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so the RTX 2080ti has DLSS, ray-tracing, 30% performance gain compared to the 1080ti but costs almost double ARE YOU KIDDING ME! that price is insane for them to do that or just greedy, these GPU's should have triple the performance if they wanted to charge that much i have almost zero interest in the DLSS and ray-tracing

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Well..... Yes. ..... Its a stopgap measure untill 7nm. Its also a stop gap between traditional rastarized rendering and pathtrasing. Which is syrprisingly close.

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They should release a TU102 GPU without all the RT and Tensor cores for $700 and call it the GTX 2080Ti.

 

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Greed, and too much faith in their "brand", hoping people will pay through the nose for it IMO.

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assuming this isnt a troll thread, the 2080 ti is selling fine,fastest single card, no competition, but the math on buying a 2080 or 2070...debatable.

 

If there was ever a time to shove features down our throats, it's when there isn't any competition.

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If Nvidia charges this much for minimal performance gains, one can only imagine what theyll charge for 7nm gpus with significant gains. 1500? Thats assuming Nvidia ever bothers with significant performance increases. We’ll more than likely just see incremental gains with ever increasing prices. Why? Because they can. 

 

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You just realized this after >9000 threads you've opened? ?

 

There is a lot of premium on top of 2080 Ti.

1. Really large GPU die.

2. Tensor cores

3. RT cores

4. 12nm FinFet

5. Beefy cooler

6. RTX branding

 

I'm curious how much more power this card will consume when DLSS + ray tracing is enable.

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10 minutes ago, xAcid9 said:

You just realized this after >9000 threads you've opened? ?

 

There is a lot of premium on top of 2080 Ti.

1. Really large GPU die.

2. Tensor cores

3. RT cores

4. 12nm FinFet

5. Beefy cooler

6. RTX branding

 

I'm curious how much more power this card will consume when DLSS + ray tracing is enable.

I don't see any premium in that, not sure if I need the "RTX branding", the "Beefy cooler"(will watercool it anyway), the " 12nm FinFet "s(could just as weel be 16nm for me or smthing. And a really large GPU die sounds more like a cost saving thing but not giving us the benefit of it.

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So you want it all but for less. Makes sense. Guess we should all get everything we want. 

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I think it's the common problem of any first gen product. It always cost a lot more, and it didn't perform very well.

 

Think of the first gen iPhone , promised to change the world, but only runs on 2g. And didn't do texting or email any better than a cheaper blackberry. 

 

It's just a complete trash to budget minded (aka cheap) person like me. 

 

I think it's the same story for the 2080ti. Yes it is exciting in a technological stand point, and make no sense if you are looking for value. Just skip it. 

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I don't think it is unreasonable for us to ask for more performance with less money, it is what technology should always be.
Nvidia can pull off with the "iphone pricing model" only because AMD can't keep up, until there is the ryzen for gpu, I think nvidia can just do whatever they want.
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You are already getting more for less. Complaining about flagship pricing, it must be beyond your means. 

 

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Yeah you have that straight. It is what it is my guy. If you don't like the prices, don't buy the cards. I know I'm not. 


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If you want to play with the new tech, you have to pay. 

 

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Hopefully since nvidia has opened up a vulnerable spot AMD can actually release a good gpu with the same performance as a 2070 to a 2080ti (or close) without all the rt bs that some people don't want. Maybe the rumored amd cards will compete, or maybe not. Hopefully they do release new cards (like how they hit intel with ryzen out of no where) because I would be giddy for new amd cards

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I mean, I do agree that it is overpriced.  Although Nvidia kinda has a monopoly at the moment so they can price their products whatever they want.  Hopefully AMD will come out with something better.

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I wish I can get a $200,000 luxury car for $40k. But being a broke pleb, I know better. And I don’t bitch when I can’t get it. Quite a simple logic that doesn’t need posting about. Go buy a 1030 and play some mine sweeper. 

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On 9/30/2018 at 12:07 PM, maizenblue said:

If Nvidia charges this much for minimal performance gains, one can only imagine what theyll charge for 7nm gpus with significant gains. 1500? Thats assuming Nvidia ever bothers with significant performance increases. We’ll more than likely just see incremental gains with ever increasing prices. Why? Because they can. 

 

Come on AMD. We need you now more than ever before. Hopefully they can break the pattern of too little too late with Navi. 

minimal gains how many gens have you been around just recent ones?

 

On 9/30/2018 at 5:28 PM, Mick Naughty said:

You are already getting more for less. Complaining about flagship pricing, it must be beyond your means. 

 

 

46 minutes ago, Mick Naughty said:

I wish I can get a $200,000 luxury car for $40k. But being a broke pleb, I know better. And I don’t bitch when I can’t get it. Quite a simple logic that doesn’t need posting about. Go buy a 1030 and play some mine sweeper. 

people dont understand the best has a premium

 

and simple fact is titan sold for 1000-1200 at first last couple gens too and they seemed to sell fine for what? 30% in gains if that? then came along ti variant

same story just different name

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1 hour ago, pas008 said:

minimal gains how many gens have you been around just recent ones?

 

 

people dont understand the best has a premium

 

and simple fact is titan sold for 1000-1200 at first last couple gens too and they seemed to sell fine for what? 30% in gains if that? then came along ti variant

same story just different name

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1 hour ago, Syntaxvgm said:

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over your head

titans have been released first at 1k and 1200

titan x about 30% over 980

first pascal titan about 30% over 1080

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4 minutes ago, pas008 said:

over your head

titans have been released first at 1k and 1200

titan x about 30% over 980

first pascal titan about 30% over 1080

ah so well get a 2080ti-ti?

the whole point is the ti offers better than titan performance at a way cheaper price. Titan was early adopter tax. 

And now they're just doing away with the titan and making hte ti the titan price. 

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1 minute ago, Syntaxvgm said:

ah so well get a 2080ti-ti?

the whole point is the ti offers better than titan performance at a way cheaper price. Titan was early adopter tax. 

And now they're just doing away with the titan and making hte ti the titan price. 

we dont know what they will do

titan T with p6000 specs? no titan?

we dont know but the best always has a premium price which was already stated

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Just now, pas008 said:

we dont know what they will do

titan T with p6000 specs? no titan?

we dont know but the best always has a premium price which was already stated

so what are the chances the titan would be at ti prices? 
There's no way they are not going to take advantage of their clear gap over amd and price rape. 

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Just now, Syntaxvgm said:

so what are the chances the titan would be at ti prices? 
There's no way they are not going to take advantage of their clear gap over amd and price rape. 

same thing they did before lower the prices for new card or adjust for gap cards like we always see

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