[Rumor] Zen Can OC To 5GHz on Air

[DELTAprime]

10 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Total sarcasm. I wanted to see if I'd get any nuclear reactions.

Well just so you know I was going to post a sarcastic but not quit nuclear reply but I'm trying to be nice to others.

[Energycore]

9 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Seriously, the CS Cum Laude Graduate who's 1 class and a dissertation short of a Master's (in just 4 years) doesn't know the basics?

I'm gonna assume that you had your tongue in your cheek while writing this

[patrickjp93]

4 minutes ago, MageTank said:

That's fine and dandy, but you will never be able to tell me why kids love the taste of Cinnamon Toast Crunch. Also, thermodynamics is easy peasy. Thermo = thermal, dynamics = change. Changing thermals. You are welcome. 

Until you do it in 3 dimensions using PDEQs and have to calculate how long it'll take to melt an ice cube based on both convection and conduction. Oh, and the surface area shape change and the ratio change of SA to Volume as it melts. Trust me, that's the 30-point question on the final that exactly two people got right, and one of them cheated. I got a respectable 20 of the available points.

[Vode]

1 minute ago, DELTAprime said:

Well just so you know I was going to post a sarcastic but not quit nuclear reply but I'm trying to be nice to others.

 

[patrickjp93]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

I'm gonna assume that you had your tongue in your cheek while writing this

Yes I blow my own horn from time to time, but magetank knows I'm good with math and programming, and any good Computer Science program tends to require 3 courses of either physics or chemistry. Like I said, this is the basics.

[Energycore]

Just now, patrickjp93 said:

Yes I blow my own horn from time to time, but magetank knows I'm good with math and programming, and any good Computer Science program tends to require 3 courses of either physics or chemistry. Like I said, this is the basics.

Or you can read der8auer's article

[patrickjp93]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Or you can read der8auer's article

I have no idea who that is, but names are a weakness of mine.

[Energycore]

Just now, patrickjp93 said:

I have no idea who that is, but names are a weakness of mine.

The Truth about CPU Soldering - Overclocking.Guide

[MageTank]

5 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Yes I blow my own horn from time to time, but magetank knows I'm good with math and programming, and any good Computer Science program tends to require 3 courses of either physics or chemistry. Like I said, this is the basics.

Hey, I know no such thing. I know you are good at typing numbers, but I am bad at math, and often don't know what those numbers mean. I normally just nod my head at you until I see an opening. It's why my title says what it does, lol.

[TheKDub]

I'll take this with a a chunk of salt about the size of the one in his hands ^

 

If it's true, that's great, hopefully some decent competition will push Intel to advance even more.

On the flip side, I wonder how high the upcoming desktop Kaby Lake CPUs will be able to reach on air and water.

[patrickjp93]

2 minutes ago, TheKDub said:

 

I'll take this with a a chunk of salt about the size of the one in his hands ^

 

If it's true, that's great, hopefully some decent competition will push Intel to advance even more.

On the flip side, I wonder how high the upcoming desktop Kaby Lake CPUs will be able to reach on air and water.

Kaby is reaching 5 again on water. I don't think anyone's tried with an NH-D15.

[patrickjp93]

1 minute ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

come over to 

And I know people who'll do that for you

Nah, I have indentured servants if I really need it.

[arnavvr]

It's one fucking chip. Let's wait till these CPUs actually get into consumers hands, and see how they overclock on Air. I doubt it, especially since 32nm was the only architecture that could overclock too 5Ghz reliably.

[patrickjp93]

17 minutes ago, Energycore said:

The Truth about CPU Soldering - Overclocking.Guide

Nice read. I'm keeping this in my back pocket, especially when on wccf.

[AlwaysFSX]

49 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

Tomorrow. That's also when I step up as a moderator and have to stop biting people's heads off. Sigh...

I'd pay to see that..

[patrickjp93]

5 minutes ago, AlwaysFSX said:

I'd pay to see that..

I accept payment in the form of raw cash, or a Core I7 7700K. Either one works.

[Drak3]

39 minutes ago, MageTank said:

You've honestly surprised me Patrick. Not too many people understand this, lol. 

100% sure he's just repeating what's been posted on every Zen thread where the potential soldered IHS has ever been mentioned.

[patrickjp93]

2 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

100% sure he's just repeating what's been posted on every Zen thread where the potential soldered IHS has ever been mentioned.

I'm pretty sure I knew that stuff already (minus the degree of metallurgy involved), and I'm not the only one.

[Drak3]

4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

I'm pretty sure I knew that stuff already

Well yeah, the thread where you claimed an AMD CPU was a Xeon, even though there's more similarity between a RAM 1500 and a ferret, went into a decent conversation about it, and is what, like two or three weeks old?

[AlwaysFSX]

10 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

I accept payment in the form of raw cash, or a Core I7 7700K. Either one works.

I hear pocket lint is trading high these days.

[Lord Nicoll]

3 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/amd-ryzen-processors-reach-5-ghz-on-air,2.html

 

Nothing else really to say. If this is true (which buildzoid claims is unlikely), it will likely be NH-D15 territory only and very rarely.

 

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"I'll just use this comment to say this since it's relevant to me.

I don't have a Zen but I know people who do.

I continue to stand by my comment about 5G not happening on air without too much voltage. This doesn't disprove the statement of ZenOC@Air=5G however I wouldn't get your hopes up because we don't know how many cores or volts actually managed that clock. (my sources never gave me absolute max clock just that it does about X.X for daily use)

For all those wondering about X.X. Well lets just say that I am pleased with 

X.X."

 

well, they did make a 5GHz boost clock FX processor using what I assumed is stone transistors, so maybe they've upgraded to bronze transistors and the added culture and farming allows a high overclock, but serious face for a second, There are always going to be hand picked top .1% chips sent out to reviews and "leaked" to overclocking websites, it makes it seem less obvious the chip was cherry picked. 

[patrickjp93]

12 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

well, they did make a 5GHz boost clock FX processor using what I assumed is stone transistors, so maybe they've upgraded to bronze transistors and the added culture and farming allows a high overclock, but serious face for a second, There are always going to be hand picked top .1% chips sent out to reviews and "leaked" to overclocking websites, it makes it seem less obvious the chip was cherry picked. 

Piledriver was a very loose-time (low IPC) architecture on a very leaky/power-inefficient node(32nm SOI bulk planar). Intel's own Sandy Bridge processors can reach 5+ with a fair amount of frequency. As timings get tighter for higher IPC, higher clocks become more and more difficult (the actual circuits on the CPU fire much faster than the CPU's actual shown clock speed), and FinFET also hampered Intel's upper clock speed ceilings. To expect it to not have a similar effect on AMD is a bit ridiculous imho.

[Bouzoo]

This thread is getting pretty weird. 

[patrickjp93]

7 minutes ago, Bouzoo said:

This thread is getting pretty weird. 

What, actual intelligent conversations are weird on LTT threads?

 

Oh...

[MageTank]

4 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

What, actual intelligent conversations are weird on LTT threads?

 

Oh...

Even more so since you are involved in them.

 

I'll show myself out.