Unhappy with ryzen 3 performance. (what should I upgrade it to?)

[mrchow19910319]

1 chrome tab with twitch.tv playing at 1080p and one LOL client gave me 100% CPU usage. 

wtf? Is ryzen 3 too weak??

 

[RollinLower]

well, what processes where running? can you give us a screenshot of the taskmanager when your CPU usage spikes?

[seon123]

Which GPU and monitor did you use, and framerate were you at?

[mrchow19910319]

I have a 1440p screen and my frame rate in game was like 100?? And I am using a GTX1060 3GB and 8GB of ram. 

iF the stream is the active tab, then my cpu usage is as high as 95%. 

 

@RollinLower @seon123

 

[mrchow19910319]

Also when playing CPU intensive game, sometimes the graphic will "lag" for a second. Especially when just loading the map...

I think ryzen 3 is too weak.... =.= 

[seon123]

37 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

Also when playing CPU intensive game, sometimes the graphic will "lag" for a second. Especially when just loading the map...

I think ryzen 3 is too weak.... =.= 

You did overclock it, right?

[RollinLower]

2 hours ago, mrchow19910319 said:

Also when playing CPU intensive game, sometimes the graphic will "lag" for a second. Especially when just loading the map...

I think ryzen 3 is too weak.... =.= 

No, we need an actual shot of the processes running in taskmanager when CPU hits 100. So we can see what process is taking up the CPU's power. Since you seem to have a cracked version of TW3 on your desktop ( ) it might actually be a virus.

[mrchow19910319]

32 minutes ago, RollinLower said:

No, we need an actual shot of the processes running in taskmanager when CPU hits 100. So we can see what process is taking up the CPU's power. Since you seem to have a cracked version of TW3 on your desktop ( ) it might actually be a virus.

nope only a trainer. had antivirus opened at the back ground. 

2 hours ago, seon123 said:

You did overclock it, right?

nope... dont know how to. using GA-AB350N wifi mobo. Can I overclock it? 

 

the one that has a bunch of chinese characters are the log in program for League. It is legit. Official one from league. 

the second screen shot just shows how much cpu does chrome use when streaming 1080p from twitch. 

PS if twitch is running in the background tabs, then CPU usage is at 30-35%, as long as you bring it as your active tab, CPU usage jumps to 70%.

 

[seon123]

On 11/16/2017 at 7:33 AM, mrchow19910319 said:

nope only a trainer. had antivirus opened at the back ground. 

nope... dont know how to. using GA-AB350N wifi mobo. Can I overclock it? 

 

the one that has a bunch of chinese characters are the log in program for League. It is legit. Official one from league. 

the second screen shot just shows how much cpu does chrome use when streaming 1080p from twitch. 

PS if twitch is running in the background tabs, then CPU usage is at 30-35%, as long as you bring it as your active tab, CPU usage jumps to 70%.

You can overclock it. Do it. 

You can set LoL as high priority in task manager, I think. 

[mrchow19910319]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

You can overclock it. Do it. 

You can set LoL as high priority in task manager, I think. 

ok/ let me ask you this though, a ryzen 3 is roughly equals to a low tier i5? or mid tier i5 or? an i3? or?? 

[seon123]

7 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

ok/ let me ask you this though, a ryzen 3 is roughly equals to a low tier i5? or mid tier i5 or? an i3? or?? 

A bit below a locked Kaby I5 or Coffee I3. Usually

[johnukguy]

Are you using a 32 bit OS?

[mrchow19910319]

52 minutes ago, johnukguy said:

Are you using a 32 bit OS?

nope 64bit windows 10 1440p monitor

[Ashiella]

On 11/16/2017 at 4:24 AM, mrchow19910319 said:

I have a 1440p screen and my frame rate in game was like 100?? And I am using a GTX1060 3GB and 8GB of ram. 

iF the stream is the active tab, then my cpu usage is as high as 95%. 

 

@RollinLower @seon123

 

We all see the torrented witcher 3 "Xiang" and the chinese, also why fraps?

[mrchow19910319]

6 minutes ago, Ashiella said:

We all see the torrented witcher 3 "Xiang" and the chinese, also why fraps?

Its a trainer, why everyone so focus on that? 

fraps to check in game fps? anything wrong with that ? 

[Ashiella]

1 minute ago, mrchow19910319 said:

Its a trainer, why everyone so focus on that? 

fraps to check in game fps? anything wrong with that ? 

Because.

yes, nvidia does it, uplay does it, steam does it

[mrchow19910319]

1 minute ago, Ashiella said:

Because.

yes, nvidia does it, uplay does it, steam does it

okay... i need to check how to use those to check in game FPS.... i've always used fraps. 

[Technomancer__]

On 11/16/2017 at 7:33 AM, mrchow19910319 said:

nope only a trainer. had antivirus opened at the back ground. 

nope... dont know how to. using GA-AB350N wifi mobo. Can I overclock it? 

 

the one that has a bunch of chinese characters are the log in program for League. It is legit. Official one from league. 

the second screen shot just shows how much cpu does chrome use when streaming 1080p from twitch. 

PS if twitch is running in the background tabs, then CPU usage is at 30-35%, as long as you bring it as your active tab, CPU usage jumps to 70%

Why is that process below lol in Chinese

That might be the problem

Btw press the CPU so it shows the process that use the most CPU time first

[mrchow19910319]

6 minutes ago, Ethocreeper said:

Why is that process below lol in Chinese

That might be the problem

Btw press the CPU so it shows the process that use the most CPU time first

cos im chinese. and thats the launcher for league in china. 

the official one. not a virus. 

[iHDCool]

I'd suspect a faulty HDD or a virus. Either one, do some checks. 

Also, why dont you upgrade to win 64.. 

[mrchow19910319]

43 minutes ago, iHDCool said:

I'd suspect a faulty HDD or a virus. Either one, do some checks. 

Also, why dont you upgrade to win 64.. 

ok i will do those. 

also i am on 64 bit system...

[mrchow19910319]

Have been using the newly built system for like a month. And be honest I thought it would perform better than it actually did. 

• Ryzen 3 1200
• 8GB of ram
• GTX1060 3GB EVGA single fan reference edition 
• 450W PSU

Still the same issue (I haven't overclock it..) , CPU usage is way too high. And it hinders gaming performance a lot. 

1. One time I let steam downloads in the background while playing SC2, the fps I got dipped to 13-16. While normally I get 45-60. 
2. One starcraft client, and one steam download at the background the CPU usage is nearly 100%. 
3. There was a few times I encountered some sort of graphic stuttering  while playing different games. Sometimes GTA V sometimes sc2. And i heard one of the reasons that games stutter is because of the CPU is too weak.
4. Watching twitch.tv at 1080p in chrome, CPU usage can be as high as 90%.

Those are just some example of my daily usage.... 

 

Now, is it so slow that is barely usable? No. It works "fine" 90% of the time. And I am pretty sure it is not a virus or something, if it is, the CPU usage should be all time high. While in reality, it only spikes when doing CPU intensive tasks. It's just that it spikes a bit too high. (to my personal taste). And gaming performance does get hindered a bit. 

 

The thing I want to ask is this:

1. Am I just being paranoid because my last desktop had a i7 4770 and the cpu usage has never been that high.. Or I should just upgrade to another one. 
2. If I am planning to upgrade to another one: 
   1. Should I still stick with Ryzen platform? Like get a R7 1700? Or I should switch back to intel. (I dont mind selling the mobo and r3 1200)
   2. Or I should wait for ryzen refresh that is coming early next year? 
   3. If I choose to switch to intel, does the 8th gen i5 can do a decent job? I heard that the 8th gen i5 performs like a 7 gen i7. Is it true? 

 

 

I am a bit confused. I am leaning toward just sell the whole combo and switch back to intel. Get a 8th gen i5/i7 (i7 is a bit of a stretch..) 

What do you guys think??? 

[Drak3]

7980XE or J4205...

 

 

Serious answer, I'd swing for the 8700K.

[TrigrH]

You do realise an i7 4770 is faster than ryzen 3 right?

[RadiatingLight]

1 minute ago, TrigrH said:

You do realise an i7 4770 is faster than ryzen 3 right?

+1

4770K is much better than a Ryzen 3 -- Equivalent to maybe a 1500X