Cheap AIO's Are they worth it???

[Allard]

So I have an issue, I have a i5 6500 and im tired of looking at the stock intel cooler, I was considering buying the Cryorig H7 or C7. When i have the new cooler I want to boost clock my cpu. Now i found this AIO that looks very nice, and is very cheap. 

Link to cooler: https://www.amazon.co.uk/DEEPCOOL-Maelstrom-Liquid-Cooler-Cooling/dp/B01FVSFO1A/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i1_r?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=JGZSJXHPCR19KMCZK29H&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=16f14aeb-bd11-4e9e-8c26-9ca0139074ee&pf_rd_i=desktop

 

I am worried about leaks tho and if it's worth it since I only have an i5 6500. Aesthetics are important to me but not the most so much that I would make a bad purchase. 

 

The other reason why i would take this route is because of the following, I only have 1 intake fan right now and 1 exhaust fan + power supply exhaust. This is negative pressure, i want possitive pressure. So if i went the route of the C7 or H7 i would need an extra fan as well. But if i would take the route of the AIO i would use this as an exhaust + the power supply and move the current exhaust fan to be an intake fan. Which would make the total basicly the same: C7 or H7 + rgb fan VS AIO cooler. 

 

All help is welcome. Thanks for reading.

[The Sloth]

yup long as they are from a reputable company.

[Allard]

1 minute ago, nerdslayer1 said:

yup long as they are from a reputable company.

Have you read the entire story, it states which brand i want.

[Himommies]

I would reccomend a air cooler over a 120mm water cooler.They are not worth it.Either get a 240mm plus or not at all

[Allard]

3 minutes ago, Himommies said:

I would reccomend a air cooler over a 120mm water cooler.They are not worth it.Either get a 240mm plus or not at all

Why are 120mm water coolers not worth it? 

[NTDaws]

They should be fine as long as its not a H55. 

[Himommies]

1 minute ago, Allard said:

Why are 120mm water coolers not worth it? 

More points of failure more expensive and perform pretty much the same to air coolers.And let me quote the corsair blog'

"water cooling picks up where air coolers left off,"

http://www.corsair.com/en/blog/2015/april/liquid-cooling-vs-air-cooling-which-performs-better

 

[manikyath]

i just want to mention, at that pricepoint you're in noctua D9L range, or the large variety in cyrorig options

[Enderman]

3 minutes ago, Allard said:

Why are 120mm water coolers not worth it? 

Because they perform much worse than an air cooler that costs the same and produces less noise.

[manikyath]

3 minutes ago, Allard said:

Why are 120mm water coolers not worth it? 

because they dont perform better than a good tower cooler, even at this cheap cost the same if not more than a good tower cooler, they have more points of failure (tubing/rad that can leak, pump that can fail), are louder, and *if* the pump fails (which is usually the first thing to go) you're reduced to quite literally no cooling at all, as compared to a tower cooler's first failure which is the fan, in which case there's still a surprising amount of passive capacity there.

[aisle9]

120mm AIOs are an absolute waste of time and money unless your CPU requires one and your case can't handle anything more substantial, and even then I'd recommend reevaluating one or the other instead of a 120mm AIO.

 

Also worth pointing out: the i5-6500 is not overclockable unless you plan to buy a Z170 board. If you do, the price difference between the 6500 and 6600K is so little that you, imo, should have just bought the 6600K in the first place for a proper OC that doesn't screw with other aspects of your PC.

 

If you do have an H or B chipset for your i5-6500, you don't need an aftermarket cooler. I have a Cryorig C7 on mine literally because I had a C7 lying around and nothing else to do with it, and the thermals never even come close to the level of needing an AIO or a bigger air cooler.

 

In summation, if you own a Z board and intend to overclock an i5-6500, take it back and exchange it for a 6600K. The difference in price is close enough that the unlocked multiplier is worth the premium. 120mm AIOs are never a good idea because they add cost and complexity while losing to air coolers in the same price bracket. Of the coolers you've mentioned, the H7 will give you the best performance and quietest system.

 

Also, move your rear exhaust fan up to the front of the case as an intake. The H7 will do a perfectly good job of exhausting air. Pressure problem solved.

[Mr.Meerkat]

14 minutes ago, manikyath said:

i just want to mention, at that pricepoint you're in noctua D9L range, or the large variety in cyrorig options

But...but...it's not white...or as good looking  

 

L00ks>price to performance obviously /s

[manikyath]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

But...but...it's not white...or as good looking  

 

L00ks>price to performance obviously /s

which is why i said cyrorig, because they actually look quite sexy.

[DailyProcrastinator]

18 minutes ago, Allard said:

So I have an issue, I have a i5 6500 and im tired of looking at the stock intel cooler, I was considering buying the Cryorig H7 or C7. When i have the new cooler I want to boost clock my cpu. Now i found this AIO that looks very nice, and is very cheap. 

Link to cooler: https://www.amazon.co.uk/DEEPCOOL-Maelstrom-Liquid-Cooler-Cooling/dp/B01FVSFO1A/ref=s9_simh_gw_g147_i1_r?_encoding=UTF8&fpl=fresh&pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_s=&pf_rd_r=JGZSJXHPCR19KMCZK29H&pf_rd_t=36701&pf_rd_p=16f14aeb-bd11-4e9e-8c26-9ca0139074ee&pf_rd_i=desktop

 

I am worried about leaks tho and if it's worth it since I only have an i5 6500. Aesthetics are important to me but not the most so much that I would make a bad purchase. 

 

The other reason why i would take this route is because of the following, I only have 1 intake fan right now and 1 exhaust fan + power supply exhaust. This is negative pressure, i want possitive pressure. So if i went the route of the C7 or H7 i would need an extra fan as well. But if i would take the route of the AIO i would use this as an exhaust + the power supply and move the current exhaust fan to be an intake fan. Which would make the total basicly the same: C7 or H7 + rgb fan VS AIO cooler. 

 

All help is welcome. Thanks for reading.

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DeepCool is a good reputable company. My DeepCool Captain 240 is now 3 years old and going strong, even outlasting a Cooler Master Neptune 240 that I had to RMA for a failed pump in less than a year (they just sent me a new one). So I would feel very safe buying that AIO cooler. That being said all the big manufacturers make very good AIO coolers, I have owned DeepCool, Corsair, Cooler Master, and  Silverstone AIO coolers and would recommend all those brands to those interested in them. NZXT and Thermaltake also make excellent AIO coolers.

[Mr.Meerkat]

4 minutes ago, manikyath said:

which is why i said cyrorig, because they actually look quite sexy.

But still not white...  

But yeah, the H7 is a pretty damn sexy cooler with a nice price tag (albeit a tad high in the UK)

 

2 minutes ago, JM21 said:

My DeepCool Captain 240 is now 3 years old and going strong

My "refurb" corsair H100i is also 3 years old and going strong...who said "refurb" AIO are a bad idea?  

[trajama_rama]

I have and love my corsair h60 for my workstation pc. I use an I7 7700k and once I got my h60 working properly it works well under extended periods of load. but then again the h60 is more expensive and not white...

[DailyProcrastinator]

4 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

But still not white...  

But yeah, the H7 is a pretty damn sexy cooler with a nice price tag (albeit a tad high in the UK)

 

My "refurb" corsair H100i is also 3 years old and going strong...who said "refurb" AIO are a bad idea?  

 

The thing about refurbished products is that you know someone who knows their shit has taken the product apart, fixed, tested it, and confirmed it now works again. Where as a product off the assembly line is not usually looked at or tested to the same degree.

[The Sloth]

43 minutes ago, Allard said:

Have you read the entire story, it states which brand i want.

yes i have and deep cool is a reputable brand, i was talking about generally. 

[atomicus]

Whichever way you slice it, an air cooler is always going to be more reliable than any AIO, and the top end Noctua NH-D15 would beat any 120mm AIO... heck, that beats almost any 240/280 AIO!! If performance is a concern, then you're simply better off with air, or perhaps a BeQuiet Dark Rock Pro 3 or Cryorig R1 if you find the Noctua unattractive visually (which would be understandable). Any of those (and others besides) would best the Deepcool you've selected. An AIO really only makes sense if your primary concern is the aesthetic.

[Remonix]

Btw I kinda flew through the responses, but you can't overclock a 6500, you need the 6500k if you want to overclock

[aisle9]

4 hours ago, JM21 said:

The thing about refurbished products is that you know someone who knows their shit has taken the product apart, fixed, tested it, and confirmed it now works again. Where as a product off the assembly line is not usually looked at or tested to the same degree.

Careful with that. If it's manufacturer refurbished and the manufacturer is a good, reliable one with great service should something go wrong, yes, refurb parts are a great way to save money. Lots of those parts are just items that were returned under the guise of "defective" because the purchaser changed their mind and didn't want to pay a return or restock fee.

 

If it's seller refurbished, run. Like, run. Unless the price is so amazing that you can't pass it up and the seller has tons of positive feedback, high ratings, whatever, going back over a period of at least 12 months. For most sellers out there, the meaning of "refurbished" is, "I blew off most of the dust I could see, made sure that it powers up, then stuck it in a box and raised my price by 10%."

[DailyProcrastinator]

4 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Careful with that. If it's manufacturer refurbished and the manufacturer is a good, reliable one with great service should something go wrong, yes, refurb parts are a great way to save money. Lots of those parts are just items that were returned under the guise of "defective" because the purchaser changed their mind and didn't want to pay a return or restock fee.

 

If it's seller refurbished, run. Like, run. Unless the price is so amazing that you can't pass it up and the seller has tons of positive feedback, high ratings, whatever, going back over a period of at least 12 months. For most sellers out there, the meaning of "refurbished" is, "I blew off most of the dust I could see, made sure that it powers up, then stuck it in a box and raised my price by 10%."

 

Oh I know, I have only ever bought one GPU from Asus that was manufacturer refurbished. And it came with 18 months of warranty from Asus. It was a GTX 970 Strix and it's now running in my brothers system without a hiccup. If the seller were to refurbish it I would never consider buying said hardware from them. I definitely agree with what you're saying.

[FrankV]

18 hours ago, nerdslayer1 said:

yup long as they are from a reputable company.

Deepcool is a name a see regularly. Not quite like Corsair or EVGA but still out there.... I'd google for their reputation. 

[sl06bhytmar]

Provided  AIO in first post is good, it is Asetek rebranded cooler, basically indestructible and leaks that happen are a) manufacturing fault if it happens during first months of use b) user errors due cutting hose with sharp object, making uber tight turn and forced it to stay in that position. c) O-ring failing after 10 years inside pump, still fixable if PCB isn't wasn't fried. d) liquid level so low that liquid doesn't return anymore back to hoses (noisy pump), usually takes 10 years, low on liquid level from start takes 5 years

 

 

[Mooshi]

AIOs are only worth it if you have a small case and can't fit anything better. I have an H7 and it keeps an overclocked 6700k in an itx case in the mid 20's on idle and 60ish on game load.