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[bcredeur97]

@warmmilk did you ever do dirtfish rally school? 
 

Flights to Seattle from Baton Rouge are extremely cheap right now ($300 round trip cheap) so I’m kinda tempted to maybe visit the area and do that one day I’m there 

 

just curious if it’s worth it. 

[Bitter]

Solid lead EPA hammer. Hits good.

[Vonrottes]

I finally figured out how to get the 3m scotchlite to cut properly for tiny delicate stuff.

 

Also damn those wheels are dirty

[Beerzerker]

On a related note:
Since the hurricane has come in, the tidal surge is on and all that, I'm just wondering how many shops are gonna get "Flooded" themselves afterwards with all the work.
The majority I'm sure will be insurance claims for a totalled car and that's fine but still..... There will be alot of work to be done for the ones that can be fixed/saved along with some that's more or less irreplacable so it's either fix it or lose it.
BTW "Irreplacable" depends on what that means to an owner  - Depending on the individual owner.

I'm also wondering how many EV's are gonna "Get lit" this time around.
Give it about a week and I guess we'll find out.

[RevoltTrain]

On 8/28/2023 at 1:21 PM, Bitter said:

Nissan?

3rd gen Explorer

[warmmilk]

On 8/28/2023 at 7:29 PM, bcredeur97 said:

@warmmilk did you ever do dirtfish rally school? 
 

Flights to Seattle from Baton Rouge are extremely cheap right now ($300 round trip cheap) so I’m kinda tempted to maybe visit the area and do that one day I’m there 

 

just curious if it’s worth it. 

I haven't done it but have always wanted to.  if you decide to come out to do it, let me know and i'll see if I can join you.  from the people I've talked to that have done it, all love it and say its worth it.  but I haven't talked to anyone thats really into cars/driving that has done it.  just kinda like casually oh you know cars are cool and their wife got it for them as a present or a work thing or something.

[Bitter]

2000ish Jaguar electrical diagrams can eat a fat turd. Ffffffffffffuck. No congruity between OE and non OE information. One says ground P140 rear by battery, other says ground P|40 behind R/F tire, both show connected to the same circuits on one diagram, don't exist on another diagram, and I'm quickly dropping patience. I'm just going to assume all black wires at the PCM are ground .

And I don't have 100% OE information to work from, some information is only non OE and some is only OE and some is duplicated but doesn't match up.

[vetali]

8 hours ago, Bitter said:

2000ish Jaguar electrical diagrams can eat a fat turd. Ffffffffffffuck. No congruity between OE and non OE information. One says ground P140 rear by battery, other says ground P|40 behind R/F tire, both show connected to the same circuits on one diagram, don't exist on another diagram, and I'm quickly dropping patience. I'm just going to assume all black wires at the PCM are ground .

And I don't have 100% OE information to work from, some information is only non OE and some is only OE and some is duplicated but doesn't match up.

I hate 2000s euro car electrical issues. Newer ones seem to have much better diagrams and documentation for regular repairs.

 

You ever do injectors on a GM 3.6?

[Bitter]

1 hour ago, vetali said:

I hate 2000s euro car electrical issues. Newer ones seem to have much better diagrams and documentation for regular repairs.

 

You ever do injectors on a GM 3.6?

Direct injected? No but on a 2.4L and some HyunKia's. You pretty much absolutely need the cone to stretch the injector seal over the nozzle without ripping it and then the shrinking tool to get it to fit into groove and not hang out and get snagged on reinstall. I imagine the 3.6 is similar to the 2.4's? Or do you mean the older port injected ones? I can't say I've seen a bad GDI injector on a GM honestly, they've been fairly fault free...can't say as much for the timing chain system, PCV system, and HPFP's.

 

Pretty sure the Jag is a bad ECM, has power, has ign switched power, has grounds, it's getting the crank request from the ignition switch, it's not spitting out a crank enable ground to the starter relay and when I provide the ground and have the key held in crank it doesn't start just cranks...oh yeah and I have no comms with the ECM. I'm going to try generic comms again next week but I can talk to every other module in the vehicle except the steering column lock module but I doubt that's got anything to do with this, other modules have no ECM comms codes set in them, dash is spitting a bunch of faults, and other modules have ECM comms codes.

[vetali]

50 minutes ago, Bitter said:

Direct injected? No but on a 2.4L and some HyunKia's. You pretty much absolutely need the cone to stretch the injector seal over the nozzle without ripping it and then the shrinking tool to get it to fit into groove and not hang out and get snagged on reinstall. I imagine the 3.6 is similar to the 2.4's? Or do you mean the older port injected ones? I can't say I've seen a bad GDI injector on a GM honestly, they've been fairly fault free...can't say as much for the timing chain system, PCV system, and HPFP's.

 

Pretty sure the Jag is a bad ECM, has power, has ign switched power, has grounds, it's getting the crank request from the ignition switch, it's not spitting out a crank enable ground to the starter relay and when I provide the ground and have the key held in crank it doesn't start just cranks...oh yeah and I have no comms with the ECM. I'm going to try generic comms again next week but I can talk to every other module in the vehicle except the steering column lock module but I doubt that's got anything to do with this, other modules have no ECM comms codes set in them, dash is spitting a bunch of faults, and other modules have ECM comms codes.

I forget the older PFI 3.6 exists, they are becoming extinct on the roads. It was DI. They were aftermarket delco injectors so they had the seals installed. It was one of the worst jobs I've ever done and I'll refuse to do them again. Worse than Caddy northstar head gaskets. I messed up the clip orientation and at that point I gave up because I didn't have a seal tool, sent it to my buddy that is manager at a GM dealership, and 2 techs went out injured that worked on it. Legitimately a cursed vehicle.

 

Honda DI injectors are gravy, and they go bad pretty often. They come with the seals preinstalled, installed as a full set, don't have a gigantic plastic harness that prevents removal on the v6s. I can do v6s in 45 minutes and 4 cylinders in about 2 hours.

 

Sounds like a bad ECM. Wonder how hard it is to find one for a 2000s jag lol.

[Bitter]

19 minutes ago, vetali said:

I forget the older PFI 3.6 exists, they are becoming extinct on the roads. It was DI. They were aftermarket delco injectors so they had the seals installed. It was one of the worst jobs I've ever done and I'll refuse to do them again. Worse than Caddy northstar head gaskets. I messed up the clip orientation and at that point I gave up because I didn't have a seal tool, sent it to my buddy that is manager at a GM dealership, and 2 techs went out injured that worked on it. Legitimately a cursed vehicle.

 

Honda DI injectors are gravy, and they go bad pretty often. They come with the seals preinstalled, installed as a full set, don't have a gigantic plastic harness that prevents removal on the v6s. I can do v6s in 45 minutes and 4 cylinders in about 2 hours.

 

Sounds like a bad ECM. Wonder how hard it is to find one for a 2000s jag lol.

I'm guessing discontinued probably and since it needs anti-theft programming probably used is out of the question unless we get a gauge cluster and key and ECM as a set since I think they're all coded together. Even then, probabably not worth all that, not super high miles but I'm betting the owner doesn't want to invest that kind of money on a maybe fix. I think I'll see what's missing, spark or fuel, that's doing the crank/no start and check if the ECM is missing more outputs just to make myself feel better about being right.

 

Thankfully we haven't run into those bad, just several timing chain jobs where you drop the whole power train on the cradle out the bottom, usually pull the TECHM at the same time and have the trans shop up the street replace the switch membranes since often it's timing codes AND pressure switch codes.

[vetali]

34 minutes ago, Bitter said:

I'm guessing discontinued probably and since it needs anti-theft programming probably used is out of the question unless we get a gauge cluster and key and ECM as a set since I think they're all coded together. Even then, probabably not worth all that, not super high miles but I'm betting the owner doesn't want to invest that kind of money on a maybe fix. I think I'll see what's missing, spark or fuel, that's doing the crank/no start and check if the ECM is missing more outputs just to make myself feel better about being right.

 

Thankfully we haven't run into those bad, just several timing chain jobs where you drop the whole power train on the cradle out the bottom, usually pull the TECHM at the same time and have the trans shop up the street replace the switch membranes since often it's timing codes AND pressure switch codes.

Damn, thing might be totaled then.

 

Lift tables make powertrain drops and installs sooo easy. Don't see many transmission issues other than the typical GM 6Ls and Honda HR-V exploding transmissions. Seeing more issues with the later 6 speed Honda transmissions lately. Still haven't seen any issues on the ZF9 that Honda uses. A few 10 speed replacements.

[Bitter]

7 hours ago, vetali said:

Damn, thing might be totaled then.

 

Lift tables make powertrain drops and installs sooo easy. Don't see many transmission issues other than the typical GM 6Ls and Honda HR-V exploding transmissions. Seeing more issues with the later 6 speed Honda transmissions lately. Still haven't seen any issues on the ZF9 that Honda uses. A few 10 speed replacements.

We just set 4 jack stands under the frame and raise the car up. Cheap but effective, don't really have the space for a lift table.

[vetali]

11 hours ago, Bitter said:

We just set 4 jack stands under the frame and raise the car up. Cheap but effective, don't really have the space for a lift table.

Yeah thats one of the cons with them, they take up a lot of room and are super heavy. Ours is designed for EV batteries. I think its like 3000lb capacity, pneumatic lift.

[Bitter]

31 minutes ago, vetali said:

Yeah thats one of the cons with them, they take up a lot of room and are super heavy. Ours is designed for EV batteries. I think its like 3000lb capacity, pneumatic lift.

We've barely had a functionnal welder for over a year, finally got a new handle and cable assembly for it. We can MIG weld again, first comment from the boss when I laid a test bead "wow I've never heard it weld that good before". Gas nozzle was live and shorting the arc every time it touched the work. New handle is cheap crap but it works fine and has cheap consumables. Same comment when I finally got him to get a real gas regulator "wow it's never welded this good before". Yeah it's like if you don't have cobbled together stuff it usually works pretty good! It's only suitable for light stuff but it's enough to get out of a jam if you need to weld a nut back down that's broke loose or weld some exhaust together. I need to do some more practice welds now that it's actually working right but it's pretty easy shit, it's MIG after all and I learned on gas and arc...I have tig'd but I wouldn't say I'm good at it.

[vetali]

1 hour ago, Bitter said:

We've barely had a functionnal welder for over a year, finally got a new handle and cable assembly for it. We can MIG weld again, first comment from the boss when I laid a test bead "wow I've never heard it weld that good before". Gas nozzle was live and shorting the arc every time it touched the work. New handle is cheap crap but it works fine and has cheap consumables. Same comment when I finally got him to get a real gas regulator "wow it's never welded this good before". Yeah it's like if you don't have cobbled together stuff it usually works pretty good! It's only suitable for light stuff but it's enough to get out of a jam if you need to weld a nut back down that's broke loose or weld some exhaust together. I need to do some more practice welds now that it's actually working right but it's pretty easy shit, it's MIG after all and I learned on gas and arc...I have tig'd but I wouldn't say I'm good at it.

I've been begging them to get a new welder at work. Ours is an old Hobofart, feed motor has a dead spot in it. If ya hit it with some momentum it'll just hiccup at your bead... if you start it at the dead spot then you have to manually turn it.

 

My old work had a gucci'd out Miller MIG. It was nice, but I hated using it because it was always for exhaust work. I hated exhaust work and we hardly made money off it.

[Bitter]

2 hours ago, vetali said:

I've been begging them to get a new welder at work. Ours is an old Hobofart, feed motor has a dead spot in it. If ya hit it with some momentum it'll just hiccup at your bead... if you start it at the dead spot then you have to manually turn it.

 

My old work had a gucci'd out Miller MIG. It was nice, but I hated using it because it was always for exhaust work. I hated exhaust work and we hardly made money off it.

Lincoln SP-85 dating from pre-1991 but it works, traded a customer for it years ago. We did brakes, she gave us welder. She got the welder when some jerk abandoned it in her storage barn. We all win.

[Vonrottes]

Was supposed to  take the truck out today and finish tuning but my wideband had other plans.... So instead of getting some shots on the road here's a quick shot at the neighborhood park

 

Having the door decals back on really make it look a lot better 

[8tg]

The alternators huddle together before the impending winter, gathering their flock before migrating south for the winter.

[8tg]

Also how common is this? I feel this has happened to me more than a few times

ordered a new mass airflow sensor, just the duralast one

What show up is someone else’s used mass airflow sensor

it’s not even for my car, it’s a whole different size than the one on my car

 

[Beerzerker]

35 minutes ago, 8tg said:

The alternators huddle together before the impending winter, gathering their flock before migrating south for the winter.

I woudn't complain too much if a few decided to roost here for the winter - Only need a couple - That would be fine (And then I'd let them breed).

[vetali]

4 hours ago, 8tg said:

Also how common is this? I feel this has happened to me more than a few times

ordered a new mass airflow sensor, just the duralast one

What show up is someone else’s used mass airflow sensor

I've received used brake rotors before. I just always assumed it was a worker pulling the old switcheroo for themself or a buddy.

[Bitter]

14 hours ago, 8tg said:

Also how common is this? I feel this has happened to me more than a few times

ordered a new mass airflow sensor, just the duralast one

What show up is someone else’s used mass airflow sensor

it’s not even for my car, it’s a whole different size than the one on my car

 

REFURBISHED TO OEM SPECS.

Retail parts stores are always a setup for disaster or disappointment. Counter guy at one literally told me it was fine to use fuel line for trans and power steering.

[iBabySlapper]

There's been a sudden heat wave the last week, and one of the coils decided it's had enough lol.

 

Scanner shows cylinder 1 misfire, so I'm hoping it's a coil. I had a set of spark plugs spare, so I replaced cyl 1, but no change, so I'm really hoping the coils that are coming tomorrow will fix it. Because if it doesn't, it's going to be expensive..

 

Edit: Moved cyl 1 coil to cyl 4, and the code moved, so it's just the coil. Thank God it's not the fuel pump, or the injector, or b the charcoal canister, or the ECU.

[Beef Boss]

Weird question here - anyone have experience making their own cabin air filters? It’s getting more and more difficult sourcing the air filters for my Mazda protege much less even finding a single filter for less than 50 dollars on eBay. 
 

No North American protégés came with cabin air filters, I like installing them for obvious reasons. The only ones that work are for the Mazda premacy which has the same internal air box but are a European/ Asian based version. 
 

I’m thinking of just cutting out the old filter media, while it is super tough with the charcoal inside, and putting a big bead of glue down to adhere the new media to the frames of the filter. 
 

are there any other North American cars that came with a charcoal filter?