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9 hours ago, AstroSky said:

idk if this helps 

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Interesting.... This could be the reason... 

 

Does this happen in everything, including stuff like BF and Firestrike?

 

Go look in your bios, there might be an option to set the CPU frequency to fixed.

OK so im not sure how to say this but i recently just built a nice rig (well not so nice atm untill i figure this out)  

 

Amd Ryzen 1700 3.0 ghz

16 gbs of corsiar led 3000 mhz (running at 2666 mhz because thats what my motherboard likes the best)

Evga Gtx 1080 ti Liquidcooled hybrid sc2 

Evga supernova 650 g3 powersupply

Msi x370 sli plus motherboard.  

Crucial MX300 1TB M.2 (2280) Internal Solid State Drive

 

And after a fresh install of windows 10 and updating to all the newest drivers. 

 I proceeded to do a bench mark of the gtx 1080 ti in fire strike standard and then do a few gaming sessions with battlefield 1

 

With battle field 1 at 2560x1080 i get 80-100 fps and sometimes it goes to 40 when the game skips

With firestrike this is my scores.  http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20187033   Yes the link is safe.  

 

Now looking at the scores you would say well it looks fine and fast enough but the problem i have is CLOCK for CLOCK compared to OTHER gtx 1080 tis im performing worse and yet im running a water cooled version which should remove the thermal limit and based on my temp readings it runs at max load at 41c.   pretty nice and cool if you ask me.                                

 

The biggest problem i have is playing games.   Its running at sayyyy 80 but since it tends to freeze a nano second here and there it ruins the smoothness and its jarring and makes me wanna stop playing.  

 

I have noticed that if i go to medium instead of ultra the problem seems to go away.   But really?  Do i really have to play at medium settings after dropping almost 780 for a gpu?      

 

Any help would be appreciated.  

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I think I'd be looking at the CPU for this one. 

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Are you sure?   A bottleneck already??? 

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No, this is not a CPU bottleneck as the 1700 is more than sufficient for the 1080ti, how did you install the GPU drivers?

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Install MSI Afterburner and RivaTuner Stats Server bundled with it and use the OSD function to see whether one of the CPU cores get stressed to near 100%. If there is then there's a CPU bottleneck

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1 minute ago, AstroSky said:

Are you sure?   A bottleneck already??? 

ryzen isnt a bottleneck for you if you are playing battlefield 1 as you can see from other videos/sites.

MAIN BUILD!

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Seems i linked the wrong bench just now.   Regardless thats right at the same ballpark scores i got when i did mine so it will do.    Basically the gpu is running as fast as a 980 ti.   Thats a good way to put it.  (edit nvm() 

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compared to my rig (in sig) http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/12700884/fs/12747712

graphics score is pretty close so its not caused by the gpu

edit: the core clock is wrong there,it was running 2050mhz

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It's definitely the CPU. 

 

Your GPU score is comparable to the #1 performer

 

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/12519303 

 

whereas your physics and combine score is terrible. Your clock speed on the CPU was not fully utilized either (maxing out at ~3.2 GHz). 

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I was playing battlefield 1 and the cpu was sitting at 40% 

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Interesting.    Maybe i should overclock?   

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Download Heaven Benchmark and MSi Afterburner as mentioned, stress the GPU with the Heaven on your default resolution all maxed out to see if it goes 99%~100% usage, if it does not it is a drivers issue.

 

Again I wish someone would stop speaking bulls the 1700 does not bottleneck the 1080ti especially in a game that enjoys the 1700 16threads like BF1

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2 minutes ago, AstroSky said:

Interesting.    Maybe i should overclock?   

ofc m8,why did you get a liquid cooled card if you dont wanna oc?

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Just now, McHox said:

ofc m8,why did you get a liquid cooled card if you dont wanna oc?

just add max voltage and push power/temp limit to the max.
maybe start with +75 core and +400 mem and see how things go

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We are talking about the cpu not the gpu.   The gpu seems to have great scores.    But the cpu is holding it back it looks like

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Just now, AstroSky said:

We are talking about the cpu not the gpu.   The gpu seems to have great scores.    But the cpu is holding it back it looks like

oh yeah i guess,i guess the 1700 could do 3.8 easily

 

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The 1700's single core performance is not that good, this is why the combined score is low. Physics score is fine but GPU score seems low. Re run the benchmark ;)

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Ok did the heaven bench and monitored cpu usage.   It sits at 15% 

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10 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

No, this is not a CPU bottleneck as the 1700 is more than sufficient for the 1080ti, how did you install the GPU drivers?

It is a CPU bottleneck... The 1700's single core performance is not very good and the combined score is affected by single core Performance.

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2 minutes ago, AstroSky said:

We are talking about the cpu not the gpu.   The gpu seems to have great scores.    But the cpu is holding it back it looks like

I had something similar with my Ryzen 5 1600, i updated my BIOS, reset my overclocks and it was all fine again.

 

Maybe it helps you too.

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Hey pcguy.  Iv done the bench on fire strike 5 times before.   It sits right around that score of 1700 

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1 minute ago, AstroSky said:

Ok did the heaven bench and monitored cpu usage.   It sits at 15% 

Heaven is really old at this point, run Superposition :D

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Just now, AstroSky said:

Hey pcguy.  Iv done the bench on fire strike 5 times before.   It sits right around that score of 1700 

CPU overclocking will definitely help, what cooler are you using?

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i updated to the latest msi bios for the motherboard.   

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