Posted July 12, 2017 Author 6 minutes ago, YongKang said: You're missing out on the amazing food We have a huge Chinese population living in Philippines for almost more than half a millenia ago. Chinese restaurants are everywhere and yes, I know how they taste and it's delicious. I guess if our planned trip to China goes, I won't be uploading that Great Wall of China panorama to Twitter and Instagram while in China. I may have to wait until we reach Hong Kong layover where internet regulations are way lighter. There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, hey_yo_ said: We have a huge Chinese population living in Philippines for almost more than half a millenia ago. Chinese restaurants are everywhere and yes, I know how they taste and it's delicious. I guess if our planned trip to China goes, I won't be uploading that Great Wall of China panorama to Twitter and Instagram while in China. I may have to wait until we reach Hong Kong layover where internet regulations are way lighter. Dude, don't worry about VPN and stuff. Enjoy your time there, get some great food, enjoy the free wifi on buses and subway. Have fun! And you won't have any problem accessing western social media when you're in HK. I speak from experience. I just went back to my hometown Guangzhou last December. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 Author 8 minutes ago, YongKang said: Dude, don't worry about VPN and stuff. Enjoy your time there, get some great food, enjoy the free wifi on buses and subway. Have fun! And you won't have any problem accessing western social media when you're in HK. I speak from experience. I just went back to my hometown Guangzhou last December. I think laws are different in HK and PRC. I've been to Hong Kong back when I was in high school and looking back, it's more "free and democratic" in Hong Kong. I know people there can assemble and speak in the public unlike in China. Besides, most VPN providers have HK servers and I haven't heard any legislation in banning VPN use in Hong Kong. There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 1 minute ago, hey_yo_ said: I think laws are different in HK and PRC. I've been to Hong Kong back when I was in high school and looking back, it's more "free and democratic" in Hong Kong. I know people there can assemble and speak in the public unlike in China. Besides, most VPN providers have HK servers. They are but HK is still a part of China. Free? Yes. Democratic? Do you know that's one of the things that a political party abuses in HK, want HK to be independent, using "naive" students to cause trouble and wasting time in the assembly chamber? That's the truth there. "assemble and speak in the public unlike in China." Bro, you're in for a culture shock when you go there. I assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, YongKang said: They are but HK is still a part of China. Free? Yes. Democratic? Do you know that's one of the things that a political party abuses in HK, want HK to be independent, using "naive" students to cause trouble and wasting time in the assembly chamber? That's the truth there. "assemble and speak in the public unlike in China." Bro, you're in for a culture shock when you go there. I assure you. This post is probably derailing from the OP but I'd love to see the day when Hong Kong secedes from China. There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, hey_yo_ said: This post is probably derailing from the OP but I'd love to see the day when Hong Kong secedes from China. Most of the populace doesn't support it and it's just a wild idea that's been thrown around as an excuse by the minority that dislikes the PRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 33 minutes ago, YongKang said: You're missing out on the amazing food Does that come before or after the tank runs over you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 Just now, Eaglerino said: Does that come before or after the tank runs over you I'll suggest you read more on history and seeing more perspective before saying stuff like that. Plus, I'm truly saddened by the naive but geniuses university students that died on that day, fighting for a cause they believe to be right but only to be used by some that betrayed them (those who stirred the whole incident up) to escape China safely and got paid handsomely by foreign countries. If the ones that escaped truly believe in the democracy they fought for, they would stay behind with their brethren and not live the coward life they are right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 4 hours ago, hey_yo_ said: They're now starting. Some people argue with the notion, "if you have nothing to hide or done nothing wrong, you shouldn't be afraid to be searched" which I find problematic. Let's say in a small town with 50 families living and the local government was granted access to intercept all data flowing through every ISP without consent. Then there was a report of illegal heroin production and authorities want to investigate and have the suspects incarcerated. In most countries, seizure of private property or home searches without a warrant is illegal. But here's the catch, probable cause. Since the government can look into browsing activities of the people living in that small town, they can look into individual IP addresses and look what websites these people are looking into. Let's say Matthew is a Chemistry major in college and is looking for the pathways how methamphetamine for example is synthesized for his organic chemistry homework, the cops can use his browsing history as a probable cause to search his house even without warrant or worse, have him put to jail for something he didn't do. P.S. I'm not so sure about my example of probable cause. Is my example correct @jmart604? We don't have anything wrong or anything to hide but having insecure apps and communications means that anybody with some knowledge can use my data and benefits from them. I don't mind if Google AI read my info to show me relevant ads , YouTube suggestions, app suggestions, music, search etc . I'm fine with that and that's why i use Google services but let's imagine that I use some insecure apps for messaging and talking with my friends. And in that app , I tell them that i bought a expensive laptop for example. And few days later I tell them that i want to go out mountain climbing or any thing else and I'm not home. Then the guy with some computer knowledge can use my data and since they know when I'm out and what I've bought , they can easily come to my house and steal my expensive laptop . The point is that bad guys unfortunately always find a way to do their stuff and having insecure apps and services can't stop them , but it can also cause more problems and let some other bad guys do other bad things too (for example that laptop story) And personally, I think big companies like google , Facebook ,Microsoft.... will fight for free secure Internet (let's hope they do) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 Author 37 minutes ago, Red Hardware said: And personally, I think big companies like google , Facebook ,Microsoft.... will fight for free secure Internet (let's hope they do) These companies once made a rejoinder in support of Apple when the likes of FBI is harassing Apple to create a backdoor to bypass the iPhone 5c's encryption. https://www.recode.net/2016/2/25/11588236/google-will-join-microsoft-in-backing-apple-with-a-legal-filing-in I'm sure these will be the same companies to defend VPN use in the event that the US government would call for a "total and complete shutdown of personal VPN use". Although I don't think the US at the moment would do shit like China is doing. There is more that meets the eye I see the soul that is inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted July 12, 2017 7 hours ago, hey_yo_ said: I think laws are different in HK and PRC. I've been to Hong Kong back when I was in high school and looking back, it's more "free and democratic" in Hong Kong. I know people there can assemble and speak in the public unlike in China. Besides, most VPN providers have HK servers and I haven't heard any legislation in banning VPN use in Hong Kong. I think so places such as Shanghai also have some website unblocked, it varies between provinces (states) and some ISP and how strict the filtering and port blocking. It also a major trading hub and also it was control by the Britain and still have alot of foreigners living there. I had no problem accessing websites or services in Hong Kong. Personally anything with encrypted traffic is really slow in China due to i presume packet sniffers which analyzer the key to see if it similar to services such as OPENVPN, and probing that connection to see if it VPN or not. I found that they will block foreign IP as soon it finds if it VPN or proxy of sorts, unless you have services such as stunnel which hids the traffic as HTTPS web request. Magical Pineapples
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