeon or the TR4 equivalents are just not cost effective looking purely at the value proposition. Yes, you could run 3 GPUs per board but it is still less expensive to use three ATX chassis with 6 cards than 2 X99 E-ATX chassis with the same 6 cards. And cooling is significantly easier in the smaller chassis.

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And what does each do? (slash what is an ICH)

the northbridge contained the memory controller, some of the PCIe logic and other similar things. And in some older cases the iGPU.

 

The southbridge has things like USB and SATA controllers, alsoon newer versions the PCIe controller was here. Befire this the PCI controller was here and the PCIe/AGP controller was in the north. 

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And what does each do? (slash what is an ICH)

PCH - Periphial Controller Hub (I/O)

ICH - I/O Controller Hub (Southbridge)

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1 minute ago, Gorgon said:

I’ve been working on a cost benefit analysis of 2-Slot versus 3-Slot folding rigs and am just in its initial stages but the number of lanes on socket 1151 and AM4 pretty much limit you to 2 x8.

The other major stumbling block I’d the slot spacing. The ATX form factor has 7 slots so in theory you could have 3 x16 slots space 3 apart but in practice I’ve only seen a couple of motherboards that do this. The other issue is without using a E-ATX chassis rated for 9 slots the last card, if 2 slots wide, would collide with the power supply or its shroud.

 

So the limit is practically 2 GPUs per system.

 

X99 with Xeon or the TR4 equivalents are just not cost effective looking purely at the value proposition. Yes, you could run 3 GPUs per board but it is still less expensive to use three ATX chassis with 6 cards than 2 X99 E-ATX chassis with the same 6 cards. And cooling is significantly easier in the smaller chassis.

I will do some testing without my PCIe wifi card after the folding month so see what happens in that situation if you like? 

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X99 with Xeon or the TR4 equivalents are just not cost effective looking purely at the value proposition. Yes, you could run 3 GPUs per board but it is still less expensive to use three ATX chassis with 6 cards than 2 X99 E-ATX chassis with the same 6 cards. And cooling is significantly easier in the smaller chassis.

Just use a LGA1366 system, like a L5630 which is around $6 per CPU on ebay. Can go either single socket or dual socket then mount as many GPUs as you can, using PCIe extension cables or what ever you like.

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I’ve been working on a cost benefit analysis of 2-Slot versus 3-Slot folding rigs and am just in its initial stages but the number of lanes on socket 1151 and AM4 pretty much limit you to 2 x8.

It'll depend on the GPU though won't it? If the GPU only needs a bus width equal to PCIe gen 3 x4, then you can run 3 and it'll be fine, no?

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PCH - Periphial Component Hub (I/O)

ICH - I/O Controller Hub (Southbridge)

Intel has had the Platform Controller Hub since 5th gen which is the unified chipset. 

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Just use a LGA1366 system, like a L5630 which is around $6 per CPU on ebay. Can go either single socket or dual socket then mount as many GPUs as you can, using PCIe extension cables or what ever you like.

And how much does RDIMM cost ?

 

I like the Xeons and I would gladly buy SuperMicro motherboards FOREVER but buying Mobos and LGA1366 CPUs and cooling off eBay is a bit too specialized for the casual user.

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dcn01: Fractal Meshify S2; Gigabyte Aorus ax570 Master; Ryzen 9 5900x; Noctua NH-D15; 4 x 16GB DDR4-3200; 512GB NVMe; 2 x Zotac AMP 4070ti; Corsair RM750Mx

dcn02: Fractal Meshify S2; Gigabyte ax570 Pro WiFi; Ryzen 9 3950x; Noctua NH-D15; 2 x 16GB DDR4-3200; 128GB NVMe; 2 x Zotac AMP 4070ti; Corsair RM750x

dcn03: Fractal Meshify C; Gigabyte Aorus z370 Gaming 5; i9-9900k; BeQuiet! PureRock 2 Black; 2 x 8GB DDR4-2400; 128GB SATA m.2; MSI 4070 Ti Super Gaming X; MSI 4070 Ti Super Ventus 2; Corsair TX650m

dcn05: Fractal Define S; Gigabyte Aorus b450m; Ryzen 7 2700; AMD Wraith; 2 x 8GB DDR 4-3200; 128GB SATA NVMe; Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4080 Super; Corsair TX750m

dcn06: Fractal Focus G Mini; Gigabyte Aorus b450m; Ryzen 7 2700; AMD Wraith; 2 x 8GB DDR 4-3200; 128GB SSD; Gigabyte Gaming RTX 4080 Super; Corsair CX650m

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