Apple Watch is the Wearables King

[Sniperfox47]

2 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Integrates with the Apple ecosystem, has the best health sensors available, has an app ecosystem, has the workouts app, is highly customizable, higher resolution and better quality displays, Apple Music, can unlock your Mac just by being near it, and I belive no other smart watch locks if you take it off. 

 

Oh and it has a night stand mode which is pretty cool. 

 

And the Apple Watch doesn’t have a “glance” feature but it’s OLED panel turns on if you rotate your wrist. Really seems more efficient than just leaving your display on all the time. 

Half of those are multiples of the same thing. Isn't "Unlocks my mac" a part of "Integrates with the Apple ecosystem" ? Isn't "has a workout app" part of "has an app ecosystem??" And the other half is a part of most other smartwatches

 

Android Wear watches have a toooooooooooooon of apps available for them, including workout apps, many have similar screen densities, are far more customizable, and have the option to lock when you take them off.

 

I don't get where you're saying that the Apple Watch has a higher resolution or nicer screen. The 42mm Apple Watch is 312x390. The OG Huawei watch is 400x400 and has an equally vivid amoled screen. And that's not even a particularly new watch. The density for the OG Huawei watch was about 3/4 that of the Apple watch, but the density of the Huawei Watch 2 matches it... So...

 

They can also be used to unlock Windows 10, ChromeOS, or Linux based devices (not Mac's because Apple are dicks and won't let them), integrate with any Music service you want other than Apple Music (because Apple are dicks and won't let them).

 

I was asking for things these don't have, and you gave me a list of things they do...

[Drak3]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

But if you would prefer the dispay be on all the time why does that matter? It would have been on anyway.....

I'd rather have the display on but ignore all interaction unless I pressed a physical button or move my wrist to a certain position than my device interacting with my sleeve or pocket when the screen should be off.

[DrMacintosh]

5 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

Usuaully there are things in my other hand that make that awkward and annoying.

Your nose works like a finger ya know 

[79wjd]

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Your nose works like a finger ya know 

Been there, done that; still annoying.

[Sniperfox47]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

I'd rather have the display on but ignore all interaction unless I pressed a physical button or move my wrist to a certain position than my device interacting with my sleeve or pocket when the screen should be off.

And maybe dimmed and in a high contrast mode...

 

OH WAIT! That's what Android Wear 2.8/9 does on watches with AMOLED screens! >,<

Just now, DrMacintosh said:

Your nose works like a finger ya know 

But seriously for anyone who works with their hands an always-on mode is crazy useful. Usually when I'm at work and trying to check my watch, I don't have the freedom of movement to flick my wrist up to my face, because I'm carrying armfulls of things.

[dizmo]

46 minutes ago, Niksa said:

Their stubbornness in non integrating their software with Apple health kit doesn't help them.

 

For me personally Apple watch is a nice product, but I am old style analog watch guy and charging my watch every two days seems ridiculous

The only smartwatch I am thinking about getting it is Suunto because I go to mountains quite often and Suunto is the king for that kind of application. Also I don't want to wear my nice watch while handling with ropes, ice axes etc. because for sure I would break it really fast.

Haha yeah same here. Until they have full day of always on battery life, I'm simply not interested. Not only that, if I have my phone on me anyway, I don't really see the point of the watch.

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

Been there, done that; still annoying.

I haven’t noticed ?

[DrMacintosh]

Just now, dizmo said:

Haha yeah same here. Until they have full day of always on battery life, I'm simply not interested. Not only that, if I have my phone on me anyway, I don't really see the point of the watch.

Also these dispays are OLED, an always on display is a death sentence for these panels.

[Drak3]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Haha yeah same here. Until they have full day of always on battery life, I'm simply not interested. Not only that, if I have my phone on me anyway, I don't really see the point of the watch.

The point of the watch is to spend more money on useless shit.

 

Or a fitness tracker.

 

Or as a basic remote for your music player.

 

But mostly the first one.

2 minutes ago, Sniperfox47 said:

And maybe dimmed and in a high contrast mode...

 

OH WAIT! That's what Android Wear 2.8/9 does on watches with AMOLED screens! >,<

Wouldn't know, had a Gear Fit, lost it, now have a Tizen based Gear Fit 2, miss the OG fit.

[Sniperfox47]

6 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Also these dispays are OLED, an always on display is a death sentence for these panels.

Umm... What? You do realize there's burn in mitigation techniques right? Samsung and AW have done this forever.

• Dim display to decrease burn in
• Set screen in a high contrast mode to increase visibility
• Offset the display periodically to wear-level the device

I've had my Huawei watch in Always-on mode literally since the thing launched 2 and a half years ago, and have no noticable burn in.

 

P.S. those steps are automated by the OS as part of the Always On mode. Nothing the user even needs to do.

[dizmo]

12 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Also these dispays are OLED, an always on display is a death sentence for these panels.

You could just have the time move around the screen slowly. Problem solved.

8 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

The point of the watch is to spend more money on useless shit.

 

Or a fitness tracker.

 

Or as a basic remote for your music player.

 

But mostly the first one.

Basically. Which is what Apple people are exceptional at.

[DrMacintosh]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

You could just have the time move around the screen slowly. Problem solved.

Alternatively you can do nothing and keep your functional watch faces and not only be able to display time because of screen size limitations. 

 

I for one would much rather have this Watch Face only show up when I flick my wrist rather than have my Apple Watch always show the time

[CHiSTe]

I was dubious about buying a smartwatch but when I bought my Apple Watch Series 3 I had wondered if I had done wrong but the ability to see notifications, reply to texts, make phone calls, go swimming and various other things that I couldn't do with some of my other "normal" watches just made me enjoy my watch, even more, its a luxury to not have to take out my phone to see who has text or what has gone off...its definitely a luxury item for pure convenience sake but I like it and I think that's the thing with a lot of people, it just blends so well with the iPhone that I feel like it's more one device hand in hand than two seperate devices.

[79wjd]

4 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Alternatively you can do nothing and keep your functional watch faces and not only be able to display time because of screen size limitations. 

 

I for one would much rather have this Watch Face only show up when I flick my wrist rather than have my Apple Watch always show the time

 

There's still no reason for the option not to exist.

[Sniperfox47]

3 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

Alternatively you can do nothing and keep your functional watch faces and not only be able to display time because of screen size limitations. 

 

I for one would much rather have this Watch Face only show up when I flick my wrist rather than have my Apple Watch always show the time

Just for the record, Android Wear supports displaying watches as complex and with as many complications as that.

 

The only difference that would happen with the AW Always On system, is all of those icons would be black-and-white, and the screen would dim.

[DrMacintosh]

2 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

There's still no reason for the option not to exist.

Well there is a reason, many just don't like the principle of said reason. It's not there because Apple doesn't want it there. At least not right now. 

[rattacko123]

2 hours ago, The Benjamins said:

To be honest all the current smartwatches suck, It is like manufactures don't understand why people wear and collect watches.

The original pebble watch was pretty great (I have the pebble steel), but then they ruined the software experience (I don't want the main feature of my watch to be the calender feature) and added a bunch of fitness bullsh*t. 
These days, Garmin does get pretty close but the software isn't quite as good as the original pebble v2.0 software (kinda a pain to read notifications on the garmin and the settings menu is confusing as hell).

[79wjd]

1 minute ago, rattacko123 said:

The original pebble watch was pretty great (I have the pebble steel), but then they ruined the software experience (I don't want the main feature of my watch to be the calender feature) and added a bunch of fitness bullsh*t. 
These days, Garmin does get pretty close but the software isn't quite as good as the original pebble v2.0 software (kinda a pain to read notifications on the garmin and the settings menu is confusing as hell).

I tested out a Garmin Vivoactive 3 for about ten minutes before writing it off due to the awful looking screen, the vastly inferior side swiping compared to a rotating bezel, and a much better experience with Tizen.

[vetali]

Having the series 3, I mostly enjoy the apple watch. I can get 3 days of battery life in it, the face (sport) is holding up shockingly well in a pretty rough environment as an auto tech (brushing across metal brackets and such does not scratch it), and it is useful for a notification viewer while at work. I would sacrifice battery life for an always on display because 70% of the time I have to emphasize my wrist movement to get it to kick on. I wish there was a watch face store, but the modular face is pretty good. Apps feel completely useless for the most part. Crown is too easy to press while bending my wrist. I don't wear mine while sleeping because of the crown, a few times after putting it back on in the morning it alerts me that it detected a heart rate of 150+ BPM while resting.... while it was sitting on a desk...

 

Would of preferred the Pebble, but that didn't really work out.

[Mooshi]

Series 3 sucks ass.

 

The back end is a mess activating them and then because of number share, you can't just simply transfer owner ship. You are forced to disconnect the line, add a new line and then go through activation all over again.

 

Anyone who has to deal with these things outside of the consumer side loathes dealing with them.

[DrMacintosh]

34 minutes ago, vetali said:

a few times after putting it back on in the morning it alerts me that it detected a heart rate of 150+ BPM while resting.... while it was sitting on a desk...

I would not dismiss that, I’ve never had inaccurate warnings before. If it says your heart rate elevated while doing nothing it probably did. Your heart doesn’t do everything based on physical activity after all. 

 

It warns you to make sure you know your heart is beating fast and if it shouldn’t be you can do something. Be that go to a doctor or check if the Watch is going crazy. 

[vetali]

5 minutes ago, DrMacintosh said:

I would not dismiss that, I’ve never had inaccurate warnings before. If it says your heart rate elevated while doing nothing it probably did. Your heart doesn’t do everything based on physical activity after all. 

 

It warns you to make sure you know your heart is beating fast and if it shouldn’t be you can do something. Be that go to a doctor or check if the Watch is going crazy. 

I would of noticed if I had a 150bpm heart rate while sitting.

[DrMacintosh]

8 minutes ago, vetali said:

I would of noticed if I had a 150bpm heart rate while sitting.

You would think. I still wouldn’t take its readings lightly. I have mine set to not alert me unless it goes above 110. I often play games where my heart rate gets up pretty high so I don’t want that going off when I’m playing. 

[vetali]

1 minute ago, DrMacintosh said:

You would think. I still wouldn’t take its readings lightly. I have mine set to not alert me unless it goes above 110. I often play games where my heart rate gets up pretty high so I don’t want that going off when I’m playing. 

the point is, it made the readings while I was not wearing the watch.

[DrMacintosh]

3 minutes ago, vetali said:

the point is, it made the readings while I was not wearing the watch.

I didn’t catch that part. It obviously wasn’t reading a person then. Theoretically it should have just turned off the sensors when it left your wrist but for some reason it didn’t. 

 

Probs Ghost ?