Rate my build (Warning: X299 platform)

[Morgoth97]

Hello forum,

I'm planning to start building my first PC (for gaming and some CAD) by the end of the week and I was wondering if I was missing anything essential or perhaps you'd like to criticize me for my choice of platform? 

Also, any tips would be appreciated.

 

 

P.S

Yes, I do have a monitor and others essential peripherals, tools and tube bending tools. 

[TheSLSAMG]

As far as I'm concerned, I don't believe that X299 is worth the premium over Ryzen. The Ryzen 7 1800X would definitely be a little slower, but you would save a significant amount of money. You could also consider Threadripper as well if thats your thing. Also, considering you're looking into such an expensive platform, what are you using the rig for? I ask because the CPU/board choice is complete overkill for just gaming. 

[Brooksie359]

Well you are going to need one really nice cpu cooler too cool that thing. I honestly wouldn't suggest going with a i7 7700k build if you just want to game as the 8 core you are getting is way overkill.

[DocSwag]

I think going for a 1700 would be a better choice. Swap the ssd for a sata one (no need for NVMe), don't get the lightning for the gpu since that's mainly for ln2 and psu is overkill.

[light-v]

Threadripper is just around the corner if you really need the cores otherwise stick with Ryzen 7. X299 will give you a lot of headache with all the issues it has.

[Septimus]

That build is giving me a tumor. 

4/10 would not do X299 again. 

[Colexd]

Your build lacks a cpu cooler. However, i'd recommend a ryzen 1600 or 1700, both have stock coolers, and a b350 mobo, for a waaay lower price. You can also add in HDDs for more storage.

 

[Morgoth97]

You're all brining up Ryzen but fail to realize that Ryzen was never designed for gaming. 

Maybe at least with the 7820x, I can achieve the same single core performance as a 7700k and still not comrimise core counts in case I need them.

 

If you scrolled down in the parts list you'll see I've dedicated a 560mm Radiator just for the furnace that is x299.

 

I reckon I can easily hit 4.9 GHz and maybe 5 Ghz depending on how lucky I got with the CPU.

I'm planning to delid the CPU when tools become available to do it more safely and I'll get a monoblock to avoid VRM throttling, I'm expecting 5.2 GHz performance then. 

Edited August 6, 2017 by Morgoth97
Grammar fix

[Morgoth97]

1 minute ago, Colexd said:

Your build lacks a cpu cooler. However, i'd recommend a ryzen 1600 or 1700, both have stock coolers, and a b350 mobo, for a waaay lower price. You can also add in HDDs for more storage.

 

I'm building a custom water loop with a 560mm Radiator just for the CPU.

[Morgoth97]

4 minutes ago, light-v said:

Threadripper is just around the corner if you really need the cores otherwise stick with Ryzen 7. X299 will give you a lot of headache with all the issues it has.

That's just inevitable with new platforms. I wouldn't be surprised if threadripper has a few problems (much less than x299 as it wasn't rushed). 

[Colexd]

1 minute ago, Morgoth97 said:

I'm building a custom water loop with a 560mm Radiator just for the CPU.

My bad, I didnt notice that part.

[Morgoth97]

Guys, stop bringing up Ryzen 7, it wasn't designed for gaming which is my primary use.

I'm building a custom water loop and the Ryzen platform just don't benefit from water cooling. 

[kaiju_wars]

1 minute ago, Morgoth97 said:

Guys, stop bringing up Ryzen 7, it wasn't designed for gaming which is my primary use.

I'm building a custom water loop and the Ryzen platform just don't benefit from water cooling. 

Actually, it was.  It was just also designed to stream at the same time.

Ryzen was designed to game, it's just that wasn't it's main focus, it's one of the many goals AMD was trying to achieve though.

[light-v]

3 minutes ago, Morgoth97 said:

Guys, stop bringing up Ryzen 7, it wasn't designed for gaming which is my primary use.

I'm building a custom water loop and the Ryzen platform just don't benefit from water cooling. 

Just get a 7700K then. Anything higher is a waste of money if you are primarily gaming. Skylake-X isn't that great in gaming compared to Broadwell-E.

[Colexd]

1 minute ago, light-v said:

Just get a 7700K then. Anything higher is a waste of money if you are primarily gaming. Skylake-X isn't that great in gaming compared to Broadwell-E.

True. Either get ryzen or the 7700k for gaming.

[kaiju_wars]

1 minute ago, light-v said:

Just get a 7700K then. Anything higher is a waste of money if you are primarily gaming. Skylake-X isn't that great in gaming compared to Broadwell-E.

This.  Or if you need 8 cores and you insist on Intel only, go X99, this way you also aren't limited on your PCIe lanes like with Skylake/Kaby Lake X

[Morgoth97]

5 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

This.  Or if you need 8 cores and you insist on Intel only, go X99, this way you also aren't limited on your PCIe lanes like with Skylake/Kaby Lake X

Hence I got a premium board, it has everything I need integrated, I honestly don't think I need that many PCIE lanes because at most I'd run a dual SLI config. 

 

You're forgetting the fact that the 600 USD CPU on x299 performs just as well as the top tier CPU in x99 that's priced at 1500 USD.

[kaiju_wars]

3 minutes ago, Morgoth97 said:

Hence I got a premium board, it has everything I need integrated, I honestly don't think I need that many PCIE lanes because at most I'd run a dual SLI config. 

 

You're forgetting the fact that the 600 USD CPU on x299 performs just as well as the top tier CPU in x99 that's priced at 1500 USD.

It doesn't matter what board you got, the PCIe lanes are limited on the CPU.

You're only getting 28 PCIe lanes with the CPU you've chosen regardless of what motherboard you get.

 

I'm only mentioning this since you're adamant on an enthusiast platform.

[light-v]

9 minutes ago, Morgoth97 said:

Hence I got a premium board, it has everything I need integrated, I honestly don't think I need that many PCIE lanes because at most I'd run a dual SLI config. 

 

You're forgetting the fact that the 600 USD CPU on x299 performs just as well as the top tier CPU in x99 that's priced at 1500 USD.

For 600$ I think it's pretty lame for a HEDT cpu 

[Morgoth97]

6 minutes ago, light-v said:

For 600$ I think it's pretty lame for a HEDT cpu 

That video doesn't take into account that 7820x can be overclocked much higher than the Ryzen line up. 

[Morgoth97]

9 minutes ago, kaiju_wars said:

It doesn't matter what board you got, the PCIe lanes are limited on the CPU.

You're only getting 28 PCIe lanes with the CPU you've chosen regardless of what motherboard you get.

 

I'm only mentioning this since you're adamant on an enthusiast platform.

 

What I mean is that I don't need to get a sound card as the motherboard features a top tier sound drive  or a wireless card nor a M.2 PCIE adapter.

On 28 lanes I can run one 16x GPU and one 8x GPU and the difference between 16X and 8X is mairgainly small. 

 

[light-v]

1 minute ago, Morgoth97 said:

That video doesn't take into account that 7820x can be overclocked much higher than the Ryzen line up. 

It does show overclocked performance regardless. The results speaks for themselves you need to overclock to 4.5GHz (without considering VRM thermals and raw power consumption) to match a previous gen CPU at 4GHz and that is lame to me.

 

I feel like you're just a die hard Intel fan at this point, not that I have anything against that but it's just something to note.

 

Also building a custom loop as a first time builder is a bad idea on itself. Just sayin'

[kaiju_wars]

10 minutes ago, Morgoth97 said:

 

What I mean is that I don't need to get a sound card as the motherboard features a top tier sound drive  or a wireless card nor a M.2 PCIE adapter.

On 28 lanes I can run one 16x GPU and one 8x GPU and the difference between 16X and 8X is mairgainly small. 

 

You missed my point.  My point is why buy a product that is purposefully gimped.  Regardless of needing those features or not, you're telling Intel it's okay to screw over the consumer.

[Morgoth97]

2 minutes ago, light-v said:

It does show overclocked performance regardless. The results speaks for themselves you need to overclock to 4.5GHz (without considering VRM thermals and raw power consumption) to match a previous gen CPU at 4GHz and that is lame to me.

 

I feel like you're just a die hard Intel fan at this point, not that I have anything against that but it's just something to note.

 

Also building a custom loop as a first time builder is a bad idea on itself. Just sayin'

As far as I'm aware, the CPU's thermal paste is a throttling point for over clocking way before the VRM starts to throttle performance and we're taking about 5.1 GHz.

 

I'm not a die hard intel fan, I'm just not price elastic to care that 1700 is a better value CPU. 

 

On your concern for my first time custom loop. I appreciate your concern but I've thought about it and my cousin who's experienced with hardline tubing said he'd guide me through the proces so no worries.

[Morgoth97]

1 hour ago, DocSwag said:

I think going for a 1700 would be a better choice. Swap the ssd for a sata one (no need for NVMe), don't get the lightning for the gpu since that's mainly for ln2 and psu is overkill.

MSI Lightning actually sports the best thermals for air cooled 1080 Ti (obviously because it's triple slot) and I also find it very appealing and hence fitting in my showcase styled Chassis. 

 

I've chosen 7820x over 1700 simply because the frequency is much better when water cooled in a custom water loop. Also, I wouldn't consider myself price elastic.

 

I chose an NVME SSD over a Sata 3 one for multiple reasons:

1- It's much faster and I'll get better boot times.

2- It's more future proof.

3- I plan to run more NVME SSDs so I'd get noticeably much faster transfer rates between them.

4- I don't have to hassle over wires.

5- It's looks more impressive on paper.