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Why do some high end PSU'S come with bags?

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10 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Are you expecting any other answer beyond 'To put the PSU and cables inside'...?

You know you don't need a nice bag to put a metal box and some cables in. You can put the metal box in some bubble wrap and the cables in a ziplock.

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Just now, theninja35 said:

You know you don't need a nice bag to put a metal box and some cables in. You can put the metal box in some bubble wrap and the cables in a ziplock.

But I like the bag.  I use the bag from my EVGA SuperNova's to store unused modular cables in. It's useful.

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Even if you don't think putting the cables in it is a good justification, it's... Well, actually, if that's the case you're just wrong. Even beyond simply storing them, modular cables are generally rather proprietary despite the very similar (and often identical) connectors, so keeping them straight with branded bags is preferable.

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51 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

So you're trying to argue that storing cables in the bag is not 'putting the cables in the bag'...?  Kay.  That's, uhh... Super special of you. o.O

Uh, no? You said there was not more to a bag than that and I'm arguing there is. It's super special of you to forget how to read, dude. Stay on topic.

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You can put your cables in the bag, so you don't mix them up with another brand PSU, and fry your motherboard in the process.

I am seriously not understanding the problem here.

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32 minutes ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

so you don't mix them up with another brand PSU, and fry your motherboard in the process.

Is that even a concern?  I've seen it posed as a hypothetical but I've never heard of it happening.  It seems most PSU makers either have cables that are safely inter compatible by using the same keying or keyed so differently that using the 'wrong' cable from another manufacturer is basically impossible unless you pound the connector into the PSU with a hammer.

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Just extra wank factor to make you feel good about buying something.

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57 minutes ago, AshleyAshes said:

Is that even a concern?  I've seen it posed as a hypothetical but I've never heard of it happening.  It seems most PSU makers either have cables that are safely inter compatible by using the same keying or keyed so differently that using the 'wrong' cable from another manufacturer is basically impossible unless you pound the connector into the PSU with a hammer.

Honestly, I have no idea.  Never tried it out.

 

@CableMod Do you know if you could realistically ruin components by plugging in the wrong brand PSU cables?  I would imagine you would be the best person to ask.

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Some do use the same connectors with different pinouts, so it is possible to use a set of cables for one PSU on another and damage hardware. I believe there was a YouTuber who shed light on this actually. So yes definitely ensure you don't mix and match PSU cables to different PSU's.

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4 hours ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

Honestly, I have no idea.  Never tried it out.

 

@CableMod Do you know if you could realistically ruin components by plugging in the wrong brand PSU cables?  I would imagine you would be the best person to ask.

I've seen users here on this very forum fry their brand new SSDs and stuff from using the wrong cables. Its absolutely possible.

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It's a psychological trick to be loyal to them.

 

Then they test your loyalty with customer support. That's where it usually ends.

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54 minutes ago, CableMod said:

Some do use the same connectors with different pinouts, so it is possible to use a set of cables for one PSU on another and damage hardware. I believe there was a YouTuber who shed light on this actually. So yes definitely ensure you don't mix and match PSU cables to different PSU's.

 

48 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

I've seen users here on this very forum fry their brand new SSDs and stuff from using the wrong cables. Its absolutely possible.

 

Both of you, thanks.

That would mean the branded bags that come with modular PSUs are very important.  You don't want to accidentally fry your electronics.

I still don't understand why an extra bag would be an issue, the price of the materials would be fairly insignificant, and wouldn't mark up the PSU's price too much.

 

Hypothetically, let's say you accidentally mixed up your cables, would a power supply tester be able to tell if you have the right cable attached?  Or would you just fry the tester?

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6 minutes ago, Cinnabar Sonar said:

 

 

Both of you, thanks.

That would mean the branded bags that come with modular PSUs are very important.  You don't want to accidentally fry your electronics.

I still don't understand why an extra bag would be an issue, the price of the materials would be fairly insignificant, and wouldn't mark up the PSU's price too much.

 

Hypothetically, let's say you accidentally mixed up your cables, would a power supply tester be able to tell if you have the right cable attached?  Or would you just fry the tester?

I'd personally just measure each pin with a multimeter.

 

It would likely damage a tester.

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19 minutes ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

I'd personally just measure each pin with a multimeter.

 

It would likely damage a tester.

I figured as much, a dead tester is better than a dead motherboard though.  :P

A multimeter does make more sense, I would imagine that the pinout would be easy to find as well.

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God you guys read to much into stuff. I think Silverstone was the first to start including bags, and they weren't branded. They were simply a way of storing modular cables together, instead of some big psu box, especially handy when through a boutique builder where you don't want all the product boxes. 

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13 hours ago, AshleyAshes said:

But I like the bag.  I use the bag from my EVGA SuperNova's to store unused modular cables in. It's useful.

My corsair PSU came with such bag, it's not modular. 

What do they expect me to do with that bag? Store left over screws from my build? I mean come on.:/

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