Posted May 2, 2017 Wanted to see who you all though was morally the worst demographic for someone to steal from. Stealing is wrong no matter what, but which situation do you feel is the worst group to steal from. CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/ Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 I can't decide between grandparents and friends. Current System: CPU - I5-6500 | Motherboard - ASRock H170M-ITX/ac | RAM - Mushkin Blackline 16GB DDR4 @ 2400mHz | GPU - EVGA 1060 3GB | Case - Fractal Design Nano S | Storage - 250GB 850 EVO, 3TB Barracuda | PSU - EVGA 450W 80+ Bronze | Display - AOC 22" 1080p IPS | Cooling - Phanteks PH-TC12DX_BK | Keyboard - Cooler Master QuickFire Rapid(MX Blues) | Mouse - Logitech G602 | Sound - Schiit Stack | Operating System - Windows 10 The OG System: I3-2370M @ 2.4 GHz, 750GB 5400 RPM HDD, 8GB RAM @1333Mhz, Lenovo Z580 Laptop (Ubuntu 16.04 LTS). Peripherals: G602, AKG 240, Sennheiser HD 6XX, Audio-Technica 2500, Oneplus 5T, Odroid C2(NAS). Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768104 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Thank you for letting me vote for all 4. -KuJoe Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768108 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Grandparents or parents methinks. Obviously stealing is wrong and all, but I think those groups add a level of trust that is hard to break. Laptop: Asus GA502DU RAM: 16GB DDR4 | CPU: Ryzen 3750H | GPU: GTX 1660ti Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768115 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author Just now, KuJoe said: Thank you for letting me vote for all 4. Hind sight I should have made a category that said stealing from anyone is equally wrong morally though some people feel stealing from the elderly a especially vulnerable group the most morally reprehensible. CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768118 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Define stealing. Situation? Desktop 1: 7800x3d @ stock, 64gb DDR5 @ 6000, Asus 5090 Astral OC, x670 Asus Strix Basement TV Desktop: 7800x3d @ stock, 64gb DDR5 @ 6000, 4080 Super, x670 Asus Strix Laptop: Dell G3 15 - i7-8750h @ stock, 16gb ddr4 @ 2666, 1050Ti Laptop 2: Intel i7 12700k, 3080TI 32gb DDR5 Ram Laptop 3: Intel Core Ultra 9-275HX, 5080, 64GB DDR5 5 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768123 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author 1 minute ago, Rangaman42 said: Grandparents or parents methinks. Obviously stealing is wrong and all, but I think those groups add a level of trust that is hard to break. You mean hard to rebuild. Trust is easy to break with anyone, it just hurts all that much more when you betray the ones who care and love you. CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768125 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author Just now, Raskolnikov said: Define stealing. Situation? Stealing from your parents, grandparents, friends or random people. No specific situation just in general. CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768130 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Just now, MadyTehWolfie said: You mean hard to rebuild. Trust is easy to break with anyone, it just hurts all that much more when you betray the ones who care and love you. I mean that it's hard to bring yourself to break it, if that makes sense. Laptop: Asus GA502DU RAM: 16GB DDR4 | CPU: Ryzen 3750H | GPU: GTX 1660ti Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768133 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author Just now, Rangaman42 said: I mean that it's hard to bring yourself to break it, if that makes sense. That all depends on your psyche CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768136 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 I think of this, family is going to be close with you no matter what. Not saying friends is anything bad or so, but you can lose friends and make friends at the same time. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768140 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author Just now, Bubblewhale said: I think of this, family is going to be close with you no matter what. Not saying friends is anything bad or so, but you can lose friends and make friends at the same time. No specific answer is the correct or wrong answer. They are based on your own morality and choice and aren't inherently bad if they dont align with someone else's thoughts on morality in this given situation. CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768148 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 43 minutes ago, MadyTehWolfie said: Wanted to see who you all though was morally the worst demographic for someone to steal from. Stealing is wrong no matter what, but which situation do you feel is the worst group to steal from. I would say hard working people, families, old people or generally anyone who is less off. Noble professions like doctors, ambulance emt's, hospital workers, cafeteria workers, waitresses, service industry folks who work hard and break a sweat. I dont care about big corp's getting fucked, as they fuck people over all the time. Banks for one, Finance industry, major retailers, large schools, nationwide outfits, multi-national companies, O&G, Apples and IBM's of the world, HD, Lowes, Rona, Safeways, COOP, Loblaws, Dealerships. Commercial real estate. I could care less about Walmart, Crap-O-Rama aka DollaRama. Lawyers. Police. Peace Officers. Bylaw Enforcement. City Hall. Prov/State government, Federal Government, CRA/Taxes, CSIS, RCMP. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768252 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author 19 minutes ago, yathis said: I would say hard working people, families, old people or generally anyone who is less off. Noble professions like doctors, ambulance emt's, hospital workers, cafeteria workers, waitresses, service industry folks who work hard and break a sweat. I dont care about big corp's getting fucked, as they fuck people over all the time. Banks for one, Finance industry, major retailers, large schools, nationwide outfits, multi-national companies, O&G, Apples and IBM's of the world, HD, Lowes, Rona, Safeways, COOP, Loblaws, Dealerships. Commercial real estate. I could care less about Walmart, Crap-O-Rama aka DollaRama. Lawyers. Police. Peace Officers. Bylaw Enforcement. City Hall. Prov/State government, Federal Government, CRA/Taxes, CSIS, RCMP. I would argue that all the people you list above work for large corporations. Thus when they get screwed over so do the hard working people of that company. Not saying your right or your wrong just that the truth is everyone works for a big corp unless your a small business owner or live off the grid living off the land like survivor man style. CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768325 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Two things here Out of their own pocket? Stealing from them personally. Or stealing from big corps. Stealing from big corps the cost is outlayed into the consumer side. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768332 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Welp that is a stupid question, sorry not sound blunt or maybe I do. Stealing is stealing, no matter how you look at it is all the same, you are still taking something form someone else and it still hurts them the same either way. OP add one more option to your poll D) All of the above <---- COMMUNITY STANDARDS | TECH NEWS POSTING GUIDELINES | FORUM STAFF LTT Folding Users Tips, Tricks and FAQ | F@H & BOINC Badge Request | F@H Contribution | My Rig | Project Steamroller I am a Moderator, but I am fallible. Discuss or debate with me as you will but please do not argue with me as that will get us nowhere. Spoiler Character is like a Tree and Reputation like its Shadow. The Shadow is what we think of it; The Tree is the Real thing. ~ Abraham Lincoln You have enemies? Good. That means you've stood up for something, sometime in your life. ~ Winston Churchill Reputation is a Lifetime to create but takes only seconds to destroy. Docendo discimus - "to teach is to learn" † † † † CHRISTIAN MEMBER † Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768340 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 There is no moral right (or 'more right') in stealing. But it really depends on your relationship with the three parties you know. Some grandparents don't care about their grandchildren and at that point it might feel less wrong for said grandparent to steal.. same with parents. Friends are chosen by you, so it's probably the wordt morally to steal from them. Random people is morally in the middle, since you don't have a relationship with them. "We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami. mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/ mini_cardboard: a 4% keyboard build log and how keyboards work: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1328547-mini_cardboard-a-4-keyboard-build-log-and-how-keyboards-work/ Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768538 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Since your parents are the ones who care for you, raise you, and love the most (some people have different situations) I'd have to say parents or grandparents as they are the reason for your existence. And as the saying goes "you shouldn't bite the hand that feeds you" As for friends, I feel like you would get what you deserve if you were to actually steal from a friend. They simply wouldn't want to friends with you anymore... Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768617 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 I voted all of them, because stealing is wrong end of story. Stealing from one of the other is no worse than stealing from any of them. Stealing is stealing and its bad. System Specs: CPU: Ryzen 7 5800X GPU: Radeon RX 7900 XT RAM: 32GB 3600MHz HDD: 1TB Sabrent NVMe - WD 1TB Black - WD 2TB Green - WD 4TB Blue MB: Gigabyte B550 Gaming X- RGB Disabled PSU: Corsair RM850x 80 Plus Gold Case: BeQuiet! Silent Base 801 Black Cooler: Noctua NH-DH15 Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768653 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 I've stolen from my mom, friends and random people. I regret it all Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9768859 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 They are all horrible but Grandparents is the worst. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9769121 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 They are all humans so in the end it's all equally bad imo... If you want my attention, quote meh! D: or just stick an @samcool55 in your post :3 Spying on everyone to fight against terrorism is like shooting a mosquito with a cannon Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9769126 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Author 7 hours ago, SansVarnic said: Welp that is a stupid question, sorry not sound blunt or maybe I do. Stealing is stealing, no matter how you look at it is all the same, you are still taking something form someone else and it still hurts them the same either way. OP add one more option to your poll D) All of the above <---- It's not a stupid question as you can see from the poll people have vary in how they feel about it. Also one person can vote for all of the above. Next poll I make will have that option. It's good to see people express their different views which was the ultimate goal of this post. ? CPU: 6700K Case: Corsair Air 740 CPU Cooler: H110i GTX Storage: 2x250gb SSD 960gb SSD PSU: Corsair 1200watt GPU: EVGA 1080ti FTW3 RAM: 16gb DDR4 Other Stuffs: Red sleeved cables, White LED lighting 2 noctua fans on cpu cooler and Be Quiet PWM fans on case. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9769535 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Well really, I considering wholly immoral to steal in general. But in terms of what it'd hurt the most, it'd hurt the trust of your parents greatly, far more than stealing from friends or grandparents. Check out my guide on how to scan cover art here! Local asshole and 6th generation console enthusiast. Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9770901 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted May 2, 2017 Full supporter in regard to stealing be wrong in every way, personally, I believe stealing from strangers is the worst. Stealing from random people/strangers is worse because: - You don't know their situation, therefore you have no idea the impact your actions are taking - You most likely won't see them again, therefore there is no opportunity to right the wrong - They are more likely to take legal action against you - There is little chance of stealing to right an "inequity", whereas the other options may give someone a motive of "righting a wrong" or "getting their fair share from family/friends" Just a thought, very interesting topic! Good post OP CPU: Intel Core i7 8700k 3.7Ghz MOBO: AsRock Z370 Extreme4 RAM: Corsair Vengeance (4x4) Storage: Crucial MX300 275Gb | WD Blue 1Tb GPU: XFX RS RX480 8Gb Case: Corsair 270R PSU: Seasonic Focus+ 750w Monitors: HP 22cwa | BenQ BL2420PT Cans: ATH-M50x Link to comment https://linustechtips.com/topic/774292-a-poll-on-stealing/#findComment-9770930 Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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