Best 32 GB RAM option for Ryzen?

[RGBLEDCPU]

Hi,

 

I'm buying an 1800X with a Crosshair VI Hero soon (next week probably). I have seen the new benchmarks with the fast RAM kits, but they use single rank 2 DIMM kits. However I need at least 32 GB RAM, so that's either single rank 4 DIMM, or dual rank 2 DIMM.

 

My budget for memory is $500, and the computer will be used mostly for programming (compiling, testing etc) and virtual machines, with some gaming on weekends. I also need fast IO, so messing with the BCLK and downgrading to PCIe 2.0 is not an option.

 

What is the best RAM kit for this budget? I was thinking about buying 2 FlareX 3200 MHz kits, but I am not sure how that would work out.

[Zaki_Owais]

Corsair Vengence LPX or G.skill Trident Z or Bette Yet Dominator Platinium

[Damascus]

I would get this one

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/7Y7CmG/gskill-tridentz-rgb-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14q-32gtzr

[Princess Luna]

I'm using 3000mhz Corsair Vengeance and it works fine with my Prime x370-PRO, runs on 2933mhz and all, I'm not sure about timings I don't look too deep onto this though the performance is superb.

[Mooshi]

1 minute ago, Zaki_Owais said:

Corsair Vengence LPX or G.skill Trident Z or Bette Yet Dominator Platinium

Platinums are gaudy. The Trident Z looks a lot nicer.

[JoostinOnline]

4 minutes ago, RGBLEDCPU said:

Hi,

 

I'm buying an 1800X with a Crosshair VI Hero soon (next week probably). I have seen the new benchmarks with the fast RAM kits, but they use single rank 2 DIMM kits. However I need at least 32 GB RAM, so that's either single rank 4 DIMM, or dual rank 2 DIMM.

 

My budget for memory is $500, and the computer will be used mostly for programming (compiling, testing etc) and virtual machines, with some gaming on weekends. I also need fast IO, so messing with the BCLK and downgrading to PCIe 2.0 is not an option.

 

What is the best RAM kit for this budget? I was thinking about buying 2 FlareX 3200 MHz kits, but I am not sure how that would work out.

First off, the 1800X is a complete waste of money.  Get the 1700.  They're barely any different.

 

For the RAM, I'd suggest this.

[Zaki_Owais]

On 6/5/2017 at 11:31 AM, Mooshi said:

Platinums are gaudy. The Trident Z looks a lot nicer.

Whatever You think Looks Nice!The Platiniums are usually meant for The over the top "overkill"

On 6/5/2017 at 11:32 AM, JoostinOnline said:

First off, the 1800X is a complete waste of money.  Get the 1700.  They're barely any different.

 

For the RAM, I'd suggest this.

Those are updated,I think.My trident Looks like the one used in compensator 2 except red instead of white

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, Zaki_Owais said:

Those are updated,I think.My trident Looks like the one used in compensator 2 except red instead of white

I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

@RGBLEDCPU That board you are looking at has a lot of bad reviews.  A lot of failures and other issues.  Take a look at some of these.

[done12many2]

10 minutes ago, Zaki_Owais said:

Whatever You think Looks Nice!The Platiniums are usually meant for The over the top "overkill"

 

Maybe in looks based on personal preference, but Platinum is not synonymous with the best performance by a long shot.  

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1628751/official-amd-ryzen-ddr4-24-7-memory-stability-thread

 

This thread will be useful 

[TacoSenpai]

550 is more than enough for a high speed 32GB kit.  I would say go with Trident Z. Try to get a dual rank kit for the best compatibility (2x16GB). 

[DocSwag]

On 6/5/2017 at 11:32 AM, JoostinOnline said:

First off, the 1800X is a complete waste of money.  Get the 1700.  They're barely any different.

 

For the RAM, I'd suggest this.

Agreed on 1700 part, disagreed on RAM as that isn't B-Die RAM

 

If RGB is your thing

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/pjKhP6/gskill-tridentz-rgb-32gb-4-x-8gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c17q-32gtzr

If not

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Pz648d/gskill-tridentz-series-32gb-2-x-16gb-ddr4-3200-memory-f4-3200c14d-32gtzsw

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, DocSwag said:

Agreed on 1700 part, disagreed on RAM as that isn't B-Die RAM

Nice catch, totally forgot to check for that.

[Evanair]

I'm running B-die ram and the new (beta for now) bios update allows me to go to 3600 at 2t on the C6H. 32 gigs across 4 sticks, without touching the BCLK. 

 

Flare X seems to be the best bet for price vs performance on Ryzen at the moment though. 

 

From an anecdotal standpoint, I haven't had any issues with my board or ram that can't be attributed to a brand new platform. I haven't had to RMA the board and everything works great. On C6H you can push BCLK to 105 and still maintain full IO. Anything above will downgrade it.

 

Edit: Apparently I am running B-die ram. The old stuff I replaced was non B-die so my bad on that. Still can't get it to run at the full 4266 though, even on 2 sticks.

[RGBLEDCPU]

Thanks for the help, I think I will go with a G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZSK kit.

[App4that]

6 minutes ago, RGBLEDCPU said:

Thanks for the help, I think I will go with a G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZSK kit.

Wait on it, get a 16g kit. I had to pull 16g of my RAM to get a solid overclock. Ryzen doesn't like all four slots filled just yet. 

 

Or run the 32g and know you'll be at a lower overclock until the bios catch up. 

[Salacious B Crum]

Yep I'd wait it out a bit this thing is still fluid and what doesn't work today will more than likely work tomorrow upgrades keep coming, I started out with Gskill ripjaw 32gig 2 stick kit @ 3200 MHz and on the first bios it would only run at 2400mhz every bios since I've gained speed to the next level it is now running at 2933mhz and look forward to the next AGESA release

[RGBLEDCPU]

32 minutes ago, App4that said:

Wait on it, get a 16g kit. I had to pull 16g of my RAM to get a solid overclock. Ryzen doesn't like all four slots filled just yet. 

 

Or run the 32g and know you'll be at a lower overclock until the bios catch up. 

That kit has only two sticks, and 2 x dual rank should be better than 4 x single rank. It is also a bit cheaper in Hungary.

 

It is also not the end of the world for me if I can't get the RAM speed over let's say 2933 MHz right now. I need 32 GB RAM for my virtual machines, so I can't use just a 16 GB kit. I also read that upgrading kits won't always work, so it is better to get all the RAM in one kit. I am not sure if this info is true for Ryzen, it was supposed to be true for Intel, especially with the faster kits.

[App4that]

Just now, RGBLEDCPU said:

That kit has only two sticks, and 2 x dual rank should be better than 4 x single rank. It is also a bit cheaper in Hungary.

 

It is also not the end of the world for me if I can't get the RAM speed over let's say 2933 MHz right now. I need 32 GB RAM for my virtual machines, so I can't use just a 16 GB kit. I also read that upgrading kits won't always work, so it is better to get all the RAM in one kit. I am not sure if this info is true for Ryzen, it was supposed to be true for Intel, especially with the faster kits.

So far it look like 16g dimms and all four slots filled are no, nos with Ryzen. Though this is average, not a rule. On average you're better off with 2 8g dimms of Samsung. Of course luck plays a huge role in how your experiance goes. 

 

If you need the capacity, then go for it. Most people can hit 2933 and it's enough to help out the performance of the infinity fabric. 

[Evanair]

Also remember that memory speed only applies when you're talking between the 4core chips between the system. This is why cinebench scores, which the cores rarely talk to one another, have not really improved with the improved ramspeeds.

 

Depending on your end setup, the extra money for anything above 3200 might be a complete waste.

[Goildzy]

On 6/5/2017 at 11:43 AM, JoostinOnline said:

I have no idea what you're talking about.

@RGBLEDCPU That board you are looking at has a lot of bad reviews.  A lot of failures and other issues.  Take a look at some of these.

LOL THAT BOARD ...... has the highest OC record ever on ryzen.

On 6/5/2017 at 11:53 AM, JoostinOnline said:

Nice catch, totally forgot to check for that.

On 6/5/2017 at 11:32 AM, JoostinOnline said:

First off, the 1800X is a complete waste of money.  Get the 1700.  They're barely any different.

For the RAM, I'd suggest this.

1800x is way stronger than the 1700, for gaming that wouldnt matter though. Please check the processors out ..... before you make silly suggestions.

On 6/5/2017 at 5:01 PM, mrbilky said:

Yep I'd wait it out a bit this thing is still fluid and what doesn't work today will more than likely work tomorrow upgrades keep coming, I started out with Gskill ripjaw 32gig 2 stick kit @ 3200 MHz and on the first bios it would only run at 2400mhz every bios since I've gained speed to the next level it is now running at 2933mhz and look forward to the next AGESA release

You have a different board , i assume you use the Msi carbon?

On 6/5/2017 at 4:36 PM, RGBLEDCPU said:

Thanks for the help, I think I will go with a G.Skill F4-3200C14D-32GTZSK kit.

hope it works out let us know im curious

[Salacious B Crum]

Flare x is in my system on my 1800x and is smokin @3200MHz

[stealth80]

There's a lot of uninformed people commenting in this thread basing this decision purely on looks. Ryzen still doesn't like 4 dimms nor does it like double sided sticks (16gb) although new bios's based on Agesa 1006 have helped things a lot.

 

OP - That kit you have chosen will have about the best chance of causing zero issues, good luck with it

 

I did a bit of a guide reference Ryzen and ram in my signature - although not much on 32gb. 

On 6/9/2017 at 6:44 AM, Goildzy said:

1800x is way stronger than the 1700, for gaming that wouldnt matter though. Please check the processors out ..... before you make silly suggestions.

how is it way stronger? You realise they both overclock to 4 - 4.1ghz? I've had mine stable 4.050 ghz at 1.4v 

[Salacious B Crum]

3 hours ago, stealth80 said:

although new bios's based on Agesa 1006 have helped things a lot.

 

 

What board do you have that has the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update for neither of mine have updated yet!

[stealth80]

3 hours ago, mrbilky said:

What board do you have that has the AGESA 1.0.0.6 update for neither of mine have updated yet!

Gigabyte Gaming 5 (not k5) most boards have one, but they're beta - do a search on your board manufacturer + AM4 beta and what ya get