Should go ryzen threadripper or intel for a virtualisation pc.

[VivashTech]

I want my virtualization pc to run pfsense and also be able to run a basic nas server at the same time. I want it to be very upgradeable and cost isnt really a factor but the less i can spend the better.

[tangytangerine]

Go for a server//workstation chip? Xeon or Epyc maybe, since they are validated for ECC RAM, which may be more or less important depending on what you're going to use your rig for. I'm not familiar with virtualization work but for what I do, these chips have better certification and drivers for specific programs.

[RadiatingLight]

Just now, tangytangerine said:

Go for a server//workstation chip? Xeon or Epyc maybe, since they are validated for ECC RAM, which may be more or less important depending on what you're going to use your rig for. I'm not familiar with virtualization work but for what I do, these chips have better certification and drivers for specific programs.

All ryzen works with ECC

[tangytangerine]

Just now, RadiatingLight said:

All ryzen works with ECC

They do, in theory with X370, but AMD does not provide validation.

[paddy-stone]

4 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

I want my virtualization pc to run pfsense and also be able to run a basic nas server at the same time. I want it to be very upgradeable and cost isnt really a factor but the less i can spend the better.

You don't need anywhere near that level of hardware for just pfsense and NAS, the g4560 will more than handle that.

[tangytangerine]

1 minute ago, paddy-stone said:

You don't need anywhere near that level of hardware for just pfsense and NAS, the g4560 will more than handle that.

I'm not familiar with pfsense, but I'm gonna assume since that is a router application (along with a NAS), ECC RAM will be beneficial.

 

I don't think the G4560 supports that standard. I would say get a Xeon E3 w/o HT based on what he said about the power needed.

[Bananasplit_00]

well ryzen has had some PCI passthrough issues that im not sure are resolved or not, so maybe Intel would be a better pick. also i would think splitting those two off would be a smarter choice then haveing one rig, seeing as you can probably get away with a quite small cube case and an ITX/M-ATX build

[paddy-stone]

1 minute ago, tangytangerine said:

I'm not familiar with pfsense, but I'm gonna assume since that is a router application (along with a NAS), ECC RAM will be beneficial.

 

I don't think the G4560 supports that standard. I would say get a Xeon E3 w/o HT based on what he said about the power needed.

No, it's similar to router fucntionality, but it does not need ECC ram at all... I was reading up on this myself, and in fact pfsense will happily run with just 1 core and under 512MB ram.

[VivashTech]

31 minutes ago, paddy-stone said:

No, it's similar to router fucntionality, but it does not need ECC ram at all... I was reading up on this myself, and in fact pfsense will happily run with just 1 core and under 512MB ram.

what at 200mbps? And i want to play arround with different virtualization software and different raid's with different array's and stuff going up to 40tb and i want ecc ram because i have had a failiure in the past on a storage server that could have been prevented had i been using ecc registered ram

[paddy-stone]

5 minutes ago, VivashTech said:

what at 200mbps? And i want to play arround with different virtualization software and different raid's with different array's and stuff going up to 40tb and i want ecc ram because i have had a failiure in the past on a storage server that could have been prevented had i been using ecc registered ram

OK, fair enough, was going off your first post where you didn't mention what for, just that you wanted to use for pfsense and NAS, which would be easy to do on a g4560 CPU and non-ECC ram.

[VivashTech]

Just now, paddy-stone said:

OK, fair enough, was going off your first post where you didn't mention what for, just that you wanted to use for pfsense and NAS, which would be easy to do on a g4560 CPU and non-ECC ram.

yeah no man i know for most use cases any old pc can be a good pfsense router. To be honest i would go for a quad or hex core older amd cpu over a pentium for a pfsense router and a basic home server nas

[Jarsky]

TR & Epyc are a waste of money for this kind of use, the TR itself is at least ~US$1000 just for CPU + Board. 

The G4560 is a 2C/4T chip, so you could happily assign 1C/2T to the NAS and pfSense each. 

If you want more, then you can always go a Ryzen 5 1400 + GPU for a fraction of the cost which will give you 4C/8T