Asus TUF B350M-Plus announced

[Misanthrope]

2 minutes ago, dave_k said:

He thinks he is the smartest man in the universe but nah

Pretty sure the smartest man in the universe wouldn't fry his rig by not realizing he plugged in a molex wrong but hey, who am I to judge?

[Sauron]

I'm not sure what the point of a TUF series board with the midrange chipset is  isn't it better to just spare a little more and go for the top of the line chipset on a less "boutique" motherboard?

[just_dave]

35 minutes ago, Sauron said:

I'm not sure what the point of a TUF series board with the midrange chipset is  isn't it better to just spare a little more and go for the top of the line chipset on a less "boutique" motherboard?

Well, most X370s (MSI, Gigabyte K5 and K3, Asus Prime X370 Plus same as Strix B350) have shitty VRMs so you dont really get anything with that, if you need SLI then you are probably looking for high-end X370

[just_dave]

7 minutes ago, VegetableStu said:

ATX only so far. no mATX AMD boards does SLI at all because none does x8/x8

This does not apply to this board but to the conversation about DoucheStudio

[pajpaj]

@dave_k Hello, if I want to achieve a 4Ghz on Ryzen 1700, is Asrock Fatal1ty will do?

[just_dave]

7 hours ago, pajpaj said:

@dave_k Hello, if I want to achieve a 4Ghz on Ryzen 1700, is Asrock Fatal1ty will do?

Which fatality ? X370?

[pajpaj]

3 hours ago, dave_k said:

Which fatality ? X370?

Yes.

[just_dave]

4 minutes ago, pajpaj said:

Yes.

X370s from ASrock are fine, you can OC as much as you can

[pajpaj]

Just now, dave_k said:

X370s from ASrock are fine, you can OC as much as you can

Ok, thank you very much.

[NumLock21]

TuF Gaming...

Well it ain't tough anymore!

3 year warranty out of the standard 5 years.

[just_dave]

14 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

TuF Gaming...

Well it ain't tough anymore!

3 year warranty out of the standard 5 years.

It is just rebranded Prime B350 Plus cut into mATX. It has VCore VRM heatsink so should be good

[NumLock21]

12 minutes ago, dave_k said:

It is just rebranded Prime B350 Plus cut into mATX. It has VCore VRM heatsink so should be good

Well are those pcie clips rgb like the X99? No rgb, no buy!

[just_dave]

Just now, NumLock21 said:

Well are those pcie clips rgb like the X99? No rgb, no buy!

[SpaceGhostC2C]

On 8/31/2017 at 1:22 PM, dave_k said:

The VRMs on B350 arent enough for that, they overheat.

VRM design are different from board to board, across chipsets. It will all depend on the specific case each time. 

[just_dave]

7 hours ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

VRM design are different from board to board, across chipsets. It will all depend on the specific case each time. 

No. All manafacturers use the same crap on all mobos. The shitty Gigabyte 4+3 is on X370 Gaming K5 as well as any other cheaper model

[Kawaii Besu]

On 8/31/2017 at 9:53 PM, dave_k said:

I absolutely hate trash youtubers like ScienceStudio who recommended MSI B350 Gaming Plus just because "it looks good" and said "ideal board for anyone who doesnt need SLI or 8 sata ports". He doesnt even know how shitty product does he recommend

I'm not sure, but I think calling it 'shitty' is a bit, you know, too much, I suppose.

 

I'd best most people buying those boards would be just OC'ing even their R7 1700 or lower, on the stock cooler, at stock voltages, at 3.7 GHz, and calling it a day. Are you seriously calling the mobos with supposedly 'crap' VRM, well, utter crap, just because they can't handle voltages that 99% of people wouldn't budge on?

 

P.S. Not anything to defend Salad Studio. I prefer my Tech Deals and Linus over him all day.

[just_dave]

6 minutes ago, Fillypino Pride said:

I'm not sure, but I think calling it 'shitty' is a bit, you know, too much, I suppose.

 

I'd best most people buying those boards would be just OC'ing even their R7 1700 or lower, on the stock cooler, at stock voltages, at 3.7 GHz, and calling it a day. Are you seriously calling the mobos with supposedly 'crap' VRM, well, utter crap, just because they can't handle voltages that 99% of people wouldn't budge on?

 

P.S. Not anything to defend Salad Studio. I prefer my Tech Deals and Linus over him all day.

It isnt capable of staying under 90°C with any R7 overclock. The stock R7 will put already huge stress on the VRMs. Give the VRM "heatsinks" and you have one hell of a fire hazard.

A situation bit better than 970 Krait with FX 8 core

[Kawaii Besu]

5 minutes ago, dave_k said:

It isnt capable of staying under 90°C with any R7 overclock. The stock R7 will put already huge stress on the VRMs. Give the VRM "heatsinks" and you have one hell of a fire hazard.

A situation bit better than 970 Krait with FX 8 core

Okay.

 

Do you have any articles or sources confirming such things?

[just_dave]

2 minutes ago, Fillypino Pride said:

Okay.

 

Do you have any articles or sources confirming such things?

Here http://www.overclock.net/t/1624051/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards/2450#post_26266445

and 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1624051/vrm-on-the-new-am4-motherboards/2480#post_26273896

[Brooksie359]

On 8/31/2017 at 7:03 AM, dave_k said:

Gigabyte uses crappy highside mosfets. From my talk with buildzoid and from the spec sheets i know that they have low current output (plus low maximum) and higher heat ouput. High RDS(on) and buildzoid says they are pretty unstable with higher temps

Pretty sure buildzoid said you would be fine with overclocking an 8 core on the boards with proper VRM heatsinks. 

[just_dave]

10 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

Pretty sure buildzoid said you would be fine with overclocking an 8 core on the boards with proper VRM heatsinks. 

But not Gigabyte, he said that Gigabyte sucks as much as classic MSI 4+2

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, dave_k said:

But not Gigabyte, he said that Gigabyte sucks as much as classic MSI 4+2

If I rember it correctly he said the 4+2 was the second best.

[just_dave]

18 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

If I rember it correctly he said the 4+2 was the second best.

No, Asus and MSI carbon are the best, wanna see my calculations?

1. Asus/Carbon

2. ASRock

3. dont buy

Edited September 2, 2017 by dave_k
chart

[SpaceGhostC2C]

7 hours ago, dave_k said:

No. All manafacturers use the same crap on all mobos. The shitty Gigabyte 4+3 is on X370 Gaming K5 as well as any other cheaper model

No. Every manufacturer decides for each model. They may use the same design and components in several models. However, there is still no restriction on which design they can pair with a particular chipset. 

 

It's like we are back to the 970 va 990FX misconceptions... 

[just_dave]

21 minutes ago, SpaceGhostC2C said:

No. Every manufacturer decides for each model. They mau use the samw design and components in several models. However, there is still no restriction on which design they can pair with a particular chipset. 

 

It's like we are back to the 970 va 990FX misconceptions... 

Yeah i´ve said it bad, MSI uses same crap on the most X370s as well as Gigabyte