Cat5e vs Cat6 for long cable runs

[Lord Nicoll]

I'm kinda tired of having the heat and noise of my servers in my house, so I'm working on converting my shed into a more suitable home for them, but while currently they're quite close to my router and it's switch, I'll be moving them far away, not too far, the cable run will be about 50 metres as it follows my walls, but I was thinking of adding a 10 Gb/s link directly from my main MAS VM holding server to my PC, which would be almost 70 metre run for CAT6 at 10Gb/s and bypass the local switch, which by some peoples opinions (but I'll never go by just one opinion, or the rated spec sheet, they tend to be conservative) is too far for CAT6 10Gb. I'd rather not have to buy a fibreoptic cable and switch system (if it can be avoided) so would CAT6 work or is it just better to go with 1Gb/s through the main network?

[Electronics Wizardy]

id go cat 6a if its a long run.

[Lord Nicoll]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

id go cat 6a if its a long run.

Yeah, even if it's not going to give perfect 10Gb/s it'd still be better I guess.

[mariushm]

Cat6 will work for small distances with 10gbps . I don't know the exact distance, it think it's something like 55 meters but personally, I wouldn't use it for more than 30 meters.

Cat6a (in some places is sold as Cat7) is guaranteed to do 10 gbps for up to 100 meters.

Note though, the network jacks and how well they're connected also matters a lot. Buy proper jacks.

 

[pwn_intended]

Gor a 10Gbit link, definitely go AT LEAST cat 6. If just going for gigabit, cat5e will work plenty fine.

Given the cost difference between the 2 being fairly minimal now, I would go for cat6 though.

[Lord Nicoll]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Cat6 will work for small distances with 10gbps . I don't know the exact distance, it think it's something like 55 meters but personally, I wouldn't use it for more than 30 meters.

Cat6a (in some places is sold as Cat7) is guaranteed to do 10 gbps for up to 100 meters.

Note though, the network jacks and how well they're connected also matters a lot. Buy proper jacks.

 

I'd by buying a blank spool and terminating it at both end with wall mounded units as it has to go through multiple drilled holes in around 5 walls.

[Lord Nicoll]

1 minute ago, pwn_intended said:

Gor a 10Gbit link, definitely go AT LEAST cat 6. If just going for gigabit, cat5e will work plenty fine.

Given the cost difference between the 2 being fairly minimal now, I would go for cat6 though.

That's where common sense lies, Only that server has 10Gb/s, as an add in PCI-e card, ditto for my PC (the plan was to connect them but I never did it and now it's moving away) CAT6A might be a solution as someone else pointed out.

 

[Oshino Shinobu]

Go for Cat6a. The difference in price between that and Cat6 is very small and it supports 10GBASE-T at 100M rather than 55M with Cat6. 

[mariushm]

Here's some good connectors  (easy to buy from Ireland)

 

(the body of the connector) HIROSE TMP31-TM-88P (61) : http://ie.farnell.com/hirose-hrs/tm31p-tm-88p-61/plug-rj45-cat6a-body/dp/1719112

(the wire guide) HIROSE TM31P-TM-88P(62) : http://ie.farnell.com/hirose-hrs/tm31p-tm-88p-62/plug-rj45-cat6a-wire-guide/dp/1719113

(the plastic cover) HIROSE TMP21-88P(13)  http://ie.farnell.com/hirose-hrs/tm21p-88p-13/hood-tm21-tm31-black/dp/1764396

^ replace (13) with numbers from 11 to 19 for different colors ... and search that product code on Farnell

 

You need a set of one of each to build the whole connector.  It's proper cat6a, at around 2 euros for the whole assembly it's reasonable.

 

cat6 connectors are a bit cheaper and may work just as well .. ex

MOLEX  44915-0001  Modular Connector, Cat6, RJ45, 44915 Series, Plug, 8 Contacts, 8 Ways, 1 Ports : http://ie.farnell.com/molex/44915-0001/modular-plug-idc-rj45-cat6-8p8c/dp/2067046

STEWART CONNECTOR  SS-39200-011  Modular Connector, Cat6, RJ45, Plug, 8 Contacts, 8 Ways, 1 Ports : http://ie.farnell.com/stewart-connector-bel/ss-39200-011/modular-plug-ftp-cat6-8p8c/dp/1572185

 

ca6a / cat7 cable is about 100 euros for 100 meters :

 

violet : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000422/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449590

light blue  : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000416/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449584

black : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000420/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449588

yellow : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000418/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449586

 

Regular cat6 is cheaper , around 63 euros for 100 meters :  http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/cat6shielded100m/cable-6-shielded-100m/dp/2580441

 

The cables may be more expensive than what you find in stores specialized on networking stuff, Farnell is more for electronic parts (chips and passives and other stuff)

[Lord Nicoll]

1 minute ago, mariushm said:

Here's some good connectors  (easy to buy from Ireland)

 

(the body of the connector) HIROSE TMP31-TM-88P (61) : http://ie.farnell.com/hirose-hrs/tm31p-tm-88p-61/plug-rj45-cat6a-body/dp/1719112

(the wire guide) HIROSE TM31P-TM-88P(62) : http://ie.farnell.com/hirose-hrs/tm31p-tm-88p-62/plug-rj45-cat6a-wire-guide/dp/1719113

(the plastic cover) HIROSE TMP21-88P(13)  http://ie.farnell.com/hirose-hrs/tm21p-88p-13/hood-tm21-tm31-black/dp/1764396

^ replace (13) with numbers from 11 to 19 for different colors ... and search that product code on Farnell

 

You need a set of one of each to build the whole connector.  It's proper cat6a, at around 2 euros for the whole assembly it's reasonable.

 

cat6 connectors are a bit cheaper and may work just as well .. ex

MOLEX  44915-0001  Modular Connector, Cat6, RJ45, 44915 Series, Plug, 8 Contacts, 8 Ways, 1 Ports : http://ie.farnell.com/molex/44915-0001/modular-plug-idc-rj45-cat6-8p8c/dp/2067046

STEWART CONNECTOR  SS-39200-011  Modular Connector, Cat6, RJ45, Plug, 8 Contacts, 8 Ways, 1 Ports : http://ie.farnell.com/stewart-connector-bel/ss-39200-011/modular-plug-ftp-cat6-8p8c/dp/1572185

 

ca6a / cat7 cable is about 100 euros for 100 meters :

 

violet : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000422/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449590

light blue  : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000416/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449584

black : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000420/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449588

yellow : http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/pp000418/cat7-cable-lszh-4pr-23awg-100m/dp/2449586

 

Regular cat6 is cheaper , around 63 euros for 100 meters :  http://ie.farnell.com/pro-power/cat6shielded100m/cable-6-shielded-100m/dp/2580441

 

The cables may be more expensive than what you find in stores specialized on networking stuff, Farnell is more for electronic parts (chips and passives and other stuff)

I have a trade account with farnell as I make and populate my own circuit boards and got a friends VAT number and company info in exchange for making rapid prototypes and weird shit (like an LED controller that also controls a vibrator, I couldn't [and didn't] want to guess what for) so all that stuff is even cheaper for me.