When should we expect Intel to respond with reduced prices and/or new CPUs?

[XxKINGxX40]

I would get Ryzen, but too late. Already have a z270 mobo. When should we expect Intel to respond to AMD?

[Sakkura]

Price cut to the Core i3-7350K should happen quickly. The rest of the lineup might not change until they launch Coffee Lake and Cannonlake etc.

[NumLock21]

Return mobo.

There problem solved

[NTDaws]

2 minutes ago, NumLock21 said:

Return mobo.

There problem solved

 

4 minutes ago, XxKINGxX40 said:

I would get Ryzen, but too late. 

 

[Sauron]

Why would you buy the motherboard before the cpu? Either way I'd expect new cpus in the next 3-4 months, don't count on huge price cuts.

[DarkBlade2117]

2 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said:

 

 

Are you dumb or did you just read the first 5 words of his post?

[zMeul]

returns Z270 board, buys Zen board and CPU .. only to discover AMD overhyped Zen

for everything else, there's MasterCard 

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

returns Z270 board, buys Zen board and CPU .. only to discover AMD overhyped Zen

for everything else, there's MasterCard 

Well, considering the R7 1700 comes close to the 6800k/6900k whilst being $330~ (on a good day), I wouldn't call it overhype.

[zMeul]

2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Well, considering the R7 1700 comes close to the 6800k/6900k whilst being $330~ (on a good day), I wouldn't call it overhype.

you mean AMD sais

the independent benchmarks haven't released and haven't confirmed AMD's claims 

[XxKINGxX40]

Just the right amount of hype, i'd say. Meh, no big deal. I'll skip the 1000 series Ryzen, will see what happens next gen with both Intel and AMD. I'm expecting Intel to be much more competitive now.

[TheRandomness]

1 minute ago, zMeul said:

you mean AMD sais

the independent benchmarks haven't released and haven't confirmed AMD's claims 

Well, if they lied about the benchmarks, they wouldn't be a company anymore.

[zMeul]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

Well, if they lied about the benchmarks, they wouldn't be a company anymore.

Fiji / HMB - overhyped

Polaris - overhyped

 

3rd strike and you're out

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Well, if they lied about the benchmarks, they wouldn't be a company anymore.

They may not lie. But when you have a product you emphasize its strengths, not its weaknesses.... This is why we should wait for independent benchmarks....

[TidaLWaveZ]

Cherrypicking is the name of the game gentlemen.

[NumLock21]

8 minutes ago, Dawson Wehage said:

 

 

Only the lazy ones will say it's too late, even when there is plenty of time left.

[typographie]

9 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Well, if they lied about the benchmarks, they wouldn't be a company anymore.

I'm sure these benchmarks aren't lies, but Cinebench multithreaded tests are probably the best-case scenario for an aggressively priced product with 16 logical cores. The FX-8350 generally scores better than an i5-6600K in Cinebench, but that doesn't mean Intel can't still sell the latter for $250.

[knightslugger]

i donno, it's pretty hard to fake or otherwise blunder CB15 scores...

[musama18117]

None of these posts have got anything to do with price cuts.

[XxKINGxX40]

1 minute ago, musama18117 said:

None of these posts have got anything to do with price cuts.

Welcome to LTT forums.

[Sakkura]

2 minutes ago, typographie said:

I'm sure these benchmarks aren't lies, but Cinebench multithreaded tests are probably the best-case scenario for an aggressively priced product with 16 logical cores. The FX-8350 generally scores better than an i5-6600K in Cinebench, but that doesn't mean Intel can't still sell the latter for $250.

But if 8 Zen cores match 8 Broadwell cores in multithreaded scenarios, 1 Zen core should also match 1 Broadwell core in singlethreaded scenarios.

[TheRandomness]

10 minutes ago, zMeul said:

Fiji / HBM - overhyped

Polaris - overhyped

 

3rd strike and you're out

Polaris decided to live up to it's hype after a few months  though I do agree with HBM

9 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

They may not lie. But when you have a product you emphasize its strengths, not its weaknesses.... This is why we should wait for independent benchmarks....

I guess that's true, but subtract 15-20% from the current scores and you still get a very competitive CPU.

2 minutes ago, typographie said:

I'm sure these benchmarks aren't lies, but Cinebench multithreaded tests are probably the best-case scenario for an aggressively priced product with 16 logical cores. The FX-8350 generally scores better than an i5-6600K in Cinebench, but that doesn't mean Intel can't still sell the latter for $250.

Well, they also did a Battlefield 1 showcase with a 6800k (~3.2GHz) vs. a 1700 (~3.6GHz) with the 1700 in the lead with a noticeable difference. The difference in clockspeeds does show that Ryzen should be just under Broadwell in terms of IPC though.

3 minutes ago, Sakkura said:

But if 8 Zen cores match 8 Broadwell cores in multithreaded scenarios, 1 Zen core should also match 1 Broadwell core in singlethreaded scenarios.

Unless AMD has a better way of multithreading, which they do (where the single thread scores are the same as Haswell/Broadwell but the multithread scores are better).

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, Sakkura said:

But if 8 Zen cores match 8 Broadwell cores in multithreaded scenarios, 1 Zen core should also match 1 Broadwell core in singlethreaded scenarios.

But, were they running at the same frequency? From Linus's video we can see that AMD boosts all of its cores, whereas Intel doesn't.....

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, TheRandomness said:

I guess that's true, but subtract 15-20% from the current scores and you still get a very competitive CPU.

For $500, even if it was 50% slower, it would still be a bargain as it costs 100% less

[SnowyMus]

I'm guessing we'll see some sort of price cut soon after Intel releases yet another overclocked version of the i7-6700K.

 

In seriousness, I don't imagine any sort of response like a price cut immediately.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

Well, they also did a Battlefield 1 showcase with a 6800k (~3.2GHz) vs. a 1700 (~3.6GHz) with the 1700 in the lead with a noticeable difference. The difference in clockspeeds does show that Ryzen should be just under Broadwell in terms of IPC though.

I think that Ryzen is slightly faster than Haswell (IPC wise).... AMD is able to boost all of its cores and Battlefield 1 is able to use all those cores.... Anyway, even if it is not on par with Broadwell, AMD has created an amazing CPU, both in terms of performance and in terms of value