3000mhz or 3200mhz for ryzen 5

[Destius]

I am going to buy a ryzen r5 1600 (without the x)

i have my eyes on Corsair vengeance LPX 16gb(2x8) 3000mhz memory for 140euros(best price i can get in my country)

but there is the exact same memory at 3200mhz for 10euros more

is that worth it?

the system is meant for gaming

[TheDane]

11 minutes ago, Fisting Master said:

I am going to buy a ryzen r5 1600 (without the x)

i have my eyes on Corsair vengeance LPX 16gb(2x8) 3000mhz memory for 140euros(best price i can get in my country)

but there is the exact same memory at 3200mhz for 10euros more

is that worth it?

the system is meant for gaming

 

If it's meant for gaming then you should buy an intel CPU because Ryzen is for workloads not really games

[DrMikeNZ]

To be fair, it won't make a huge difference, and both kits may only work at 2933 MHz anyway.

Just make sure the RAM is in the motherboards QVL.

6 minutes ago, TheDane said:

If it's meant for gaming then you should buy an intel CPU because Ryzen is for workloads not really games

Ryzen is fine for playing modern games, and gives a smoother gaming experience in multi-threaded titles.

[EPPHO]

19 minutes ago, TheDane said:

If it's meant for gaming then you should buy an intel CPU because Ryzen is for workloads not really games

lol

[EPPHO]

It won't make any difference and you can actually overclock 3000MHz RAM to 3200MHz pretty easy if you want.

[Guest]

20 minutes ago, TheDane said:

If it's meant for gaming then you should buy an intel CPU because Ryzen is for workloads not really games

what? got proof to back it up? 

[MyName13]

It won't make any significant difference.

[DrMikeNZ]

1 minute ago, deXxterlab97 said:

what? got proof to back it up? 

In Starcraft 2 (terribly optimised single thread bound game) on my R7 1700 @3.8GHz, the fps dropped to ~8 fps in extremely unit heavy situations. Examples like this are often used to show weaknesses in Ryzen gaming. There will always be terribly optimised games which have reliance on single thread performance, although this is becoming less of an issue with modern games.

In situations like this, on paper Intel CPU's can look much better from an FPS standpoint, although in my experience with these games under these workloads they are equally unplayable on both. It doesn't matter if you are getting 8 or 30 fps if you are getting regular 500+ms stutters.

[Guest]

47 minutes ago, Fisting Master said:

I am going to buy a ryzen r5 1600 (without the x)

i have my eyes on Corsair vengeance LPX 16gb(2x8) 3000mhz memory for 140euros(best price i can get in my country)

but there is the exact same memory at 3200mhz for 10euros more

is that worth it?

the system is meant for gaming

no

[Jurrunio]

I'd say 10 euros to go from 3000MHz 16GB to 3200MHz 16GB is very expensive. In some cases you can overclock a 3GHz memory to 3.2GHz, but even if you can't the performance difference isn't noticable.

43 minutes ago, TheDane said:

If it's meant for gaming then you should buy an intel CPU because Ryzen is for workloads not really games

Ryzen is worse in single thread performance, but the price more than balanced that out.

[Kenrou]

1 hour ago, DrMikeNZ said:

In Starcraft 2 (terribly optimised single thread bound game) on my R7 1700 @3.8GHz, the fps dropped to ~8 fps in extremely unit heavy situations. Examples like this are often used to show weaknesses in Ryzen gaming. There will always be terribly optimised games which have reliance on single thread performance, although this is becoming less of an issue with modern games.

In situations like this, on paper Intel CPU's can look much better from an FPS standpoint, although in my experience with these games under these workloads they are equally unplayable on both. It doesn't matter if you are getting 8 or 30 fps if you are getting regular 500+ms stutters.

What ? my old 8370 4.5ghz runs SC2 1080p 60fps max settings on a 1060 6gb while streaming... what the hell do you have running on the background ?

[ewitte]

The main one I play without optimized multi-threaded coding gets about the same as my 6700k but I am running 4k.

 

New DX12/Vukan games at least should eventually actually surpass.  For instance my firestrike dropped quite a bit but timespy is higher than the 6700k.

 

You may not even get 3200 the UEFI of most boards are still getting refined.  I can only get 2666 on my 3200 kit although 2933 is almost stable so the coming microcode updates should fix it.

[DrMikeNZ]

On 5/14/2017 at 11:29 PM, Kenrou said:

What ? my old 8370 4.5ghz runs SC2 1080p 60fps max settings on a 1060 6gb while streaming... what the hell do you have running on the background ?

"Extremely unit heavy situations" is by no means normal for SC2, it was increased unit cap (1000) spammed with 9AI as a stress-test to find the limitations of the engine and assess single-threaded performance. The only thing running in the background was fraps. This test is not representative of real-world SC2 games, the game engine is fine for normal games where unit counts tend to remain low.

[Princess Luna]

I think that 2933mhz is pretty solid, I haven't had much to complain really from what high ram should do I feel it is doing already but if you want to try using 3200mhz to squeeze some more that will mean like 1~2 more fps any ways... I would not lose my sleep over it.

[Drak3]

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 3:05 AM, TheDane said:

If it's meant for gaming then you should buy an intel CPU because Ryzen is for workloads not really games

Except that people can't differentiate from the R7s and the 7700K in blind tests.

 

Level1Techs did a double blind test to tackle the "ryzen gaming is smoother" and the "7700K is the better gaming chip, hands down" myths. They concluded, that with the exception of a few more hiccups with their Intel machines (7700K and a 5960X @ 4.2GHz), people really cannot differentiate between Ryzen, Haswell-E, and Kabylake in gaming, 99% of the time, and the 1%, the Ryzen is marginally better.

 

As it stands, I'm far more willing to recommend the 1700 than the 7700K. Better multitasking whilst gaming, better streaming, and you get more for your money in the long run.

[Drak3]

On ‎5‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 3:41 AM, deXxterlab97 said:

no

A) RAM speed affects Ryzen CPUs more than Intel CPUs, due to infinity fabric clock being tied to RAM clock.

B) Faster RAM speed has more affect on minimums, not averages.