[Rumor] Zen Can OC To 5GHz on Air

[Doobeedoo]

No info about anything like cores temps and such. But oh well, it's something I guess. I really wish to see the difference between clocks on 8-core and 4-core part. Also how well can Ryzen OC too.

[79wjd]

What's so special about this? My old POS router has been able to do 5ghz for years.

[DocSwag]

3 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

What's so special about this? My old POS router has been able to do 5ghz for years.

Oh yeah?

 

My 10 year old MICROWAVE can operate at nearly 2.5 ghz. TAKE THAT!!!

[ZackBarletto]

Either way i'm excited. Seems a little far fetched on air, but at 95W TDP...... Lets crank it back to the FX days 135W+ and see how far it will go. lmao

 

I think simply the new efficiency they achieved can be put aside for better performance. liek the old days where a 100Mhz OC on a GPU costs 100WATTS. lmao Just a joke, but im okay with a new CPU as hot as my 8350 but buries it in the dirt.

[Jumper118]

lies. can only just do 5ghz on ss phase. 

[cj09beira]

21 hours ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

The concepts though. Superposition, atoms taking multiple pathways at once, sometimes you think they're just BSing for job security

look for pilot wave teory with is awesome, it explains everything while not using this weird superposition, not deterministic theories 

[Lord Nicoll]

14 hours ago, leadeater said:

 

@Lord Nicoll

Oh and power is extremely important, heat. Large scale cooling is complex so the difference between 10MW and 12MW could make or break planning wise.

Not really, super computers use KM not MW, sure 2MW is a massive jump, but currently we're on 15KW *for most*, add that a tolerance they always allow, because theory has to meet practicality halfway, and between 2KW isn't a deal breaker, not to mention that the IMB power8 chips can use 250 watts of power, far less efficient in a lot of work loads than Intel. There is a need for RISC supercomputers, we're a RISC one would be faster, and vice versa, ideally you'd have both at hand. 

[leadeater]

23 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Not really, super computers use KM not MW, sure 2MW is a massive jump, but currently we're on 15KW *for most*, add that a tolerance they always allow, because theory has to meet practicality halfway, and between 2KW isn't a deal breaker, not to mention that the IMB power8 chips can use 250 watts of power, far less efficient in a lot of work loads than Intel. There is a need for RISC supercomputers, we're a RISC one would be faster, and vice versa, ideally you'd have both at hand. 

Ahh 40 42U racks of servers uses more than 15KW of power. We have 2 160KVa UPS at work and we are a tiny spec compared to the big super computer clusters.

 

The current top 500 leader is 15,371KW, number 2 uses 17,808KW so we are well in to MW.

 

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Rank	Site	System	Cores	Rmax (TFlop/s)	Rpeak (TFlop/s)	Power (kW)
1	National Supercomputing Center in Wuxi China	Sunway TaihuLight - Sunway MPP, Sunway SW26010 260C 1.45GHz, Sunway  NRCPC	10,649,600	93,014.6	125,435.9	15,371

https://www.top500.org/lists/2016/06/

 

Edit:

Occurred to me just now that I was meaning rack and room cooling, think that was the confusion.

[Space Reptile]

20 hours ago, patrickjp93 said:

Bow before your new moderator (as of tomorrow).

no offence, but what makes you think you will get promoted mod ? 

[Lord Nicoll]

25 minutes ago, leadeater said:

Ahh 40 42U racks of servers uses more than 15KW of power. We have 2 160KVa UPS at work and we are a tiny spec compared to the big super computer clusters.

 

The current top 500 leader is 15,371KW, number 2 uses 17,808KW so we are well in to MW.

 

https://www.top500.org/lists/2016/06/

 

Edit:

Occurred to me just now that I was meaning rack and room cooling, think that was the confusion.

Those are the top 500, what do you respect? 15,371 KW isn't all that much in the scheme of things, There are loads of super computers that are in the kilowatt ranges. I don't think we'll see any seriously massive super computers until quantum computing become practical, and then jesus, imagine the power of a quantum computer arranged in a compute cluster? We really don't know if it will be i  the GigaWatts or KiloWatts, 

[patrickjp93]

14 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

no offence, but what makes you think you will get promoted mod ? 

It's a running joke.

 

4 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

Those are the top 500, what do you respect? 15,371 KW isn't all that much in the scheme of things, There are loads of super computers that are in the kilowatt ranges. I don't think we'll see any seriously massive super computers until quantum computing become practical, and then jesus, imagine the power of a quantum computer arranged in a compute cluster? We really don't know if it will be i  the GigaWatts or KiloWatts, 

15MW is enough to power all of shang hai. That's no joke.

[Lord Nicoll]

6 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

15MW is enough to power all of shang hai. That's no joke.

And that's just one city, Imagine a super computer cluster the size of Shanghai, you'd be looking at somewhere in the 2GW at least.

[Space Reptile]

6 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

It's a running joke.

i found you claiming that a delidded bristol being actually a sandy xeon  way more amusing 

 

but oh wait , those where "facts" not "jokes"

[patrickjp93]

1 minute ago, Lord Nicoll said:

And that's just one city, Imagine a super computer cluster the size of Shanghai, you'd be looking at somewhere in the 2GW at least.

The largest city in the world!

[patrickjp93]

Just now, Space Reptile said:

i found you claiming that a delidded bristol being actually a sandy xeon  way more amusing 

 

but oh wait , those where "facts" not "jokes"

Except it's not Bristol, it was purported to be SUMMIT, and it IS Sandy. But hey, FACTS.

[Lord Nicoll]

1 minute ago, patrickjp93 said:

The largest city in the world!

 

Only by population, it's a relatively average city taking all other factors into consideration. 

 

[Space Reptile]

10 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

15MW is enough to power all of shang hai. That's no joke.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon_E-126

so only 2~3 of those can power the  ENTIRETY of shang hai ?  

 

 

 

[Lord Nicoll]

2 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon_E-126

so only 2~3 of those can power the  ENTIRETY of shang hai ?  

 

 

 

*The list price of one unit is $14 million plus install costs *
Damn

[patrickjp93]

9 minutes ago, Space Reptile said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enercon_E-126

so only 2~3 of those can power the  ENTIRETY of shang hai ?  

 

 

 

That turbine produces that much power PER DAY. Tianhe-2 uses up that much power per second.

[Lord Nicoll]

2 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

That turbine produces that much power PER DAY. Tianhe-2 uses up that much power per second.

That's now how Watt-hours work

[Space Reptile]

2 minutes ago, patrickjp93 said:

That turbine produces that much power PER DAY. Tianhe-2 uses up that much power per second.

the electric engineer in me is commencing Sudoku 

[patrickjp93]

8 minutes ago, Lord Nicoll said:

That's now how Watt-hours work

Yes it is. I said so

[DELTAprime]

So I can't see anyone mentioning this in any earlier post so I will point out that according to NCIX Tech Tips, Canard PC clarified and the way they got the Ryzen sample to 5ghz was by disabling all but 1 core. A single core @ 5ghz isn't exactly what I'm looking for in a CPU.

 

 

[CDHoward]

Well, this post predictably triggered the increasingly bitter Intel fanboys.

 

Note how they do everything they can to negate Ryzen.

[Space Reptile]

3 minutes ago, CDHoward said:

Note how they do everything they can to negate Ryzen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kübler-Ross_model

 

you saw the same happening when FX came out and was beaten and later crushed by intel chips year for year