Should I wait for ZEN 2

[AnalogCanavity]

I am going to get Ryzen for an upgrade this winter, but I saw that Zen 2 is coming out in February, should I get Zen 2 or just stick with the current version.

 

Thanks

[Subduck]

It's only two months so you might as well wait and see. If it doesn't turn out as good as you hoped, then you have a choice to go with either.

[Ryujin2003]

When the original Ryzen 7 came out, it was back ordered for a while. If you need a computer, or don't want to deal with back orders, then get it now. You can always upgrade in the future. Otherwise, you have no idea what improvements (if any) are coming at what cost (increased?). So it is all based on what you want. Want it now? Get it now. What to wait, then wait. There is no guarantee about waiting for the product until it has been launched and tested.

[AnalogCanavity]

Just now, Ryujin2003 said:

When the original Ryzen 7 came out, it was back ordered for a while. If you need a computer, or don't want to deal with back orders, then get it now. You can always upgrade in the future. Otherwise, you have no idea what improvements (if any) are coming at what cost (increased?). So it is all based on what you want. Want it now? Get it now. What to wait, then wait. There is no guarantee about waiting for the product until it has been launched and tested.

I think I’ll wait, My 6700k is fine for a while until all the games start to utilize 6 cores

[Jurrunio]

It's not Zen 2 that's coming in Feb. It's Zen+ (Pinnacle Ridge). Zen 2 (Matisse) will come in 2019.

 

Just get the CPU you want now. You can still upgrade with the same mobo 2-3 years later.

[mariushm]

Zen 2 is not coming in February, it's going to be late 2019 - 2020

 

We're gonna have Ryzen with integrated graphics in the following months, and in late spring next year, we're gonna have Zen+ which will be basically the current processors slightly tweaked and maybe capable of 300-500 Mhz extra. Maybe you'll be able to OC them to 4.3 .. 4.5 Ghz but that's pretty much it.

The performance increase per Mhz between current Zen and Zen+ should be negligible.

 

[AnalogCanavity]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

It's not Zen 2 that's coming in Feb. It's Zen+ (Pinnacle Ridge). Zen 2 (Matisse) will come in 2019.

 

Just get the CPU you want now. You can still upgrade with the same mobo 2-3 years later.

Ok

[AnalogCanavity]

Sorry I meant Zen+ though I can wait

[Princess Luna]

5 minutes ago, Zic05 said:

I think I’ll wait, My 6700k is fine for a while until all the games start to utilize 6 cores

Why would you ditch an i7 6700k already? this thing is a beast on its own right especially if you just want to game... to be honest the only upgrade I'd call worth would be when Ice Lake on the z390 chipset comes out, if you're feeling your gaming experience is being limited it certainly isn't due to CPU, more like the GTX 1070 is just not enough to please.

[bdubbs]

If you were running VMs i would say go for the cores but normal usage 6700k is great. 

[AnalogCanavity]

8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Why would you ditch an i7 6700k already? this thing is a beast on its own right especially if you just want to game... to be honest the only upgrade I'd call worth would be when Ice Lake on the z390 chipset comes out, if you're feeling your gaming experience is being limited it certainly isn't due to CPU, more like the GTX 1070 is just not enough to please.

Well since intel is moving up to 6 cores, games will start to become higher core  orientated so that’s why I want to upgrade. And that’s why I don’t mind waiting for Zen+ because the 6700k is a beast.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Zic05 said:

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You're getting a couple of stuff wrong though, to begin with a great number of games barely even fully utilizes 4 cores today, software side it is a lot, but like A LOT more difficult than most people think to parallelize the work load through coding software side, so you can be sure we are nowhere that near of games fully using 6 cores (not even the case as system uses its share of resources too).

 

So having that in mind, even on games that can use 4 cores or more to some extend, the most important thing will always be IPC, the single core performance, the fastest possible cores and Zen+ will at best expectation even up with Skylake IPC, meaning that you'll be doing nothing but a sidegrade on best case scenario as the single core speed will be somewhat the same.

 

If you want an actual noticeable upgrade without wasting money do what I told you so, wait for Intel's Ice Lake line up, it will be first CPU gen to feature 10nm lithography which means faster cores.

[AnalogCanavity]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

You're getting a couple of stuff wrong though, to begin with a great number of games barely even fully utilizes 4 cores today, software side it is a lot, but like A LOT more difficult than most people think to parallelize the work load through coding software side, so you can be sure we are nowhere that near of games fully using 6 cores (not even the case as system uses its share of resources too).

 

So having that in mind, even on games that can use 4 cores or more to some extend, the most important thing will always be IPC, the single core performance, the fastest possible cores and Zen+ will at best expectation even up with Skylake IPC, meaning that you'll be doing nothing but a sidegrade on best case scenario as the single core speed will be somewhat the same.

 

If you want an actual noticeable upgrade without wasting money do what I told you so, wait for Intel's Ice Lake line up, it will be first CPU gen to feature 10nm lithography which means faster cores.

Ok, I’ll just save my money

[Ordinarily_Greater]

5 hours ago, Zic05 said:

I am going to get Ryzen for an upgrade this winter, but I saw that Zen 2 is coming out in February, should I get Zen 2 or just stick with the current version.

 

Thanks

Haven't you heard the Ryzen 7 2700U? That thing has a iGPU equal to a NVidia Discrete Graphics