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So i am going to buy a new ram tomorrow. In Indian markets there are many fake rams . The place i am going to buy is the biggest IT market in asia and here you can get awesome deals but the chance of getting a fake ram is high. How can i recognize if a ram is fake on the spot ? One way im gonna try is buy adata ram as it lets u check the ram serieal no. On their website. Other ram sites do not offer this. I know that cpu-z is lets you know if ram is fake but i cannot take my pc with me as it is far away. 

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2 minutes ago, Vivank said:

So i am going to buy a new ram tomorrow. In Indian markets there are many fake rams . The place i am going to buy is the biggest IT market in asia and here you can get awesome deals but the chance of getting a fake ram is high. How can i recognize if a ram is fake on the spot ? One way im gonna try is buy adata ram as it lets u check the ram serieal no. On their website. Other ram sites do not offer this. I know that cpu-z is lets you know if ram is fake but i cannot take my pc with me as it is far away. 

Realistically not really... If people are selling fake ram, then they could just either fabricate a sticker to put on the box/ram kit, or use a heat gun to remove it and reapply it to a new kit.. Only way to be 100% certain would be to test it and see how it reads in the BIOS. 

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Well you can try to look at the DRAM modules itself.

If it's from a weird brand, there's probably something fishy.

If it's from Samsung or Micron or another good brand it's either real or a very well done fake one.

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test it in a computer store. pay the shopkeeper a small amount of money for the service.

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Realistically not really... If people are selling fake ram, then they could just either fabricate a sticker to put on the box/ram kit, or use a heat gun to remove it and reapply it to a new kit.. Only way to be 100% certain would be to test it and see how it reads in the BIOS. 

The fake rams will also show up in bios. The bios can not tell if its real.

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The fake rams will also show up in bios. The bios can not tell if its real.

well it will tell you if its the proper size and speeds as rated on the kit sticker. 

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Well, in theory if you read the numbers off the RAM chips, determine their size (128MB/256MB/512MB) you can find out if it's really a 2GB/4GB/8GB stick or if they're lying.

 

I don't have a good solution to if the lie about what brand it is. Like if they say it's G.Skill but it was really made by Dell, or if the RAM is faulty without actually testing it.

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1 minute ago, samcool55 said:

Well you can try to look at the DRAM modules itself.

If it's from a weird brand, there's probably something fishy.

If it's from Samsung or Micron or another good brand it's either real or a very well done fake one.

Is the samsung or micron logo placed on the chips ? Can you elaborate a little.

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Have the vendor stick the ram in a PC and run MemTestX86.

If it's bad or fake, that program will suss it out.

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

test it in a computer store. pay the shopkeeper a small amount of money for the service.

I shall try that. Its a nice idea.

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6 minutes ago, Vivank said:

Is the samsung or micron logo placed on the chips ? Can you elaborate a little.

The black chips (DRAM modules) always have the brand printed on it and a model number. Logo, don't know, usually not because there's not much room.

But the name, always there, you can always look up the model number and see if it matches with the specs on the box.

 

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Have the vendor stick the ram in a PC and run MemTestX86.

If it's bad or fake, that program will suss it out.

The vendors are mostly rude and the shops are always busy. They do not even have a copy of windows in any system. They work with laptops.  There is no way he will ever agree to a 2 hour long test.

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3 minutes ago, Vivank said:

The vendors are mostly rude and the shops are always busy. They do not even have a copy of windows in any system. They work with laptops.  There is no way he will ever agree to a 2 hour long test.

Then you are at an impasse sadly. Best you can hope for it look at the actual chips and hope to recognize name brands, like mentioned above, Micron and so forth.

If you have network access there, you can google the chip numbers and see what comes up.

IMO honest vendors would not be rude about this stuff, only those trying to hide things.

 

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BTW, MemTestX86 runs off CD or USB....it'll spot bad ram in minutes

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13 minutes ago, legacy99 said:

Only way to be 100% certain would be to test it and see how it reads in the BIOS. 

Agreed that is the only way

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6 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Agreed that is the only way

My friend bought a ram from the same place. It shkwed the correct speed and capacity in the bios. When he came home and checked CPU-Z , the serial no. , Manufacturer name and product no. Was missing which all indicates that ot is a fake stick. I am not asking to check if it is working , fake rams will also work but they will go bad in a short period of time.

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30 minutes ago, Vivank said:

My friend bought a ram from the same place. It shkwed the correct speed and capacity in the bios. When he came home and checked CPU-Z , the serial no. , Manufacturer name and product no. Was missing which all indicates that ot is a fake stick. I am not asking to check if it is working , fake rams will also work but they will go bad in a short period of time.

Hence MemTestX86...

 

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43 minutes ago, Canada EH said:

Agreed that is the only way

They can fake the names, IDs and stuff so the BIOS will recognize it as legit, same with the fake USB sticks, fake SSDs or external drives, there were even fake CPUs some years ago...

 

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Usually the brand name is printed on both, sticker and the chips. So if you see that the brand name does not mach to the one on the chips there is a chance that it may be fake.

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12 hours ago, Vivank said:

So i am going to buy a new ram tomorrow. In Indian markets there are many fake rams . The place i am going to buy is the biggest IT market in asia and here you can get awesome deals but the chance of getting a fake ram is high. How can i recognize if a ram is fake on the spot ? One way im gonna try is buy adata ram as it lets u check the ram serieal no. On their website. Other ram sites do not offer this. I know that cpu-z is lets you know if ram is fake but i cannot take my pc with me as it is far away. 

Well, buy any peripheral with original GST bill, clearly mentioning the RAM part number and serial number. Fake or original, the bill is required for warranty. Unless you buy from roadside vendor. A bill ensures all in place.

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